Does Alex Smith have any Trade Value???

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by BayArea:

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Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Why would KC trade a 2nd round pick, let alone sign Smith, after the debacle of signing another QB who was a product of a system in Cassel?

Cassel is garbage, Alex is not

Cassel got exposed when he didn't have a great team and system around him. He was 11-5 with the Pats

If Roman goes with Alex he will be fine

Which is a scenario that won't happen.

and why not? just because you think he sucks doesn't mean the rest of the league does

I never said I think he sucks. I don't see how Roman and Alex end up on the same team somewhere else is what I was saying. The only realistic situation where that happens is if Roman goes to another team and influences them to bring Alex along since he is familiar with him.

Originally posted by BayArea:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by BayArea:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Why would KC trade a 2nd round pick, let alone sign Smith, after the debacle of signing another QB who was a product of a system in Cassel?

Cassel is garbage, Alex is not

Cassel got exposed when he didn't have a great team and system around him. He was 11-5 with the Pats

If Roman goes with Alex he will be fine

Which is a scenario that won't happen.

and why not? just because you think he sucks doesn't mean the rest of the league does

I never said I think he sucks. I don't see how Roman and Alex end up on the same team somewhere else is what I was saying. The only realistic situation where that happens is if Roman goes to another team and influences them to bring Alex along since he is familiar with him.

that kind of stuff happens all the time

Originally posted by BayArea:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by BayArea:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Why would KC trade a 2nd round pick, let alone sign Smith, after the debacle of signing another QB who was a product of a system in Cassel?

Cassel is garbage, Alex is not

Cassel got exposed when he didn't have a great team and system around him. He was 11-5 with the Pats

If Roman goes with Alex he will be fine

Which is a scenario that won't happen.

and why not? just because you think he sucks doesn't mean the rest of the league does

I never said I think he sucks. I don't see how Roman and Alex end up on the same team somewhere else is what I was saying. The only realistic situation where that happens is if Roman goes to another team and influences them to bring Alex along since he is familiar with him.

christ

THAT"S THE POINT

I think he's more likely to be a FA. The Niners has to pick up the 6-8 mil option in April. Like the Kolb situation in the off-season. I don't see the FO picking that up if thing goes well with Kaep. Tolzien will be the #2.

Picking up the option, then try to trade him doesn't make sense to me.

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Why would KC trade a 2nd round pick, let alone sign Smith, after the debacle of signing another QB who was a product of a system in Cassel?

Cassel is garbage, Alex is not

Cassel got exposed when he didn't have a great team and system around him. He was 11-5 with the Pats

If Roman goes with Alex he will be fine

Package deal lol

Roman gets a HC gig he will push for Alex if he needs a QB.

So how does Smith have any trade value if his success hinges on so many "ifs"

It doesn't. The point is the best shot to trade him right out of the gates is if Roman leaves and needs a QB. Its a quick call and a quick move.

What you are saying makes sense, IF Roman gets a HC job, and IF they need a QB , and IF their GM agrees, and IF they want to gamble a 2nd round draft pick when recent non 1st round picks like Dalton, Kaep, and Wilson are producing at a salary below $600,000 in comparison to Alex's $8,000,000.

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by BayArea:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by BayArea:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Why would KC trade a 2nd round pick, let alone sign Smith, after the debacle of signing another QB who was a product of a system in Cassel?

Cassel is garbage, Alex is not

Cassel got exposed when he didn't have a great team and system around him. He was 11-5 with the Pats

If Roman goes with Alex he will be fine

Which is a scenario that won't happen.

and why not? just because you think he sucks doesn't mean the rest of the league does

I never said I think he sucks. I don't see how Roman and Alex end up on the same team somewhere else is what I was saying. The only realistic situation where that happens is if Roman goes to another team and influences them to bring Alex along since he is familiar with him.

christ

THAT"S THE POINT

Right and my point is the chances of that happening are slim.

Originally posted by BayArea:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by BayArea:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by BayArea:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Why would KC trade a 2nd round pick, let alone sign Smith, after the debacle of signing another QB who was a product of a system in Cassel?

Cassel is garbage, Alex is not

Cassel got exposed when he didn't have a great team and system around him. He was 11-5 with the Pats

If Roman goes with Alex he will be fine

Which is a scenario that won't happen.

and why not? just because you think he sucks doesn't mean the rest of the league does

I never said I think he sucks. I don't see how Roman and Alex end up on the same team somewhere else is what I was saying. The only realistic situation where that happens is if Roman goes to another team and influences them to bring Alex along since he is familiar with him.

christ

THAT"S THE POINT

Right and my point is the chances of that happening are slim.

not really

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

So how does Smith have any trade value if his success hinges on so many "ifs"

Perhaps the only ifs are a franchise with a reasonable amount of stability and a decent HC or OC. The Niners were a terribly run organization from the top down while Smith struggled.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
What you are saying makes sense, IF Roman gets a HC job, and IF they need a QB , and IF their GM agrees, and IF they want to gamble a 2nd round draft pick when recent non 1st round picks like Dalton, Kaep, and Wilson are producing at a salary below $600,000 in comparison to Alex's $8,000,000.

I think you can make the case though that it's better to trade for Alex then wait for him to become a free agent. Alex's contract is 2 years 18 mil in a trade but as a free agent who knows what it would be.

It only takes 2 clubs bidding for those years to rack up.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Why would KC trade a 2nd round pick, let alone sign Smith, after the debacle of signing another QB who was a product of a system in Cassel?

Cassel is garbage, Alex is not

Cassel got exposed when he didn't have a great team and system around him. He was 11-5 with the Pats

If Roman goes with Alex he will be fine

Package deal lol

Roman gets a HC gig he will push for Alex if he needs a QB.

So how does Smith have any trade value if his success hinges on so many "ifs"

It doesn't. The point is the best shot to trade him right out of the gates is if Roman leaves and needs a QB. Its a quick call and a quick move.

What you are saying makes sense, IF Roman gets a HC job, and IF they need a QB , and IF their GM agrees, and IF they want to gamble a 2nd round draft pick when recent non 1st round picks like Dalton, Kaep, and Wilson are producing at a salary below $600,000 in comparison to Alex's $8,000,000.

If Roman is going to be a HC chances are the team was crap and is looking for all new pieces. If Roman goes he will make sure he picks the QB and Alex makes the most sense for him. It may not be a 2nd, it could be a 3rd. Tebow went for a 4th and 6th plus cash.

Soooo.. Alex Smith has trade value as long as he has Jim Harbaugh's offensive coordinator is attached to his hip.


Makes perfect sense for Alex.

Originally posted by verb1der:
Soooo.. Alex Smith has trade value as long as he has Jim Harbaugh's offensive coordinator is attached to his hip.


Makes perfect sense for Alex.

nobody said that

The better move for Alex and the team is for Roman to take him because a trade can happen fast.

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by BayArea:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by BayArea:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by BayArea:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Why would KC trade a 2nd round pick, let alone sign Smith, after the debacle of signing another QB who was a product of a system in Cassel?

Cassel is garbage, Alex is not

Cassel got exposed when he didn't have a great team and system around him. He was 11-5 with the Pats

If Roman goes with Alex he will be fine

Which is a scenario that won't happen.

and why not? just because you think he sucks doesn't mean the rest of the league does

I never said I think he sucks. I don't see how Roman and Alex end up on the same team somewhere else is what I was saying. The only realistic situation where that happens is if Roman goes to another team and influences them to bring Alex along since he is familiar with him.

christ

THAT"S THE POINT

Right and my point is the chances of that happening are slim.

not really

In all likely hood Alex will leave this team and go somewhere else before Roman does so it wouldn't be Roman leaving and Alex following. Let's say Alex ends the season as the backup QB. Now if we want to keep him his contract has us forking over 7mil. I can't see us paying out that cash for a backup.

Now if we don't win the superbowl I definitely see Roman staying here for another shot at getting one. If we do win the superbowl then maybe it is more likely he leaves for somewhere else but I still don't see it happening. Leaving success like that in a setup he is comfortable with for a desperate team. I just don't see it.

What I do see is Roman here next year and Alex somewhere else.

Lots of instances where coaches take players from their former team with them to the next gig, including qb. And if he goes to a team that needs good qb play, that already understands his system. It's an added bonus for lesser work involved.

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by verb1der:
Soooo.. Alex Smith has trade value as long as he has Jim Harbaugh's offensive coordinator is attached to his hip.


Makes perfect sense for Alex.

nobody said that

The better move for Alex and the team is for Roman to take him because a trade can happen fast.

Better move for the team is for both Roman AND Alex to leave together!? ...are you serious Jreff or are you just having fun stirring the pot?