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Does Alex Smith have any Trade Value???

Originally posted by BayArea:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Why would KC trade a 2nd round pick, let alone sign Smith, after the debacle of signing another QB who was a product of a system in Cassel?

Cassel is garbage, Alex is not

Cassel got exposed when he didn't have a great team and system around him. He was 11-5 with the Pats

If Roman goes with Alex he will be fine

Which is a scenario that won't happen.
and why not? just because you think he sucks doesn't mean the rest of the league does
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
So how does Smith have any trade value if his success hinges on so many "ifs"

/thread

Hate much?
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Why would KC trade a 2nd round pick, let alone sign Smith, after the debacle of signing another QB who was a product of a system in Cassel?

Cassel is garbage, Alex is not

Cassel got exposed when he didn't have a great team and system around him. He was 11-5 with the Pats

If Roman goes with Alex he will be fine

Package deal lol
Roman gets a HC gig he will push for Alex if he needs a QB.

So how does Smith have any trade value if his success hinges on so many "ifs"
It doesn't. The point is the best shot to trade him right out of the gates is if Roman leaves and needs a QB. Its a quick call and a quick move.
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Why would KC trade a 2nd round pick, let alone sign Smith, after the debacle of signing another QB who was a product of a system in Cassel?

Cassel is garbage, Alex is not

Cassel got exposed when he didn't have a great team and system around him. He was 11-5 with the Pats

If Roman goes with Alex he will be fine

Package deal lol
Roman gets a HC gig he will push for Alex if he needs a QB.

So how does Smith have any trade value if his success hinges on so many "ifs"

what if?

If he can play well anywhere but here. If he needs to have the best situation surrounding him to play well. If he has any potential to get better or has hit the roof. If he is really all that better than the so so QBs teams are starting now. Those would be my first questions.
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
So how does Smith have any trade value if his success hinges on so many "ifs"

/thread

Hate much?

It's not hate man, Blizz made a perfectly good point that answers the question of this thread. "roman becoming a HC and then taking Alex with him"....Those are huge IFs!
[ Edited by verb1der on Nov 29, 2012 at 3:53 PM ]
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by BayArea:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Why would KC trade a 2nd round pick, let alone sign Smith, after the debacle of signing another QB who was a product of a system in Cassel?

Cassel is garbage, Alex is not

Cassel got exposed when he didn't have a great team and system around him. He was 11-5 with the Pats

If Roman goes with Alex he will be fine

Which is a scenario that won't happen.
and why not? just because you think he sucks doesn't mean the rest of the league does

I never said I think he sucks. I don't see how Roman and Alex end up on the same team somewhere else is what I was saying. The only realistic situation where that happens is if Roman goes to another team and influences them to bring Alex along since he is familiar with him.
Originally posted by BayArea:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by BayArea:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Why would KC trade a 2nd round pick, let alone sign Smith, after the debacle of signing another QB who was a product of a system in Cassel?

Cassel is garbage, Alex is not

Cassel got exposed when he didn't have a great team and system around him. He was 11-5 with the Pats

If Roman goes with Alex he will be fine

Which is a scenario that won't happen.
and why not? just because you think he sucks doesn't mean the rest of the league does

I never said I think he sucks. I don't see how Roman and Alex end up on the same team somewhere else is what I was saying. The only realistic situation where that happens is if Roman goes to another team and influences them to bring Alex along since he is familiar with him.

that kind of stuff happens all the time
Originally posted by BayArea:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by BayArea:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Why would KC trade a 2nd round pick, let alone sign Smith, after the debacle of signing another QB who was a product of a system in Cassel?

Cassel is garbage, Alex is not

Cassel got exposed when he didn't have a great team and system around him. He was 11-5 with the Pats

If Roman goes with Alex he will be fine

Which is a scenario that won't happen.
and why not? just because you think he sucks doesn't mean the rest of the league does

I never said I think he sucks. I don't see how Roman and Alex end up on the same team somewhere else is what I was saying. The only realistic situation where that happens is if Roman goes to another team and influences them to bring Alex along since he is familiar with him.
christ

THAT"S THE POINT
I think he's more likely to be a FA. The Niners has to pick up the 6-8 mil option in April. Like the Kolb situation in the off-season. I don't see the FO picking that up if thing goes well with Kaep. Tolzien will be the #2.

Picking up the option, then try to trade him doesn't make sense to me.
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Why would KC trade a 2nd round pick, let alone sign Smith, after the debacle of signing another QB who was a product of a system in Cassel?

Cassel is garbage, Alex is not

Cassel got exposed when he didn't have a great team and system around him. He was 11-5 with the Pats

If Roman goes with Alex he will be fine

Package deal lol
Roman gets a HC gig he will push for Alex if he needs a QB.

So how does Smith have any trade value if his success hinges on so many "ifs"
It doesn't. The point is the best shot to trade him right out of the gates is if Roman leaves and needs a QB. Its a quick call and a quick move.

What you are saying makes sense, IF Roman gets a HC job, and IF they need a QB , and IF their GM agrees, and IF they want to gamble a 2nd round draft pick when recent non 1st round picks like Dalton, Kaep, and Wilson are producing at a salary below $600,000 in comparison to Alex's $8,000,000.
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by BayArea:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by BayArea:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Why would KC trade a 2nd round pick, let alone sign Smith, after the debacle of signing another QB who was a product of a system in Cassel?

Cassel is garbage, Alex is not

Cassel got exposed when he didn't have a great team and system around him. He was 11-5 with the Pats

If Roman goes with Alex he will be fine

Which is a scenario that won't happen.
and why not? just because you think he sucks doesn't mean the rest of the league does

I never said I think he sucks. I don't see how Roman and Alex end up on the same team somewhere else is what I was saying. The only realistic situation where that happens is if Roman goes to another team and influences them to bring Alex along since he is familiar with him.
christ

THAT"S THE POINT

Right and my point is the chances of that happening are slim.
Originally posted by BayArea:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by BayArea:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by BayArea:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Why would KC trade a 2nd round pick, let alone sign Smith, after the debacle of signing another QB who was a product of a system in Cassel?

Cassel is garbage, Alex is not

Cassel got exposed when he didn't have a great team and system around him. He was 11-5 with the Pats

If Roman goes with Alex he will be fine

Which is a scenario that won't happen.
and why not? just because you think he sucks doesn't mean the rest of the league does

I never said I think he sucks. I don't see how Roman and Alex end up on the same team somewhere else is what I was saying. The only realistic situation where that happens is if Roman goes to another team and influences them to bring Alex along since he is familiar with him.
christ

THAT"S THE POINT

Right and my point is the chances of that happening are slim.

not really
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
So how does Smith have any trade value if his success hinges on so many "ifs"

Perhaps the only ifs are a franchise with a reasonable amount of stability and a decent HC or OC. The Niners were a terribly run organization from the top down while Smith struggled.
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
What you are saying makes sense, IF Roman gets a HC job, and IF they need a QB , and IF their GM agrees, and IF they want to gamble a 2nd round draft pick when recent non 1st round picks like Dalton, Kaep, and Wilson are producing at a salary below $600,000 in comparison to Alex's $8,000,000.

I think you can make the case though that it's better to trade for Alex then wait for him to become a free agent. Alex's contract is 2 years 18 mil in a trade but as a free agent who knows what it would be.

It only takes 2 clubs bidding for those years to rack up.
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Why would KC trade a 2nd round pick, let alone sign Smith, after the debacle of signing another QB who was a product of a system in Cassel?

Cassel is garbage, Alex is not

Cassel got exposed when he didn't have a great team and system around him. He was 11-5 with the Pats

If Roman goes with Alex he will be fine

Package deal lol
Roman gets a HC gig he will push for Alex if he needs a QB.

So how does Smith have any trade value if his success hinges on so many "ifs"
It doesn't. The point is the best shot to trade him right out of the gates is if Roman leaves and needs a QB. Its a quick call and a quick move.

What you are saying makes sense, IF Roman gets a HC job, and IF they need a QB , and IF their GM agrees, and IF they want to gamble a 2nd round draft pick when recent non 1st round picks like Dalton, Kaep, and Wilson are producing at a salary below $600,000 in comparison to Alex's $8,000,000.
If Roman is going to be a HC chances are the team was crap and is looking for all new pieces. If Roman goes he will make sure he picks the QB and Alex makes the most sense for him. It may not be a 2nd, it could be a 3rd. Tebow went for a 4th and 6th plus cash.