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Does Alex Smith have any Trade Value???

Originally posted by nj9er:
Trade him to Jets for Revis and a third.


How about Rex throwing in his wife to give us all foot massages to clinch the deal?
Originally posted by ginseng1000:
what do you think we can get for Kaepernick???

A 2nd rounder?


Why on earth would they trade Kaep? Because they have Smith? Kaep is:
a) this year has proven and the years before, you can never have enough good players you are just one hit away. Tolzein-unproven, I like the kid but pre games against 3-4 stringers is hardly a clue to his talent. If he was so good and better, then he would have been in the game instead of Kaep.
b) younger, Alex has seven years working on eight
c) although he is younger, he is only on the second floor of his ceiling, look at how much he has shown despite coming from a non traditional offense. You got coaches and ex coaches raving about him now.
d) though not as experienced as AS, by his forth year he will at the very least be on AS (exp. wise) level if not surpased it. Where as AS is a good decent QB, but has reached his ceiling, if he has not, we are talking inches to a foot at the most, not yards. AS cannot equal Kaep's legs or canon of an arm. In fact it is only going to go down as he ages.
e) Alex can move the team when he needs to, but Kaep could move the team down the field faster than Alex, when he needs to, he can lead long time consuming drives like in the saints game.
My good friend who is a huge Vikings fan is hoping that the Vikes can get Alex in the offseason.
Originally posted by mug0mug:
My good friend who is a huge Vikings fan is hoping that the Vikes can get Alex in the offseason.

And believe it or not (since many of you hate him), a lot of teams and fans would love to have him. The only thing holding him back from having terrific trade value is his fairly high price tag. If he would agree to re-negotiate as a term of a trade, he'd be highly sought after.
Originally posted by dj43:
1. Baalke will pay him at least what he is getting now to keep him as a back up until CK has thoroughly proven he is reliable against multiple opponents. Note: Bears. Steelers. Others.

2. Right now 20+ plus teams would pay Smith starting money to play for them, hence they are likely to give up a 2nd round pick to get him if he is signed.

I don't see Smith leaving except by trade.

Really, then why didn't they do it when he was a free agent last year? You might get teams wanting him now when there are a lot of teams hurting because their QB is hurt like Pittsburgh or others, but come start of the off season, with FA and the draft, it is different. Also depends on who else is available. You also need to realize what is their game plan and does AS fit into their style of play. AS does not fit the packers, patriots or saints style. He would fit the Jets or any other team that has a strong running game and strong D. Like Pitt and the Ravens or even Texans, but these teams have their QBs. Their maybe others, that could use him, but they maybe riding on players they already have, Like the Vikings, Bengals and others like them where they have a young gun they intend to develope for the next 2-3 years.

Trade maybe a 3rd or 4th, depends, if Roman leaves for a HC job, he will get AS and draft someone to develope. Other teams might try and wait cause the niners may end up cutting him so that they can resign a player(s) like Dashon maybe before the draft starts or their other FA. If they trade it is because they don't want to bid for him with others. Perception is a key and others perception of AS is that he is a good decent QB, but not a superstar, you still have to sell what you are doing to the fan base you are working for which is fickle. Plus, the question will be, if he is so good the other GM wants to know why are you trading him?
Originally posted by mug0mug:
Originally posted by mug0mug:
My good friend who is a huge Vikings fan is hoping that the Vikes can get Alex in the offseason.

And believe it or not (since many of you hate him), a lot of teams and fans would love to have him. The only thing holding him back from having terrific trade value is his fairly high price tag. If he would agree to re-negotiate as a term of a trade, he'd be highly sought after.


The Viking's are going to stick with Ponder for a few more years at least. As we all know, some quarterbacks take a few years to develop.
Originally posted by mug0mug:
And believe it or not (since many of you hate him), a lot of teams and fans would love to have him. The only thing holding him back from having terrific trade value is his fairly high price tag. If he would agree to re-negotiate as a term of a trade, he'd be highly sought after.

That is a key point, but if he is willing to come down, the niners would be willing to keep him although AS might not want to stay if he is not #1. If he goes to another team, he also is going to want decent money and to start. Can he check his ego and start over again-maybe, but that is the key.

Originally posted by mug0mug:
My good friend who is a huge Vikings fan is hoping that the Vikes can get Alex in the offseason.

Thats your friend, how does the whole fan base feel and what is the plan of the front office? I don't see them giving up on ponder just yet.
  • mayo49
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Originally posted by mug0mug:
Originally posted by mug0mug:
My good friend who is a huge Vikings fan is hoping that the Vikes can get Alex in the offseason.

And believe it or not (since many of you hate him), a lot of teams and fans would love to have him. The only thing holding him back from having terrific trade value is his fairly high price tag. If he would agree to re-negotiate as a term of a trade, he'd be highly sought after.


What's his fairly high price tag? $8M per year for a starting QB is not high. I see it the other way, I see his price as a bargain and it should favor us getting some descent compensation.
Originally posted by 49erfaithful49:
Alex Smith is better than

Romo
Rivers
Weeden
Palmer
Cassel
Ponder
Bradford
Sanchez
Fitzy
kolb/skelton
whoever Tennessee is starting
The eagles could use a QB


No way is Alex better than any of those guys on that list. Remember Alex was a complete flop until Harbaugh arrived. Imagine a Sam Bradford on the 9ers with all our WR & VD and Running weapons and that lethal Defense?
Alex was a free agent last year and basically generated zero interest from other teams. The teams with dire need for QB's will have high draft picks and can start developing a rookie, instead of paying big for a 8 year veteran.
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Originally posted by 49erLegacy:
Alex was a free agent last year and basically generated zero interest from other teams. The teams with dire need for QB's will have high draft picks and can start developing a rookie, instead of paying big for a 8 year veteran.


Alex is only 28. He's in his prime.
If we do trade him it wont be until after the season and for a low pick (5th or 6th). No one will give a high pick for a guy they know will be released. They may give a low pick so they can secure him, but the teams in real QB jeopardy will have high picks in the draft and would most likely draft a QB in 1st or 2nd. I like Alex and think he is a good QB, but he needs talent around him.
Problem with thinking that we can get a lot for Smith, is teams know he doesnt come as a package with Harbaugh!!!!!!!

No one wanted him when he was FREE last offseason when we were trying to talk Manning to come here.

And the reason he came here was Bc we would pay him the most (over the dolphins IF they offered him $)
Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Originally posted by 49erfaithful49:
Alex Smith is better than

Romo
Rivers
Weeden
Palmer
Cassel
Ponder
Bradford
Sanchez
Fitzy
kolb/skelton
whoever Tennessee is starting
The eagles could use a QB


No way is Alex better than any of those guys on that list. Remember Alex was a complete flop until Harbaugh arrived. Imagine a Sam Bradford on the 9ers with all our WR & VD and Running weapons and that lethal Defense?

He wasn't a flop before Harbaugh arrived. But the player being assessed is today's Alex Smith. And if you think all of those guys on that list are better than him, you are either eaten up with hate or you aren't a 49ers fan
Originally posted by mug0mug:
Originally posted by mug0mug:
My good friend who is a huge Vikings fan is hoping that the Vikes can get Alex in the offseason.

And believe it or not (since many of you hate him), a lot of teams and fans would love to have him. The only thing holding him back from having terrific trade value is his fairly high price tag. If he would agree to re-negotiate as a term of a trade, he'd be highly sought after.

So basically teams only want him if they pay him "back up" money, but he is a top 5 QB?
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