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Does Alex Smith have any Trade Value???
Nov 27, 2012 at 6:23 PM
- cashmahne
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Alex will be cut in March. So the answer is no. He has no trade value.
Nov 27, 2012 at 6:24 PM
- gold49digger
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Originally posted by nj9er:
Trade him to Jets for Revis and a third. Actually if he is benched our Super Bowl expectations need to be hampered Smith has a season and a half of consistent solid play and playoff experience. Kaepernick is a young player with only 2 starts under his belt. He is entitled and bound to have a few down games. Do we want one of those games to come against Green Bay, Seattle or the Giants in the playoffs?
Thats what im afraid of. Kap has loads of potential but this is a win now team and if he feels rattled in the playoffs we are screwed.
Nov 27, 2012 at 6:29 PM
- kingairta
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He can't be traded this season. So be can't demand a trade. The trade deadline has passed.
Nov 27, 2012 at 6:30 PM
- BayArea
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Originally posted by nj9er:
Trade him to Jets for Revis and a third. Actually if he is benched our Super Bowl expectations need to be hampered Smith has a season and a half of consistent solid play and playoff experience. Kaepernick is a young player with only 2 starts under his belt. He is entitled and bound to have a few down games. Do we want one of those games to come against Green Bay, Seattle or the Giants in the playoffs?
They can keep the draft pick I would take that trade straight up.
Nov 27, 2012 at 6:33 PM
- buck
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Originally posted by nj9er:
Trade him to Jets for Revis and a third. Actually if he is benched our Super Bowl expectations need to be hampered Smith has a season and a half of consistent solid play and playoff experience. Kaepernick is a young player with only 2 starts under his belt. He is entitled and bound to have a few down games. Do we want one of those games to come against Green Bay, Seattle or the Giants in the playoffs?
I like Alex. I would not trade him to that madhouse.
Nov 27, 2012 at 6:35 PM
- Kolohe
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I would say teams would be willing to trade for Alex for a 5th or 6th round pick. But in reality, I don't think he'll be traded period.
Nov 27, 2012 at 6:37 PM
- BayArea
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Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by nj9er:
Trade him to Jets for Revis and a third. Actually if he is benched our Super Bowl expectations need to be hampered Smith has a season and a half of consistent solid play and playoff experience. Kaepernick is a young player with only 2 starts under his belt. He is entitled and bound to have a few down games. Do we want one of those games to come against Green Bay, Seattle or the Giants in the playoffs?
I like Alex. I would not trade him to that madhouse.
Why not add another distraction to that circus? Just imagine the camera shots of Tebow, Sanchez, Alex, all on the sidelines frowning watching the travesty on the field. lol...
Nov 27, 2012 at 6:51 PM
- nj9er
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Originally posted by buck:I like Alex. I would not trade him to that madhouse.
Originally posted by BayArea:Why not add another distraction to that circus? Just imagine the camera shots of Tebow, Sanchez, Alex, all on the sidelines frowning watching the travesty on the field. lol...
Jets need to clean house but I think are too stubborn to do so otherwose Tebow would have sarted week 8. Henne makes Gabbert look like a giant bust even Henne has better chemistry with Blackmon and they have new owner. KC makes sense since that's where we exile all our QBs.
Nov 27, 2012 at 6:59 PM
- BayArea
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Originally posted by nj9er:
Originally posted by buck:
I like Alex. I would not trade him to that madhouse.
Originally posted by BayArea:
Why not add another distraction to that circus? Just imagine the camera shots of Tebow, Sanchez, Alex, all on the sidelines frowning watching the travesty on the field. lol...
Jets need to clean house but I think are too stubborn to do so otherwose Tebow would have sarted week 8. Henne makes Gabbert look like a giant bust even Henne has better chemistry with Blackmon and they have new owner. KC makes sense since that's where we exile all our QBs.
Even if I dig deep for my best arm chair coaching talent I can't even begin to understand what the Jets need. Like the Cowboys they are bad from the field all the way up to the owner. Cleaning house is an understatement. I wouldn't have said it 2-3 years ago but the longer Rex Ryan is in control the deeper they will plummet. Bet anything he is their coach for the next 3 years though and Sanchez will be their QB just as long.
Nov 27, 2012 at 7:17 PM
- nj9er
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Originally posted by BayArea:Even if I dig deep for my best arm chair coaching talent I can't even begin to understand what the Jets need. Like the Cowboys they are bad from the field all the way up to the owner. Cleaning house is an understatement. I wouldn't have said it 2-3 years ago but the longer Rex Ryan is in control the deeper they will plummet. Bet anything he is their coach for the next 3 years though and Sanchez will be their QB just as long.
Being from Nj I can tell you what is wrong with the Jets. They dumped a lot of older quality veteran players with a bad plan B. Damien Woody, Vilma, Faneca, Thomas Jones, Leon Washington, etc, and replaced it with talented egotistical selfish players like Cromartie and Holmes. I think Rex watched the longest yard too many times. Similar to what we did after 2002 only we didn't have any egos just 3rd tier players. Heart for Barlow (jones/green),, TO for Lloyd( S. Moss /holmes)Garcia with Rattay (Farve/Sanchez)
Nov 27, 2012 at 7:25 PM
- boomer49er
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by boomer49er:
Alex is a top 10 qb imo, but because of the situation we would have little leverage so his value is rock bottom. Teams know we cant keep him next year if CK is the starter so they might offer a 5th for him but they know t hey could wait for us to cut him so likely we woildnt even get that. CK right now would fetch a 1st rounder because of the hype and his low contract number means we could hold onto him even if he wasnt starting.
Assuming both QBs continue at the level they have been we cant lose. We either clear a lot of cap room or get a high pick.
So it's ok for smith to start and CK to sit for the same money next year , but it's not ok if it's vice versa?
It's not the same money. Smith is set to make something near $10 mil next year, Kap is on his rookie deal and would make significantly less, more in like with what would be acceptable to pay a backup. Smith makes far too much money to not have on the field.
Nov 27, 2012 at 7:31 PM
- BayArea
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Originally posted by nj9er:
Originally posted by BayArea:
Even if I dig deep for my best arm chair coaching talent I can't even begin to understand what the Jets need. Like the Cowboys they are bad from the field all the way up to the owner. Cleaning house is an understatement. I wouldn't have said it 2-3 years ago but the longer Rex Ryan is in control the deeper they will plummet. Bet anything he is their coach for the next 3 years though and Sanchez will be their QB just as long.
Being from Nj I can tell you what is wrong with the Jets. They dumped a lot of older quality veteran players with a bad plan B. Damien Woody, Vilma, Faneca, Thomas Jones, Leon Washington, etc, and replaced it with talented egotistical selfish players like Cromartie and Holmes. I think Rex watched the longest yard too many times. Similar to what we did after 2002 only we didn't have any egos just 3rd tier players. Heart for Barlow (jones/green),, TO for Lloyd( S. Moss /holmes)Garcia with Rattay (Farve/Sanchez)
All they need to rebound like us is ... find an elite Coach/GM combo making sure your coach is notorious for molding QBs. Get a franchise best running back, get some defensive talent other than Revis, and a league leading tight end. Then just a few other odds and ends and your good. Sounds simple enough...lol
Nov 27, 2012 at 8:24 PM
- JD9671
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Yes . I say a 3rd rounder.C.K. is doing great! Alexs is doing great it hurts but C.K. allday....
Nov 27, 2012 at 8:25 PM
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]1. Baalke will pay him at least what he is getting now to keep him as a back up until CK has thoroughly proven he is reliable against multiple opponents. Note: Bears. Steelers. Others.
2. Right now 20+ plus teams would pay Smith starting money to play for them, hence they are likely to give up a 2nd round pick to get him if he is signed.
I don't see Smith leaving except by trade.
If Kap is named the starter, there is no way AS is around next year. This would mean SF would have to pick up his 7.5mm salary. The deadline for that is April 1. And AS can be the starter in multiple places, so why would he stay? Yes, he's been committed and fair to SF, but under completely different circumstances e.g. Something to prove.
To be honest, I hope we roll with AS. Proven he can run JHs offense, team guy, first class and is hitting his stride. Lets remember he's only 28 too boot. Not enough on CK to supplant AS as the starter for a team that was a botched punt away from the SB.
2. Right now 20+ plus teams would pay Smith starting money to play for them, hence they are likely to give up a 2nd round pick to get him if he is signed.
I don't see Smith leaving except by trade.
If Kap is named the starter, there is no way AS is around next year. This would mean SF would have to pick up his 7.5mm salary. The deadline for that is April 1. And AS can be the starter in multiple places, so why would he stay? Yes, he's been committed and fair to SF, but under completely different circumstances e.g. Something to prove.
To be honest, I hope we roll with AS. Proven he can run JHs offense, team guy, first class and is hitting his stride. Lets remember he's only 28 too boot. Not enough on CK to supplant AS as the starter for a team that was a botched punt away from the SB.
Nov 27, 2012 at 8:27 PM
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Roman & Smith to KC, package deal.