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Does Alex Smith have any Trade Value???

Originally posted by BayArea:
Maybe the only real question would be can he succeed in a different system?

He would be a solid backup for any team not in need of a turn key starting QB for sure.

What would really suck for him is to go to a team like the Jets. Teams like that where the coaching staff has no idea what they are doing and makes desperate moves. Probably look at Alex's successful couple of seasons and expect that level of play without taking into account everything that was in place for him here.

I could see trade value I just don't see us trying to get a trade for him in the first place. They would likely let him walk and he could see what he gets as a free agent. We aren't really desperate for players or draft picks here and what we would get for him would likely be a waste.

Smith showed decent command of the Turner system in 2006, and showed fast adaptation to Harbaugh system. I think he'll be fine as long as he goes to a team with a head coach who has a clue about the offense.
We may need him. I would pay the 8 million. It's only what 10 million for two probowl QBs. If a trade could be worked Alex probably would be a 3rd at best.
KC would not trade for Alex. They will not trade a high second for Smith if they ignored him in free agency. I wonder AB if we refuse to pay the bonus if he counts as a free-agent or a cut. That way we may receive compensation. 8 million in free-agency could land us a quality starter at another position.
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
People are also failing to realize that these so called teams that need a QB (which is really like 5 teams MAX), could use the draft as a way to get a QB.

There is nothing to prevent them from drafting a QB and signing Smith. Is Geno Smith or Matt Barkley worth a high 1st round pick? The jury is out.
I wouldn't want to invest big picks on those guys. Someone will over draft one. Geno Smith has potential but he just looks small to me. Barkley is a 3rd round guy at best. Totally exposed this year. He should have jumped last year. He's gonna get Taylor May'sd,
Please. This guy has no trade value. Anyone who wants him just has to wait until March when you are forced to cut him or pay MILLIONS of dollars. Suckers.
[ Edited by HornedHell on Nov 27, 2012 at 5:27 PM ]
Originally posted by Mercuryspeed:
This and we can close the thread. Maybe not Bradford potentially. Let's not just put him in a Raiders Jersey yet fellas I want him to retire a Niner

I think the Rams will stick with Bradford for at least one more year. After all they already paid him the bulk of the money of his huge contract.
Originally posted by JustaFan45:
Originally posted by Ruhl:
If we don't retain Alex, we'll be playing him twice a year. You can take that to the bank.
After seeing our defense against Brees and Rodgers who cares!

But it'd be scary if Smith joins the Cardinals and manages to find real rapport with Fitzgerald. He has learned a lesson with the 49ers. Stats don't mean anything until it means everything. He might have lost his job because he truly believed in the first part.
Originally posted by LBSI9ers:
KC would not trade for Alex. They will not trade a high second for Smith if they ignored him in free agency. I wonder AB if we refuse to pay the bonus if he counts as a free-agent or a cut. That way we may receive compensation. 8 million in free-agency could land us a quality starter at another position.

He would be considered a cut. We would give up the rights to him. Similar to what a team would do to a RFA if they withdrew their offer, he is a UFA and we wouldn't get anything for him comp pick wise.

It will be tough, maybe the 49ers and Alex agree to move back the roster bonus, so he can choose the team, if not than he is cut.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by LBSI9ers:
KC would not trade for Alex. They will not trade a high second for Smith if they ignored him in free agency. I wonder AB if we refuse to pay the bonus if he counts as a free-agent or a cut. That way we may receive compensation. 8 million in free-agency could land us a quality starter at another position.

He would be considered a cut. We would give up the rights to him. Similar to what a team would do to a RFA if they withdrew their offer, he is a UFA and we wouldn't get anything for him comp pick wise.

It will be tough, maybe the 49ers and Alex agree to move back the roster bonus, so he can choose the team, if not than he is cut.


yea what i was thinking.
Originally posted by fastforward:
Originally posted by JustaFan45:
Originally posted by Ruhl:
If we don't retain Alex, we'll be playing him twice a year. You can take that to the bank.
After seeing our defense against Brees and Rodgers who cares!

But it'd be scary if Smith joins the Cardinals and manages to find real rapport with Fitzgerald. He has learned a lesson with the 49ers. Stats don't mean anything until it means everything. He might have lost his job because he truly believed in the first part.


yea in arizona he would be great.
I see a lot of people saying Alex has no value because all these bad teams can draft " a guy " early. Who is this "a guy" and how many teams can he play for...because I see no early first round worthy QB's comings out, much less multiple.
[ Edited by PhillyNiner on Nov 27, 2012 at 5:39 PM ]
Originally posted by HornedHell:
Please. This guy has no trade value. Anyone who wants him just has to wait until March when you are forced to cut him or pay MILLIONS of dollars. Suckers.

There is always value in getting a guy before he hits the market if there is more than one suitor...
Originally posted by fastforward:
Originally posted by BayArea:
Maybe the only real question would be can he succeed in a different system?

He would be a solid backup for any team not in need of a turn key starting QB for sure.

What would really suck for him is to go to a team like the Jets. Teams like that where the coaching staff has no idea what they are doing and makes desperate moves. Probably look at Alex's successful couple of seasons and expect that level of play without taking into account everything that was in place for him here.

I could see trade value I just don't see us trying to get a trade for him in the first place. They would likely let him walk and he could see what he gets as a free agent. We aren't really desperate for players or draft picks here and what we would get for him would likely be a waste.

Smith showed decent command of the Turner system in 2006, and showed fast adaptation to Harbaugh system. I think he'll be fine as long as he goes to a team with a head coach who has a clue about the offense.

I am not disagreeing with you here. Just saying those would be my honest concerns. He doesn't have the best track record of adapting to new systems even if they were bad ones and different every year. Likely trade scenario would be Alex going to a team down on their luck probably not a good system to start with and safe to say not nearly as talented cast around him. Any QB in that situation would up a creek without a paddle in my opinion.
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Originally posted by LBSI9ers:
We may need him. I would pay the 8 million. It's only what 10 million for two probowl QBs. If a trade could be worked Alex probably would be a 3rd at best.

Alex's contract was structured the way it was to give the 49ers that ability to renegotiate Kaepernicks contract in year 3 (next year). They also retained the option for Alex if Kaepernick did not develop as expected. The 49ers do not want to go into the final year of Kaepernick's contract without renegotiating and extending it, if he developed as expected.