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Week 12: Thoughts after rewatching the game...

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
That's a damn great point. We can't count on Akers bailing us out of a bad red-zone series, so being conservative in our play-calling and execution isn't going to work as well. We'll need to take more chances, be a little more daring and willing to throw in to the end zone more as opposed to checking down and settling for a FG attempt.

We don't throw in the RZ...only run

We need to contact Roman, stat!
Great write up Marvin49! Was a great game to watch and can't wait to see this team improve and only get better as the season comes to an end. Will be in St. Louis to watch them live next Sunday! Go Niners!
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Marvin for MVP=most valuable poster.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
That's a damn great point. We can't count on Akers bailing us out of a bad red-zone series, so being conservative in our play-calling and execution isn't going to work as well. We'll need to take more chances, be a little more daring and willing to throw in to the end zone more as opposed to checking down and settling for a FG attempt.

We don't throw in the RZ...only run

We need to contact Roman, stat!

Uh...all three of Kaeps passing TD's were in the redzone. They have been throwing quite often from there...and scoring TDs on first down.
Nice read, good post, one thing I've noticed is the number os sacks Kap takes, as opposed to Alex. Kap seems to have a better sense of when to slide, or move away from pressure. In his first two starts he faced two very different styles of defense, the Bears rush 4 and cover, mixing in a few well disguised blitzes, and the Saints seem to blitz almost every down in just about every direction, and Kap handled it well, and as I recall took very few...any sacks. Alex as brutally efficient, and consistent seems to swallow the ball and take the sack when he deems it safest, Kap keeps the play alive and keeps fighting.

It sucks when you have two very good QBs!
would the Niners trade Alex Smith in the offseason? I remember Jimmy Johnson drafting two QB's--Aikman and I forget the other QB's name--but he was traded eventually and that kept Dallas well stocked with good players in their last SB era.
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Nice read, good post, one thing I've noticed is the number os sacks Kap takes, as opposed to Alex. Kap seems to have a better sense of when to slide, or move away from pressure. In his first two starts he faced two very different styles of defense, the Bears rush 4 and cover, mixing in a few well disguised blitzes, and the Saints seem to blitz almost every down in just about every direction, and Kap handled it well, and as I recall took very few...any sacks. Alex as brutally efficient, and consistent seems to swallow the ball and take the sack when he deems it safest, Kap keeps the play alive and keeps fighting.

It sucks when you have two very good QBs!

That just reminds me of something I keep reading that drives me nuts. This isn't targetted at you...

...but everytime I read that the Bears played "vanilla" against the 49ers and thats why he had success...I want to freakin' scream. Of course they played vanilla. They play vanilla in EVERY game and still beat the crap out of people. Thats simply what the Bears do and what they have been doing to have one of the best D's in the league.

Its not like they said..."ya know what? This kids a rook...lets simplify it for him!". No. They did what has worked against almost every other team they have played...and it didn't work.
Hey Marvin.

I don't comment here much obviously, but I like hearing your thoughts after each game. I know you are going to stop doing the Alex Smith stats tracker since 2010 (which btw was awesome) if Kaep earns the job, but if you don't mind, can I make a suggestion.

Before I do, I would like to say that if Kaep does win the job, I will feel really bad for Smith. I have always liked him and always thought he was a product of a failed organization rather than a bad football player, while still recognizing his inefficiencies. I honestly have a ton of respect for him and I'm not sure I wanted to see another football player succeed more than him after everything he went through and how he's handled it.

However, again assuming Kaep remains the starter (not announced yet) could you consider posting stats like our 3rd down percentage, 20+ yard pass plays, along with TD/throw(running and throwing) and INT/throw rates are compared to with Alex Smith. I think it would be great to see how Kaep compares to Alex if he does win he job. I'm not saying the one specifically I wrote, but obvsiouly looking at the differences between the two and whether or not Kaep can bring that more dynamic play to the team while minimizing the mistakes.

Thanks!
Originally posted by elhebrewhammer:
Hey Marvin.

I don't comment here much obviously, but I like hearing your thoughts after each game. I know you are going to stop doing the Alex Smith stats tracker since 2010 (which btw was awesome) if Kaep earns the job, but if you don't mind, can I make a suggestion.

Before I do, I would like to say that if Kaep does win the job, I will feel really bad for Smith. I have always liked him and always thought he was a product of a failed organization rather than a bad football player, while still recognizing his inefficiencies. I honestly have a ton of respect for him and I'm not sure I wanted to see another football player succeed more than him after everything he went through and how he's handled it.

However, again assuming Kaep remains the starter (not announced yet) could you consider posting stats like our 3rd down percentage, 20+ yard pass plays, along with TD/throw(running and throwing) and INT/throw rates are compared to with Alex Smith. I think it would be great to see how Kaep compares to Alex if he does win he job. I'm not saying the one specifically I wrote, but obvsiouly looking at the differences between the two and whether or not Kaep can bring that more dynamic play to the team while minimizing the mistakes.

Thanks!

Not a bad suggestion. I'll take a look at what I can find.
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
That's a damn great point. We can't count on Akers bailing us out of a bad red-zone series, so being conservative in our play-calling and execution isn't going to work as well. We'll need to take more chances, be a little more daring and willing to throw in to the end zone more as opposed to checking down and settling for a FG attempt.

We don't throw in the RZ...only run

We need to contact Roman, stat!

Uh...all three of Kaeps passing TD's were in the redzone. They have been throwing quite often from there...and scoring TDs on first down.

Oh come on now Marvin...you know if CK didn't get his TD on that throw, 2 out of 3 times inside the 10 we're running the ball! LOL
Originally posted by Marvin49:
1) Kaepernick: I'm suspending the Alex Smith Stat update till he has new stats...which may be never in a 49er uniform. ;-) I have always been an Alex supporter on this forum. I have also always recognized his weaknesses. I've never made Alex out to be a dynamic passer. What he can be is deadly efficient in an offense that isn't built around him. There is something to be said for that and half the league would want someone who could play as well as Alex is playing right now. Having said all that, Colin Kaepernick is a different ballgame altogether. He has a chance to be special. People sometimes just see his mobility and think of him in terms of being a running QB, but it's what he's doing with his head, eyes, and arm that are making him special.In the past 2 games he's made 6-7 throws that Alex has never made. Ever. They are passes Alex would never even attempt, let alone complete. 16-25, 231 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT. If you look at that stat line without watching the game you don't get the whole picture. First, that doesn't show 3 clear drops and 2 of them would have extended drives. That also doesn't reflect 50 yards on 2 plays that were called back on holding penalties. Both of those drives would have put the Niners in scoring position. The pick BTW, was totally forgivable. The DB dropped off his receiver while Kaep was trying to pick the ball off the turf. Young QB mistake on a bad snap. He has now played very well against one of the best D's in the NFL and in one of the toughest environments in the NFL. These last two wins were against teams with plans in January. This last win may be the closest thing to a playoff game the Saints actually get to play because the Niners MAY have just eliminated them. As I stated last week, I'm not given to buy into hype, but I'm having a really hard time not checking into the Niner team store to look at Kaepernick jerseys. I'm still not saying he's arrived, but he is off to a great start.


Well put Marvin.

I've been waiting for an explosive passing game for so....many...years..it's ridiculous. Definitely feels like old times.
I enjoy this post each week.
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
1) Kaepernick: I'm suspending the Alex Smith Stat update till he has new stats...which may be never in a 49er uniform. ;-) I have always been an Alex supporter on this forum. I have also always recognized his weaknesses. I've never made Alex out to be a dynamic passer. What he can be is deadly efficient in an offense that isn't built around him. There is something to be said for that and half the league would want someone who could play as well as Alex is playing right now. Having said all that, Colin Kaepernick is a different ballgame altogether. He has a chance to be special. People sometimes just see his mobility and think of him in terms of being a running QB, but it's what he's doing with his head, eyes, and arm that are making him special.In the past 2 games he's made 6-7 throws that Alex has never made. Ever. They are passes Alex would never even attempt, let alone complete. 16-25, 231 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT. If you look at that stat line without watching the game you don't get the whole picture. First, that doesn't show 3 clear drops and 2 of them would have extended drives. That also doesn't reflect 50 yards on 2 plays that were called back on holding penalties. Both of those drives would have put the Niners in scoring position. The pick BTW, was totally forgivable. The DB dropped off his receiver while Kaep was trying to pick the ball off the turf. Young QB mistake on a bad snap. He has now played very well against one of the best D's in the NFL and in one of the toughest environments in the NFL. These last two wins were against teams with plans in January. This last win may be the closest thing to a playoff game the Saints actually get to play because the Niners MAY have just eliminated them. As I stated last week, I'm not given to buy into hype, but I'm having a really hard time not checking into the Niner team store to look at Kaepernick jerseys. I'm still not saying he's arrived, but he is off to a great start.

Well put Marvin.

I've been waiting for an explosive passing game for so....many...years..it's ridiculous. Definitely feels like old times.
i think my ulcer has gone away !!
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i think my ulcer has gone away !!

pretty much, lol
Originally posted by sfninerfanMax:
would the Niners trade Alex Smith in the offseason? I remember Jimmy Johnson drafting two QB's--Aikman and I forget the other QB's name--but he was traded eventually and that kept Dallas well stocked with good players in their last SB era.

If Kaep remains the starter and the 49ers can't negotiate Alex to a much smaller "backup" number (very unlikely they would be able to do that), he will be released. Other teams know he has a timebomb in his contract so won't trade for him. They'd just wait until Feb and sign him outright.