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Marvin49 · 2012-10-19T10:26:43-07:00

Nice to be back in the win column. ;-) 1) Alex Smith running tally: Stats after Eagles game in 2010. Now a complete 32 games or 2 full seasons worth of games. 32 Games, 883 Att, 558 Comp, 6406 Yards, 42 Tds, 13 INTs, 94.69 QB Rating. Alex came through on the TD drive, but he still had a rough night. As fun as it would be to just rip him a new one, I think we need to give some credit here to Seattle. They were BLANKETING the WRs out there. Seattle has a very, very good secondary. You could see Alex just shaking his head because nobody was shaking free of coverage. I also think there was ALOT of defensive holding out there that went FAR beyond 5 yards and Moss was CLEARLY interfered with early in the game on what would have been a first down. The INT was really an aberration for Alex. He VERY seldom throws picks in the Red-Zone. Bad throw? Yes. Bad Decision? Yes. Was Moss Wide Open? Yes. However, Alex was flushed out when Moss broke open. He may have been able to stand in and make the throw, but I'm not sure of that. A bad play tho regardless of how you look at it. Rough night for Alex against a very, very good defense. 2) O-Line: Holy Sh*t. Wow. That was the #2 ranked rush D in the NFL. Those holes were HUGE! Gore had a big day but he had truck sized lanes to run through. Over 170 yards against a very good run D. The sacks were all coverage sacks. Big, big night for that O-Line. 3) Frank/Kendall: Ya gotta be happy for Frank after all these years to finally get a Line and OC who really know how to use him. He's got 601 yards right now only through week 7, but that's not the impressive part. What's impressive is his 5.8 yards per carry. He is getting rest and isn't being overworked and is STILL getting his yards. What I love about him is that while he HAS lost a step, what made him SOOO good to begin with was his vision and patience. Give him a hole and he'll find it and exploit it even if he isn't making as many players miss. Kendall is averaging 5.2 yards per carry. Very often when you look at teams that like to grind it out and play good defense, they are only averaging about 4 yards per carry or less. To have both backs over 5 and the primary back at almost 6 is a testament to how good these backs are, how good the scheme is and how fantastic that line is playing. 4) Run D: Trying to figure this one out. Back to Back 100 yard rushers. Now Lynch is a monster, so I can almost forgive them...but they were also getting pushed back by the O'line of Seattle. Thay played a light box alot vs the Packers, Lions, and even Buffalo, but not in the last two games. Teams are starting to run right at Justin. I'm not really that concerned about it because this week it was Lynch and last week most of those yards were in the 4th quarter, but it is something to pay attention to. 5) Aldon: He didn't light it up on the stat-sheet....but WOW. When he gets a 1-on1 on a tackle, it just isn't fair. He owned the guy on the sack, almost did it again on the next play and then got doubleteamed in the endzone (and I don't think that was a chop block). He has also played very well against the run. 6) The Safety that wasn't: Been arguing with peeps on Facebook all morning about this one. Very good move. Just ask the Seahawks what they would rather have...a chance at the Ball on an Onside kick even though they would need 2 scores or the 49ers in Victory Formation to end the game. You have a chance at the ball one way and no chance the other. 7) WRs: Rough game for them. Just couldn't get open. I think losing Manningham made a difference as he's much more "sudden" than the rest and can usually break loose. Kyle Williams has quick feet, but he doesn't really separate. Moss was open in the endzone, but the pressure got to Alex and he made a bad throw. Again tho...you have to give credit to the Seahawks for being the Seahawks. Thats what they did to New England last week. If the refs aren't going to call interference or defensive holding, I don't see them changing any time soon. 8) Gameplan: I alluded to this before, but that was a masterful offensive game plan. Conventional wisdom was that the Seahawks "pake you pass" on them. Those were Tom Brady's words. It has alot to do with playing a 1 deep safety and relying on those big corners to maul the WRs on the outside. That allows for Safety help in the run game. The Niners ran anyway and were creative enough in teh way that they did so that it nullified the advantage. Frank was breaking into space all night. 9) Ginn: I hope that was a sign of things to come. We can really use him and those big returns in the second half. Kyle wasn't cutting it on Kickoffs. 10) NFC West: DAMN it feels good to put the Seahawks ona plane with an "L". 0-3 in the division and the Niners can do no worse that a division split with them. That mean the Niners will most likely have the Tie-Breaker when it comes down to the division as the Hawks can do no better than 3-3 in division. Even if the 'hawks win all 3 of their remaining division games, all the Niners need to do is win 3 of 5 and they hold the tie-breaker. Love it.

Oct 20, 2012 at 5:34 AM

#151

qwestlove94
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Frank Gore: "Look He's open,throw it to Moss!!!

Oct 20, 2012 at 6:12 AM

#152

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I said in the off season that we will learn everything we need to know about Smith this season.

It seems like we are seeing a lot of evidence now that nothing got better in the risk aversion category. Still has 10 weeks to figure it out.

Oct 20, 2012 at 7:25 AM

#153

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Originally posted by dj43:
Looking at it again tonight, when Alex should have thrown the ball to Moss was just when he got flushed out of the pocket. I doubt he would have been able to get the ball off at that moment. Still, if he had thrown it up high and let Randy sky for it, Browner might not have been able to get to it. Browner is 6'4" with some hops so he might have been able to knock it down anyway.

It's funny how some automatically think a QB can see the field as well as fans in the stands or on TV...as if all those other players are suddenly lying down on the field instead of standing in his way. My opinion is that he could have thrown a lob about when he had to scramble left but that would have assumed he saw Moss, knew that no DB could easily drift back, etc. So easy from our couches!

Oct 20, 2012 at 8:17 AM

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** glad to see the fullback Miller get more playing time.
*** I hate seeing Leonard Davis at TE or as an extra blocker he is slow and allows pressure when it is a passing play.
**** Seattle was holding and the rule change occured when NEW ENGLAND used to beat up on Peyton Manning, so I donot see how they got away with it all nite.

Alex Smith has reached his full potential we will not see him be anything more than we have seen the last two years. Is it better to go with Kaepernick? I know one thing the wide outs would prefer Kaeper. Vernon loves Alex.

Oct 20, 2012 at 8:20 AM

#155

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Originally posted by GORO:
** glad to see the fullback Miller get more playing time.
*** I hate seeing Leonard Davis at TE or as an extra blocker he is slow and allows pressure when it is a passing play.
**** Seattle was holding and the rule change occured when NEW ENGLAND used to beat up on Peyton Manning, so I donot see how they got away with it all nite.

Alex Smith has reached his full potential we will not see him be anything more than we have seen the last two years. Is it better to go with Kaepernick? I know one thing the wide outs would prefer Kaeper. Vernon loves Alex.

Was with you up until the bolded. And while his underwhelming games may suggest the bolded is true? I don't think he's reached his ceiling yet. Honestly don't. He works too hard and wants it too much for me to think he is maxed out. It's just an agree to disagree. You could have it right.. or not. We'll see...

Oct 20, 2012 at 8:22 AM

#156

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LOL Uncle Rico Smith!

Oct 20, 2012 at 10:08 AM

#157

GORO
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Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Was with you up until the bolded. And while his underwhelming games may suggest the bolded is true? I don't think he's reached his ceiling yet. Honestly don't. He works too hard and wants it too much for me to think he is maxed out. It's just an agree to disagree. You could have it right.. or not. We'll see...

I have wanted to believe that he can still be a franchise Qb. How many 300 yd passing games does he have? I believe it is 4 in his carear. Andrew Luck has 3 in his first 4 games this year.

Oct 20, 2012 at 10:10 AM

#158

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Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by dj43:
Looking at it again tonight, when Alex should have thrown the ball to Moss was just when he got flushed out of the pocket. I doubt he would have been able to get the ball off at that moment. Still, if he had thrown it up high and let Randy sky for it, Browner might not have been able to get to it. Browner is 6'4" with some hops so he might have been able to knock it down anyway.

It's funny how some automatically think a QB can see the field as well as fans in the stands or on TV...as if all those other players are suddenly lying down on the field instead of standing in his way. My opinion is that he could have thrown a lob about when he had to scramble left but that would have assumed he saw Moss, knew that no DB could easily drift back, etc. So easy from our couches!

I agree with this which is why I don't usually get on Alex for not always seeing open players. A QBs perspective isn't anywhere near what the camera gives us. What I am not happy is when he does see a receiver and decides to wait too long or not throw it at all, especially during man coverage. In man coverage, a properly placed ball is always advantage offense.

Oct 20, 2012 at 10:11 AM

#159

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Originally posted by GORO:
I have wanted to believe that he can still be a franchise Qb. How many 300 yd passing games does he have? I believe it is 4 in his carear. Andrew Luck has 3 in his first 4 games this year.

If Luck played for Harbaugh he would have none this year. Just a different type of offense. His average in college was Alex-like. Not comparing the two though as Luck may be one of the best rookie QBs ever.

Oct 20, 2012 at 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by GORO:

Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Was with you up until the bolded. And while his underwhelming games may suggest the bolded is true? I don't think he's reached his ceiling yet. Honestly don't. He works too hard and wants it too much for me to think he is maxed out. It's just an agree to disagree. You could have it right.. or not. We'll see...

I have wanted to believe that he can still be a franchise Qb. How many 300 yd passing games does he have? I believe it is 4 in his carear. Andrew Luck has 3 in his first 4 games this year.

First, let me ask you.. how many teams actually have a "franchise QB" ?

Oct 20, 2012 at 10:11 AM

#161

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Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by GORO:
I have wanted to believe that he can still be a franchise Qb. How many 300 yd passing games does he have? I believe it is 4 in his carear. Andrew Luck has 3 in his first 4 games this year.

If Luck played for Harbaugh he would have none this year. Just a different type of offense. His average in college was Alex-like. Not comparing the two though as Luck may be one of the best rookie QBs ever.

Alex wasn't always playing for JH.

Oct 20, 2012 at 10:24 AM

#162

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Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by GORO:
I have wanted to believe that he can still be a franchise Qb. How many 300 yd passing games does he have? I believe it is 4 in his carear. Andrew Luck has 3 in his first 4 games this year.

If Luck played for Harbaugh he would have none this year. Just a different type of offense. His average in college was Alex-like. Not comparing the two though as Luck may be one of the best rookie QBs ever.

Alex wasn't always playing for JH.

LOL...no, he was playing for Jimmy Raye and playing lights out in the Red Zone!

Oct 20, 2012 at 10:46 AM

#163

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Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Are these elite numbers now?

32 Games (2 seasons), 883 Att, 558 Comp, 6,406 Yards, 42 Tds, 13 INTs, 94.69 QB Rating.

Oh wait, stats are for losers!

Not sure what point you are trying to make...

The first half was serious...those are pretty significant and impressive numbers esp. given the conservative nature of our offense coupled with significant turnover in players, injuries, etc. I'm wondering how the "elite" QB's match up statistically despite their "aggressive" nature of offensive philosophy.

The second part was a Justin Smith joke-reference.

Oct 20, 2012 at 1:06 PM

#164

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We need to be prepared for pass plays like the one Turbin was open for.

Hey Marvin - Keep up the fine work.

AND PLEASE POSTERS - ENOUGH W/ THE ALEX CRAP. MOVE IT TO ANOTHER THREAD.

Oct 20, 2012 at 1:11 PM

#165

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Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
First, let me ask you.. how many teams actually have a "franchise QB" ?

I'd say 10 teams have franchis Qb's, eleven if you count Peyton Manning. If Alex Smith was to be traded what would be the asking price?