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Guess What? Now we're "Old Fashioned."
Sep 18, 2012 at 11:55 AM
- Furlow
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The fact that people are hating on us means we're doing something right. Like Katt Williams says, we need to collect as many haters as possible. It's more motivation.
Sep 18, 2012 at 11:57 AM
- LasVegasWally
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We're old fashioned because we don't have any diva drama to help them write their weak articles.
IMO, it's good they keep treating us as an after-thought. When we win the SBowl these clowns will be jumping on the band wagon like they always do.
IMO, it's good they keep treating us as an after-thought. When we win the SBowl these clowns will be jumping on the band wagon like they always do.
Sep 18, 2012 at 12:00 PM
- islavistan
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Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
BTW, we're not old fashioned. we're taking the next step into evolving the game (again).
This is a copy cat league and we are just ahead of the curve. Offensively the league has gotten pass happy and become "basketball on grass". Defenses countered that by focusing on pass rush and emphasizing coverage skills (nicklebacks and coverage safetys). Harbaugh's innovation of being "Old fashioned" runs counter to this defensive evolution and has led to the niners resurgence. By using this philosophy the niners were able to stockpile players who were undervalued by other teams because they were putting more value on different skill sets. Harbaugh had a vision and is forcing the rest of the NFL to adapt to him. Give it time and the rest of the nfl will start "evolving" into the Harbaugh way.
Sep 18, 2012 at 12:13 PM
- islavistan
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You always see new coaches come in and want to change the personnel on the team to fit their new philosophy. Its great to see Harbaugh take this team, identify it's strengths and weaknesses, and then tweak his philosophy to maximize that talent. I know that seems like Coaching 101, just amazing to see how fast he was able to right the ship.
Sep 18, 2012 at 12:13 PM
- Allx9er
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Originally posted by islavistan:Originally posted by HailJerry:Originally posted by Prospector:You will get nothing but elitist, East Coast bias garbage from the national media, which should just be called the New York marketing department: "Pete Prisco was born on Long Island, which might be part of the reason he has that New York mentality as a reporter: right to the point. After living for a time outside of Philadelphia, where his first NFL game was the Eagles and Steelers at old Franklin Field."
The only thing Pete Priscos of the world care about is their filthy, overcrowded traffic jam of a coast. I bet the NY media want to get rid of the salary cap, so New York can simply buy more opportunities at championships, like with their Yankees. Forget ESPN and their dirty obsession with the East Coast. Don't give them any traffic.
Much better to go read good articles by knowledgeable fans. I have never linked to Bleacher Report before, but this article "Why the 49ers are set up for a legendary season" is one of the best I've read in a long time:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1337677-why-the-san-francisco-49ers-are-setup-for-a-legendary-season
That was a great read. Thanks for sharing.
Nice article.
Nice
Sep 18, 2012 at 12:14 PM
- eastie
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Originally posted by islavistan:
This is a copy cat league and we are just ahead of the curve. Offensively the league has gotten pass happy and become "basketball on grass". Defenses countered that by focusing on pass rush and emphasizing coverage skills (nicklebacks and coverage safetys). Harbaugh's innovation of being "Old fashioned" runs counter to this defensive evolution and has led to the niners resurgence. By using this philosophy the niners were able to stockpile players who were undervalued by other teams because they were putting more value on different skill sets. Harbaugh had a vision and is forcing the rest of the NFL to adapt to him. Give it time and the rest of the nfl will start "evolving" into the Harbaugh way.
Execellent post. Right on the money!
Sep 18, 2012 at 12:20 PM
- Joecool
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We are bringing back the True West Coast Offense in an era that has once again heavily skewed to one-dimensional football. Walsh was smart to create this type of balanced attack when the league was all about running and play action. Now JH has rejuvenated this type of game in a heavy pass 30+ times per game league.
Also, I would not necessarily call us old-fashioned. JH is starting trends with using Offensive Tackles as Tight Ends, Defensive Tackles as Fullbacks, and heavy shifts.
We are bringing back the True West Coast Offense in an era that has once again heavily skewed to one-dimensional football. Walsh was smart to create this type of balanced attack when the league was all about running and play action. Now JH has rejuvenated this type of game in a heavy pass 30+ times per game league.
Also, I would not necessarily call us old-fashioned. JH is starting trends with using Offensive Tackles as Tight Ends, Defensive Tackles as Fullbacks, and heavy shifts.
Sep 18, 2012 at 12:25 PM
- English
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Originally posted by islavistan:You always see new coaches come in and want to change the personnel on the team to fit their new philosophy. Its great to see Harbaugh take this team, identify it's strengths and weaknesses, and then tweak his philosophy to maximize that talent. I know that seems like Coaching 101, just amazing to see how fast he was able to right the ship.
Well, we had been accumulating some good players. Our player development and our coaching was useless, though.
Sep 18, 2012 at 12:25 PM
- Jesu80ncleats
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Originally posted by islavistan:This, BR actually does a really good job, they have a couple crap shoot reporters, but overall not a bad site.
Originally posted by HailJerry:
Originally posted by Prospector:
You will get nothing but elitist, East Coast bias garbage from the national media, which should just be called the New York marketing department: "Pete Prisco was born on Long Island, which might be part of the reason he has that New York mentality as a reporter: right to the point. After living for a time outside of Philadelphia, where his first NFL game was the Eagles and Steelers at old Franklin Field."
The only thing Pete Priscos of the world care about is their filthy, overcrowded traffic jam of a coast. I bet the NY media want to get rid of the salary cap, so New York can simply buy more opportunities at championships, like with their Yankees. Forget ESPN and their dirty obsession with the East Coast. Don't give them any traffic.
Much better to go read good articles by knowledgeable fans. I have never linked to Bleacher Report before, but this article "Why the 49ers are set up for a legendary season" is one of the best I've read in a long time:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1337677-why-the-san-francisco-49ers-are-setup-for-a-legendary-season
That was a great read. Thanks for sharing.
Nice article.
Sep 18, 2012 at 12:32 PM
- Sinsation
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wow, some of you really need to relax. trying to find any old reason to b***h and moan.
fact of the matter is this team IS playing old fashioned. how is that a bad thing? In an age of prolific passing attacks, we're going back to "defense wins championships". its tried and true and i personally am not slighted at all by it.
do i agree that this offense is limited in the passing game, no. We are playing to win the game, no need to pass 40 times a game if we don't have to. Some ppl don't believe we can (even tho i do), until they see it. As long as we're playing with a lead and crushing the other team, we won't see it. I'm fine with racking up W's.
fact of the matter is this team IS playing old fashioned. how is that a bad thing? In an age of prolific passing attacks, we're going back to "defense wins championships". its tried and true and i personally am not slighted at all by it.
do i agree that this offense is limited in the passing game, no. We are playing to win the game, no need to pass 40 times a game if we don't have to. Some ppl don't believe we can (even tho i do), until they see it. As long as we're playing with a lead and crushing the other team, we won't see it. I'm fine with racking up W's.
Sep 18, 2012 at 12:33 PM
- pdizo916
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Hey, guess what? We're winning!
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Sep 18, 2012 at 12:35 PM
- 9erempire
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They can call it old fashioned or whatever they want to call it but I call it innovation on Harbaugh's part. This is a copycat league and during the late 90's and early 00's most teams were running the West Coast Offense and winning Super Bowls that way. Remember every team that ran the WCO, there were always a reference to the coach being from the Walsh coaching lineage.
It wasn't till years ago, that the WCO died. More teams were using spread formations because colleges were playing this offense. Example, Alex Smith and other passing QB's from college. From there, they adopted that style in the NFL to a more passing friendly league.
What JH is doing, is being innovative by bringing back the WCO which at it's peak, are more balanced and more superior offense than any recent Super Bowl champs of this decade with their passer friendly offense. Manning's Colts, Eli's Giants, Brady's Offense and Brees' offense have nothing on the WCO Super Bowl teams of the past.
JH is trying to re-invent this league and eventually the league recycles itself, that's why they call it old fashioned but JH is actually trying to bring it back. You won't see many teams copying the 49ers because that WCO coaching tree is slowly dying as coaches get older. JH is the last true "jedi" of this offense and any copycat would have to come from JH's coaching staff and they have to follow this philosophy as well.
Even the great Mike Shanahan and his WCO is dead. He's running a completely different system and he was a great mind when it comes to the WCO.
It wasn't till years ago, that the WCO died. More teams were using spread formations because colleges were playing this offense. Example, Alex Smith and other passing QB's from college. From there, they adopted that style in the NFL to a more passing friendly league.
What JH is doing, is being innovative by bringing back the WCO which at it's peak, are more balanced and more superior offense than any recent Super Bowl champs of this decade with their passer friendly offense. Manning's Colts, Eli's Giants, Brady's Offense and Brees' offense have nothing on the WCO Super Bowl teams of the past.
JH is trying to re-invent this league and eventually the league recycles itself, that's why they call it old fashioned but JH is actually trying to bring it back. You won't see many teams copying the 49ers because that WCO coaching tree is slowly dying as coaches get older. JH is the last true "jedi" of this offense and any copycat would have to come from JH's coaching staff and they have to follow this philosophy as well.
Even the great Mike Shanahan and his WCO is dead. He's running a completely different system and he was a great mind when it comes to the WCO.
Sep 18, 2012 at 12:40 PM
- Matt94520
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Now they say we are "Old Fashioned" But once we run the table we are going to set a new trend in the NFL. Walsh did something similar when he introduced the West Coast Offense.
Sep 18, 2012 at 12:43 PM
- fryet
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My fear for the 49ers and their balanced approach is what will happen to the team in a salary cap era. We aren't going to be able to pay our offense, defense, and special teams as much as they deserve. So we may start to shed a lot of players. Our only hope is if we can continue to draft well to replace those that leave for more money.
P.S. I am really glad that we didn't get Peyton. He would have blown up our salary cap.
P.P.S. The new stadium should be called "The House that Jim Harbaugh" built. Winning sure does make it easier to sell those PSLs.
P.S. I am really glad that we didn't get Peyton. He would have blown up our salary cap.
P.P.S. The new stadium should be called "The House that Jim Harbaugh" built. Winning sure does make it easier to sell those PSLs.
Sep 18, 2012 at 12:45 PM
- dmax
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I dont give a flying fig what they call us..we are winning