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One thing Harbaugh is not good at.

GB was in no huddle and he wasn't able to get confirmation from the booth in time so he went with throwing the flag before GB starts in case it was close.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Challenges.

He sucks bad at that. He's an awesome coach, personnel evaluator, QB developer, X's and O's schemes guy, outcoaches almost everybody he plays. But he is not super at challenges. It seems like he just throws the red flag if he doesn't like the call. But you have to throw it if it has a chance to be overturned. If it has no chance you just lose timeouts which can cost you in close games.

Don't get me wrong Harbaugh is the best thing to hit the Bay Area and 49ers in a long time. And I love having him. I would not want anybody else. But maybe he could get better at that. He reminds me of Norv Turner here in SD. Who just throws the challenge everytime he doesn't like the play. No matter how many times he loses or loses timeouts.

I don't know about that. He might have very well tried to slow down the Packers' no-huddle offense at that point. If that was the case, it worked because the defense stopped the Packers a few plays after that.
Originally posted by KegBert:
Originally posted by D-TownTheo:
He isn't good at handshakes include that...he shakes peoples hands to hard

Haha thread win.

Back on topic. Those 2 challenges he threw in the GB where pretty bad judgements but i think the emotion of the game got to him a lil bit on those. Other than these most recent ones I cant really think of any glaringly bad ones, but i do have a pretty terrible;e memory.

That first challenge was great! It stopped the Packers from going no-huddle and possibly stopped any momentum they were building up.
http://www.ninersnation.com/2011/11/14/2560423/49ers-vs-giants-coach-jim-harbaugh-challenge-timeout

week 10 last year against the giants.

just may have been the reason justin smith was able to blosk that pass....
He is not good at managing









Dandruff.... there I said it
He's gotten a little better. Doesn't help when he gets robbed like on that Harry Douglass no-call.

Yes, it was wrong.

That's why the Calvin Johnson rule was established.
You are completely wrong on this thread.....

Did you not watch him work the replacement refs for a 4th timeout and an extra challenge vs the Vikings? The Harry Douglas catch was a without a doubt challenge. They didn't win the challenge but it clearly could have gone either way and it was late enough in the game that you gain nothing by pocketing the extra challenge or time out when you have a lead in that situation.

Post some concrete examples of instances he shouldn't have challenge then we'll have something to talk about.
He's not good at losing.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
You are completely wrong on this thread.....

Did you not watch him work the replacement refs for a 4th timeout and an extra challenge vs the Vikings? The Harry Douglas catch was a without a doubt challenge. They didn't win the challenge but it clearly could have gone either way and it was late enough in the game that you gain nothing by pocketing the extra challenge or time out when you have a lead in that situation.

Post some concrete examples of instances he shouldn't have challenge then we'll have something to talk about.


I think you misunderstood

I agreed with the Harry challenge
Disagreed on the ruling though
Yep, I can't remember the last time he won a challenge but we've been getting screwed since he's been head coach. The last one, the ball wiggles through the reciever's arms hits the ground and then confirmed it is a catch? That's just as bad as the Greenbay Seahawks, interception, one hand reception BS! If the 49ers lose that game it would have been talked about for ages. That was a blown call on so many levels.
Originally posted by vermonator:
Yep, I can't remember the last time he won a challenge but we've been getting screwed since he's been head coach. The last one, the ball wiggles through the reciever's arms hits the ground and then confirmed it is a catch? That's just as bad as the Greenbay Seahawks, interception, one hand reception BS! If the 49ers lose that game it would have been talked about for ages. That was a blown call on so many levels.

Agree. I think I threw about a big of a fit as Harbaugh did in my living room.
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Challenges.

He sucks bad at that. He's an awesome coach, personnel evaluator, QB developer, X's and O's schemes guy, outcoaches almost everybody he plays. But he is not super at challenges. It seems like he just throws the red flag if he doesn't like the call. But you have to throw it if it has a chance to be overturned. If it has no chance you just lose timeouts which can cost you in close games.

Don't get me wrong Harbaugh is the best thing to hit the Bay Area and 49ers in a long time. And I love having him. I would not want anybody else. But maybe he could get better at that. He reminds me of Norv Turner here in SD. Who just throws the challenge everytime he doesn't like the play. No matter how many times he loses or loses timeouts.

Once again u r tripping. Just like when Kaep came in and i had to educate u that he was All-Pro right now. Harbaugh does burn some challanges at the right time. If u notice the ones that he loses come close to the 2min warning where it is ur last chance to challange so u can use it or lose it or they are times where he would call a timeout but uses that last challange in the same way. Stop being negative and enjoy this SB run
Originally posted by zillabeast:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
You are completely wrong on this thread.....

Did you not watch him work the replacement refs for a 4th timeout and an extra challenge vs the Vikings? The Harry Douglas catch was a without a doubt challenge. They didn't win the challenge but it clearly could have gone either way and it was late enough in the game that you gain nothing by pocketing the extra challenge or time out when you have a lead in that situation.

Post some concrete examples of instances he shouldn't have challenge then we'll have something to talk about.


I think you misunderstood

I agreed with the Harry challenge

My bad I was talking to San Diego not you. I was replying to his original post. I can't recall a single instance where I thought why are you challenging this Harbs. He's like the anti-Jim Schwartz.
Harbaugh doesn't only challenge when he thinks he will win. His reactions during different challenges over the last 2 seasons proves that. Sometimes he flips out like the Douglas catch or the intentional grounding for a safety against stl. Other times he barely even grimaces. Those times he knew when he threw the flag that he was going to lose the challenge, I am absolutely convinced.

The Niners have smartly figured out that a challenge is a much longer timeout than a normal timeout and Harbaugh likes to use the challenge to let his team recover from a big play/call against with the extended time out. Plus the added chance that the challenge may go their way and not use a timeout is a bonus.

I would LOVE to see a stat that compiles the total amount of "time out" a team has when a timeout is charged, challenge or otherwise.

To sum it up, the win/loss ratio of challenges is in no way shape or form an indication of Harbaughs miss management of challenges unless you assume he is trying to win them all which I do not believe he is.
[ Edited by WINiner on Feb 2, 2013 at 9:19 AM ]