Originally posted by kush:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
This really is a nonsensical thread in my opinion. I don't think Harbaugh would put Colin at the #2 if he wasn't the best player for the spot. I am not a big fan of Colin's playing style, I prefer a conventional pocket passer especially in the WCO, but Harbaugh has proven to me that he knows qbs. In my opinion Smith will play well enough that Colin will get all the time he needs to develop and grow into a legit NFL qb. Honestly though, he is nowhere near as NFL ready as Smith was coming out of college, and we all know what a piece of work he has been. All I have to say is I hope you younger guys from the generation of instant gratification show more patience than you allowed Smith.
Would LOVE to know why you think this?
Alex to this day was one of the worst rookie QB I have ever seen. Time heals all wounds though, I can see how some nice revisionist mental history could make you feel he was even close to being an effective player.
Because CK looks as bad as Smith did and Smith had nowhere near the coaching or talent surrounding him. You can look at both guys coming out of college and Smith was a much more accurate passer and played against tougher competition. See your problem is you see the problem but fail to understand the cause of the problem, it is just lazy thinking to blame Smith for how bad the 05 team was. Did you ever stop to think that maybe the reason Smith looked so bad as a rookie is that he was neck deep in the s**ttiest team in the NFL? There was a reason that the Niners had the number one pick that year, they were by a wide margin the worst Niner team I have ever seen in my 32+ years of being a Niner fan.
Just so you know where I am coming from since I don't remember you being here...I didn't want Smith or Rodgers coming into that draft, I thought this team needed a lot more along the line of scrimmage before they were ready to pick up a QB. Smith was a spread QB, those kind of QB's usually have to learn to play the pro style game, and Rodgers was a frail QB that was concussion prone. I wanted to draft oline or defense, but I guess no one wanted to trade up to the first pick that year. It wasn't until Smith's second year that I started to warm up to him. After the Houston game where he came in and threw for all those yards and almost led the comeback, I kinda sensed that he might be better than I figured at first. After that season I began to wonder how much better he could get with the right coaching staff, and after last season I believe in him and am convinced all he needed was a good coach, one that knows how to put his players in the best position to succeed, not throw him under the bus when it became obvious that they were in over their heads. No matter how you slice it, the last 4 minutes of that saints game is as good a job at playing QB as I have seen from ANY qb in all my years watching the Niners. Just look at who the receivers were in that game and tell me that you think that wasn't a performance worthy of Niner lore. The fact that there are a few who under the guise of being "fair critics" constantly try to nitpick him like they expect him to be perfect in a game that doesn't allow for perfection is what fires me up because to me it is just plain trolling. Like spending five pages in the thread arguing that a pass caught for a 24 yard gain on third down wasn't perfect, that is pure retardation.
Back on topic now, CK has the athletic ability but to me he looks like he needs to work on the mental part of the game, and that is something that can be coached, so I am not worried that he won't ever be good, I am more concerned that with Smith looking to finally come into his own that we might have to trade CK so he gets a chance to play in the NFL in his prime.