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Stock Up or Down? Updated through all 4 games
Aug 26, 2012 at 8:09 PM
- CorvaNinerFan
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Good assessment on the risers/fallers...I was at Mile High and Brock had a rough game. Entire 1st team D didn't look very inspired, at all. They seemed to escape any injuries, though. I think McBath also helped his cause...made some nice stops behind the LOS.
Aug 27, 2012 at 8:15 AM
- Paul_Hofer
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After a series of injuries going back to last season, I think Ted Ginn's stock should be down.
Aug 27, 2012 at 9:07 AM
- cciowa
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Kyle Williams and AJ Jenkins both are going up.
yes it is good to see nice things from the kid. i am not expecting much from his this year but he is better now as compared to a month ago and I am sure he will be better next month than now. i was impressed by kyle in the off season when it appeared he was not letting the giants game get to him and he busted his ass to make this team. i think he would have made it anyway but now with ginn hobbled a bit, am pretty sure he will make it and i have no problems with him returning in green bay
Aug 27, 2012 at 9:25 AM
- LasVegasWally
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Agree w/Hofer - Ginn stock down. Is he brittle?
Aug 27, 2012 at 9:53 AM
- Paul_Hofer
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Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Agree w/Hofer - Ginn stock down. Is he brittle?
"A right-ankle injury forced him out of a Dec. 19 win over Pittsburgh, and he was inactive for the final two weeks of the regular season. After a first-round playoff bye, Ginn returned in the 49ers' playoff game against New Orleans, only to sustain a right-knee injury that required minor surgery."
Cam Inman, "Ginn's injury could vault Williams into return role — again"
Ginn's also missed early and late off-season training time due to injuries.
With the Niners' wealth of talent, will the coaches want to retain Ginn as a oft-injured returner when he has yet to prove himself as a receiver?
[ Edited by Paul_Hofer on Aug 27, 2012 at 9:56 AM ]
Aug 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM
- cciowa
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Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:yes they will, untill we get someone in here who can return kicks on a consistant basis, ginn stays. You do not cut him and not have a plan for someone to return kicks as well as the guy you just cut. i think williams can do the punts but will not know for sure untill we see him do it a bunch of times in a row,. who exactly has stepped it up in the kick return game this off season to back up ginn?? no one so ginn stays, bad ankle and all in my opinion
"A right-ankle injury forced him out of a Dec. 19 win over Pittsburgh, and he was inactive for the final two weeks of the regular season. After a first-round playoff bye, Ginn returned in the 49ers' playoff game against New Orleans, only to sustain a right-knee injury that required minor surgery."
Cam Inman, "Ginn's injury could vault Williams into return role — again"
Ginn's also missed early and late off-season training time due to injuries.
With the Niners' wealth of talent, will the coaches want to retain Ginn as a oft-injured returner when he has yet to prove himself as a receiver?
Aug 27, 2012 at 10:57 AM
- NinerBuff
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Kyle Williams and AJ Jenkins both are going up.
And with Ginn's injury, Kyle Williams is definitely up.
Aug 27, 2012 at 12:34 PM
- Gore_21
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
And with Ginn's injury, Kyle Williams is definitely up.
does anyone know anything about Ginn's injury besides x-rays were negative?
I actually feel pretty good if Kyle has to return. He's play hard I just hope he doesn't push too hard and make another mistake. He is doing well but the fans will be all over him the 1st fumble he has.
Aug 27, 2012 at 1:52 PM
- Ninerbowl6
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Stock up: Kyle Williams & Konrad Reuland
Stock down: T. Brock & Micheal Thomas
Stock down: T. Brock & Micheal Thomas
Aug 27, 2012 at 2:14 PM
- NinerBuff
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Originally posted by Gore_21:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
And with Ginn's injury, Kyle Williams is definitely up.
does anyone know anything about Ginn's injury besides x-rays were negative?
I actually feel pretty good if Kyle has to return. He's play hard I just hope he doesn't push too hard and make another mistake. He is doing well but the fans will be all over him the 1st fumble he has.
No, and I'm wondering the same thing. I really hope Ginn can be healthy when it really counts, the playoffs!
Aug 27, 2012 at 2:32 PM
- sfout
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Originally posted by Ninerbowl6:
Stock up: Kyle Williams & Konrad Reuland
Stock down: T. Brock & Micheal Thomas
Why is Thomas' stock down from your view? He's the most versatile DB we have on the roster and the team cut other super-versatile practice squad DB Nelms today. IMHO that means Thomas' stock is up.
Aug 27, 2012 at 2:37 PM
- Gore_21
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Originally posted by sfout:
Why is Thomas' stock down from your view? He's the most versatile DB we have on the roster and the team cut other super-versatile practice squad DB Nelms today. IMHO that means Thomas' stock is up.
I'm really intrigued to see if we keep a 5th S after Spillman and Robinson . I would say Thomas, McBath and Jones all have a shot at that final spot if we do.
[ Edited by Gore_21 on Aug 27, 2012 at 2:38 PM ]
Aug 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM
- sfout
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Originally posted by Gore_21:
Originally posted by sfout:
Why is Thomas' stock down from your view? He's the most versatile DB we have on the roster and the team cut other super-versatile practice squad DB Nelms today. IMHO that means Thomas' stock is up.
I'm really intrigued to see if we keep a 5th S after Spillman and Robinson . I would say Thomas, McBath and Jones all have a shot at that final spot if we do.
same. I think so but I have to be honest I might put Jones behind McBath and Thomas if i had to order it. Yes Jones was a pick but clearly we dont put to great of stock into picks, see Ronald Johnson, Jason Slowey (we'll have to wait and see if we bring him back on PS like many reporters opined earlier in the summer). Jones' biggest asset is being a 4.3 guy on ST, something neither McBath or Thomas has but both McBath and Thomas have years of experience in our schemes, McBath with Donatell in Denver and Thomas with Fangio at Stanford.
[ Edited by sfout on Aug 27, 2012 at 2:49 PM ]
Aug 27, 2012 at 2:51 PM
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Originally posted by Ninerbowl6:
Stock up: Kyle Williams & Konrad Reuland
Stock down: T. Brock & Micheal Thomas
Stock down? More like company filed for bankruptcy.
Aug 27, 2012 at 2:51 PM
- Gore_21
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Originally posted by sfout:
same. I think so but I have to be honest I might put Jones behind McBath and Thomas if i had to order it. Yes Jones was a pick but clearly we dont put to great of stock into picks, see Ronald Johnson, Jason Slowey (we'll have to wait and see if we bring him back on PS like many reporters opined earlier in the summer). Jones' biggest asset is being a 4.3 guy on ST, both McBath and Thomas have years of experience in our schemes, McBath with Donatell in Denver and Thomas with Fangio at Stanford.
And I have said to others who argued we keep Colin Jones for ST (because he really serves no purpose at SS) is that we have one of the best ST in the league and we already have a bunch of ST aces. We use our 1st stringers on PR so we have Bowman and Goldson, we have Spillman who is an ace, we have guys like Dixon or Cartwright, Gooden and Grant, etc. It's not like we are bare at ST. I would agree and put Thomas and McBath ahead of him but like I said I don't think any of those 3 are out of it. A lot could depend if we got 4 CBs and add an extra S because in previous years we would bring in Reggie as a 3rd S instead of 5th CB. Or we used him like a CB.... I'm wondering if we would do that this year and bring in Spillman or Robinson as the extra DB in dime packages instead of Brock.
[ Edited by Gore_21 on Aug 27, 2012 at 2:53 PM ]