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Jun 21, 2012 at 8:10 AM
Not a bad article, and I kind of agree with him on Staley.
Jun 21, 2012 at 8:34 AM
Originally posted by 5280High:
Not a bad article, and I kind of agree with him on Staley.

Why? We played some of the top passrushers this year and Staley kept Alex pretty darn clean. Look at how well Staley played in the NFCC. He more than held his own against a deadly front 4.

RayMac has always been my favorite "non-elite" Niner. Dude is a monster when healthy. I expect big things from him this year.
Jun 21, 2012 at 9:55 AM
Originally posted by 49erstrandedinclev:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/19382983/overratedunderrated-sue-me-lions-fans-but-suh-is-more-hype-than-bite
Here is an article on the most underrated and overratted players in the NFL. Glad to see Ray McDonald get some love.

Spot on...Joe Staley as overrated and McDonald as underrated (would also add Brooks b/c he wasn't injured last year while McDonald was but both are great picks nonetheless)!
Jun 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Ray Mac's best attribute it his reaction time and burst off the line. The eagles play where he sack vick as he hAnded off was incredible.

I remembered talking with OND about that play; may have been the coolest play of the year as Vick was nailed by RayMac and (somehow) got the hand off and Brooks nailed the RB at the same time for a TFL. How both made that play is beyond me. Usually when something like that happens, the defense naturally stops for a second and the RB ends up making a huge gain out of it (b/c the defense thought it was a sack).

BTW: If Brooks doesn't make that TFL, that's most likely a TD.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jun 21, 2012 at 12:45 PM ]
Jun 21, 2012 at 11:41 AM
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by 5280High:
Not a bad article, and I kind of agree with him on Staley.

Why? We played some of the top passrushers this year and Staley kept Alex pretty darn clean. Look at how well Staley played in the NFCC. He more than held his own against a deadly front 4.

RayMac has always been my favorite "non-elite" Niner. Dude is a monster when healthy. I expect big things from him this year.

Didnt mean to imply that he was in any way a bad player, just that if I had to choose an overated player it would probably be him. He had a much better year than the previous one, but when I think of "probowl LT" I think dominant, and Staley is imo more well rounded than dominant.

But ya, RayMac is a beast and Im glad we finally got a coaching staff that recognized the talent already on the team rather than thinking they had to clean house and start over.
Jun 21, 2012 at 1:58 PM
Originally posted by 5280High:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by 5280High:
Not a bad article, and I kind of agree with him on Staley.

Why? We played some of the top passrushers this year and Staley kept Alex pretty darn clean. Look at how well Staley played in the NFCC. He more than held his own against a deadly front 4.

RayMac has always been my favorite "non-elite" Niner. Dude is a monster when healthy. I expect big things from him this year.

Didnt mean to imply that he was in any way a bad player, just that if I had to choose an overated player it would probably be him. He had a much better year than the previous one, but when I think of "probowl LT" I think dominant, and Staley is imo more well rounded than dominant.

But ya, RayMac is a beast and Im glad we finally got a coaching staff that recognized the talent already on the team rather than thinking they had to clean house and start over.

I think that's a fair assesment.
Jun 21, 2012 at 3:17 PM
Glad he's getting the props he deserves.
Jun 21, 2012 at 10:55 PM
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Ray Mac's best attribute it his reaction time and burst off the line. The eagles play where he sack vick as he hAnded off was incredible.

I remembered talking with OND about that play; may have been the coolest play of the year as Vick was nailed by RayMac and (somehow) got the hand off and Brooks nailed the RB at the same time for a TFL. How both made that play is beyond me. Usually when something like that happens, the defense naturally stops for a second and the RB ends up making a huge gain out of it (b/c the defense thought it was a sack).

BTW: If Brooks doesn't make that TFL, that's most likely a TD.

Yeah team defense and discipline are impressive. And i believe that was Bowman who made the tackle.
Jun 21, 2012 at 10:59 PM
Did he play on the same line as Jarvis Moss?
Jun 21, 2012 at 11:01 PM
Originally posted by SolRebe1:
Did he play on the same line as Jarvis Moss?

Yup. For two years i think.

Jun 22, 2012 at 2:08 AM
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Ray Mac's best attribute it his reaction time and burst off the line. The eagles play where he sack vick as he hAnded off was incredible.

I remembered talking with OND about that play; may have been the coolest play of the year as Vick was nailed by RayMac and (somehow) got the hand off and Brooks nailed the RB at the same time for a TFL. How both made that play is beyond me. Usually when something like that happens, the defense naturally stops for a second and the RB ends up making a huge gain out of it (b/c the defense thought it was a sack).

BTW: If Brooks doesn't make that TFL, that's most likely a TD.

Bowman looked ready to shed Brent Celek and clean it up if Brooks somehow missed that tackle.
Jun 22, 2012 at 7:24 AM
Joe Staley is not overrated!!
Jun 22, 2012 at 7:31 AM
If Ray Mac stays healthy , he will be a major force this season
Jun 22, 2012 at 7:48 AM
Troy over rated... discredits his whole article. That dude is a beast.
Jun 22, 2012 at 8:25 AM
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Joe Staley is not overrated!!


I think thats a fair assesment!
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