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Crabtree's interview he said he ran a 4.4......Are people shocked by that statement?

Originally posted by 5timechamps:
michael crabtree is a good receiver.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I think Crabtree has Fitzgerald like speed. Mid 4.5 timed, but on the field a little faster. His speed is fine. Don't care if he's not Ginn-like, his other attributes matter more.

In addition to the comments that OTC made, I would add this..... I don't believe Crabtree has had a season yet when he was fully healthy. I think even last year, when he caught 72 passes, he wasn't fully healthy. He played through that hurt foot the entire year and didn't complain about it. If you all remember, last season there were rumblings that his hurt foot was chronic and that he may even have to retire early. It appears now that the last procedure he underwent seems to finally have worked and corrected the issue....and now, this season, we all may finally find out what he is capable of.

My biggest beef with Crabs has been that he declined Jerry Rice's offers to help him with his game. If you really want to be the best receiver you can be, why wouldn't you want to work with the absolute best (who still is in terrific shape BTW)? I was very encouraged when AJ Jenkins immediately accepted Rice's invitation to tackle "the hill". That, to me, tells me that Jenkins is really serious about his craft and wants to improve "by any means necessary"... Up until now, I'm not convinced that Crabtree has that attitude and approach to the game. He may have just needed a couple of years to mature and get healthy.....but I think this is the year for him to show up or STFU...

Cheers!
^^ he may have larry fitz speed (well he isnt that fast) but no one has his work ethic

larry fitz may be best route runner in nfl and his size arm length height etc make him almost impossible to guard

crabtree is 3 inches smaller than fitz therefore must copinsate that lack of height with more speed
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I think Crabtree has Fitzgerald like speed. Mid 4.5 timed, but on the field a little faster. His speed is fine. Don't care if he's not Ginn-like, his other attributes matter more.

In addition to the comments that OTC made, I would add this..... I don't believe Crabtree has had a season yet when he was fully healthy. I think even last year, when he caught 72 passes, he wasn't fully healthy. He played through that hurt foot the entire year and didn't complain about it. If you all remember, last season there were rumblings that his hurt foot was chronic and that he may even have to retire early. It appears now that the last procedure he underwent seems to finally have worked and corrected the issue....and now, this season, we all may finally find out what he is capable of.

My biggest beef with Crabs has been that he declined Jerry Rice's offers to help him with his game. If you really want to be the best receiver you can be, why wouldn't you want to work with the absolute best (who still is in terrific shape BTW)? I was very encouraged when AJ Jenkins immediately accepted Rice's invitation to tackle "the hill". That, to me, tells me that Jenkins is really serious about his craft and wants to improve "by any means necessary"... Up until now, I'm not convinced that Crabtree has that attitude and approach to the game. He may have just needed a couple of years to mature and get healthy.....but I think this is the year for him to show up or STFU...

Cheers!

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First 1000+ yards, 90 catches season coming in 2012 for Crabtree - book it.
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
First 1000+ yards, 90 catches season coming in 2012 for Crabtree - book it.

with moss, manningham, Jenkins, James, and VD he won't get that many balls...crabs had a monopoly last year due to lack of options....won't have that problem this year
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
First 1000+ yards, 90 catches season coming in 2012 for Crabtree - book it.

with moss, manningham, Jenkins, James, and VD he won't get that many balls...crabs had a monopoly last year due to lack of options....won't have that problem this year

Those guys (except Vernon) will be learning a new playbook, so Crabtree will have an advantage over them. We will throw more passes this season, have longer drives, will have better understanding with Smith than last year, and won't have to learn a new playbook for the first time.

He is in for a breakout season...the crucial 3rd year for the WR (yes, I know it's his 4th in the league, but missed half of 1st season and then 3 straight off-seasons...so I count this season as his 3rd)

90 catches!!!
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
First 1000+ yards, 90 catches season coming in 2012 for Crabtree - book it.

with moss, manningham, Jenkins, James, and VD he won't get that many balls...crabs had a monopoly last year due to lack of options....won't have that problem this year

Those guys (except Vernon) will be learning a new playbook, so Crabtree will have an advantage over them. We will throw more passes this season, have longer drives, will have better understanding with Smith than last year, and won't have to learn a new playbook for the first time.

He is in for a breakout season...the crucial 3rd year for the WR (yes, I know it's his 4th in the league, but missed half of 1st season and then 3 straight off-seasons...so I count this season as his 3rd)

90 catches!!!

He has amazing potential it just needs to be brought out in him. Moss, Rice and the threat of a 1st round rookie showing him up should be enough.
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
...Randy Moss isn't that fast, it's only because Cunningham threw it to him all the time and Carter was drawing all the attention when he broke all those rookie records.





This is sarcasm right? Randy Moss was a track and field stud in college. Greased lightning. Dude can run.
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
^^ he may have larry fitz speed (well he isnt that fast) but no one has his work ethic

larry fitz may be best route runner in nfl and his size arm length height etc make him almost impossible to guard

crabtree is 3 inches smaller than fitz therefore must copinsate that lack of height with more speed


Seeing pictures of Fitz on the sidelines, during a game, practicing catching the ball over his head says a lot about his work ethic and commitment to improve. Not sure how many great players are harder workers than Fitzgerald. He has Rice-like dedication.
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
^^ he may have larry fitz speed (well he isnt that fast) but no one has his work ethic

larry fitz may be best route runner in nfl and his size arm length height etc make him almost impossible to guard

crabtree is 3 inches smaller than fitz therefore must copinsate that lack of height with more speed


Seeing pictures of Fitz on the sidelines, during a game, practicing catching the ball over his head says a lot about his work ethic and commitment to improve. Not sure how many great players are harder workers than Fitzgerald. He has Rice-like dedication.

This

Now we get to talk about Moss and Rice lining up against each other twice a year.
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
First 1000+ yards, 90 catches season coming in 2012 for Crabtree - book it.

with moss, manningham, Jenkins, James, and VD he won't get that many balls...crabs had a monopoly last year due to lack of options....won't have that problem this year

Those guys (except Vernon) will be learning a new playbook, so Crabtree will have an advantage over them. We will throw more passes this season, have longer drives, will have better understanding with Smith than last year, and won't have to learn a new playbook for the first time.

He is in for a breakout season...the crucial 3rd year for the WR (yes, I know it's his 4th in the league, but missed half of 1st season and then 3 straight off-seasons...so I count this season as his 3rd)

90 catches!!!

Moss wont have any problems learning a new system, and any issues should be figured out by games 4-5. I would guess 60-65 balls this year unless an injury KO a starter for us.
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
First 1000+ yards, 90 catches season coming in 2012 for Crabtree - book it.

with moss, manningham, Jenkins, James, and VD he won't get that many balls...crabs had a monopoly last year due to lack of options....won't have that problem this year

Those guys (except Vernon) will be learning a new playbook, so Crabtree will have an advantage over them. We will throw more passes this season, have longer drives, will have better understanding with Smith than last year, and won't have to learn a new playbook for the first time.

He is in for a breakout season...the crucial 3rd year for the WR (yes, I know it's his 4th in the league, but missed half of 1st season and then 3 straight off-seasons...so I count this season as his 3rd)

90 catches!!!

Moss wont have any problems learning a new system, and any issues should be figured out by games 4-5. I would guess 60-65 balls this year unless an injury KO a starter for us.

He is going to be entertaining for sure, even if he only has 2 per game.
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Eric Branch Blog link
His big-game vanishing act cant be dismissed, but it has overshadowed the fact that Crabtree, viewed by many as a top-10 draft bust, put up No. 1-wideout-worthy numbers during the final two-and-half months of 2011. In the seasons final 11 games, Crabtree had 61 catches for 742 yards and four touchdowns, which would translate to 89 catches for 1,079 yards and six touchdowns over a 16-game season.

During that stretch, Crabtree had more receptions than Arizonas Larry Fitzgerald, Kansas Citys Dwayne Bowe and then-Dolphins wideout Brandon Marshall had in their final 11 games. He also had more yards than Pittsburghs Mike Wallace and as many touchdowns as New Englands Wes Welker.

RECEPTIONS

1. Wes Welker, Patriots, 77

2. Percy Harvin, Vikings, 69

T3. Marques Colston, Saints, 68

T3. Roddy White, Falcons, 68

5. Calvin Johnson, Lions, 67

6. Victor Cruz, Giants, 63

7. Michael Crabtree, 49ers, 61

8. Dwayne Bowe, Chiefs, 58

T9. Larry Fitzgerald, Cardinals, 53

T9. Brandon Marshall, Dolphins, 53

11. Steve Smith, Panthers, 52
YARDS

1. Calvin Johnson, Lions, 1,230

2. Victor Cruz, Giants, 1,150

3. Larry Fitzgerald, Cardinals, 984

4. Jordy Nelson, Packers, 954

5. Roddy White, Falcons, 944

6. Wes Welker, Patriots, 829

7. Brandon Marshall, Dolphins, 792

8. Steve Smith, Panthers, 785

9. Hakeem Nicks, Giants, 780

10. Michael Crabtree, 49ers, 742

11. Mike Wallace, Steelers, 657
[ Edited by jimrat on May 26, 2012 at 9:34 PM ]
Originally posted by jimrat:
Eric Branch Blog link
His big-game vanishing act cant be dismissed, but it has overshadowed the fact that Crabtree, viewed by many as a top-10 draft bust, put up No. 1-wideout-worthy numbers during the final two-and-half months of 2011. In the seasons final 11 games, Crabtree had 61 catches for 742 yards and four touchdowns, which would translate to 89 catches for 1,079 yards and six touchdowns over a 16-game season.

During that stretch, Crabtree had more receptions than Arizonas Larry Fitzgerald, Kansas Citys Dwayne Bowe and then-Dolphins wideout Brandon Marshall had in their final 11 games. He also had more yards than Pittsburghs Mike Wallace and as many touchdowns as New Englands Wes Welker.

RECEPTIONS

1. Wes Welker, Patriots, 77

2. Percy Harvin, Vikings, 69

T3. Marques Colston, Saints, 68

T3. Roddy White, Falcons, 68

5. Calvin Johnson, Lions, 67

6. Victor Cruz, Giants, 63

7. Michael Crabtree, 49ers, 61

8. Dwayne Bowe, Chiefs, 58

T9. Larry Fitzgerald, Cardinals, 53

T9. Brandon Marshall, Dolphins, 53

11. Steve Smith, Panthers, 52
YARDS

1. Calvin Johnson, Lions, 1,230

2. Victor Cruz, Giants, 1,150

3. Larry Fitzgerald, Cardinals, 984

4. Jordy Nelson, Packers, 954

5. Roddy White, Falcons, 944

6. Wes Welker, Patriots, 829

7. Brandon Marshall, Dolphins, 792

8. Steve Smith, Panthers, 785

9. Hakeem Nicks, Giants, 780

10. Michael Crabtree, 49ers, 742

11. Mike Wallace, Steelers, 657

Damn, I mean that is kind of Jaw dropping given that analysis. Have we been too hard on old Crabs? Maybe so and it wasn't like he was ever a bad WR, just injured, wasn't on a winning team, and had put up middle of the road stats. Reading this though makes me think this kid might really be a top wide receiver and might live up to his draft position.