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Dobbs and Williams

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Who's Williams...

Mario
Dobbs, yes. I don't think we will have the room to fit Ian Williams though. Don't think he's got PS eligibility either.
Originally posted by DRUSTOPO:
I really like Dobbs and Tukuafu for the DE's, I think both can develop into starting 3-4 DE's. They seem to play the run well and can get pressure on the QB. They may not get many sacks, but were collapsing the pocket really well last preseason. Tukuafu did well when he got called up to The Show too. I think the team is really high on them both. Their moves on draft day may have proved that point.

Im not that high on Ian though since I think he's a little undersized for the 3-4 NT. I wouldnt mind seeing them bring in a big bodied NT to clog up the running lanes. You know who's a FA without a job right now? Someone on the downside of their career who knows a little something about playing NT for a 3-4 by the Bay? Aubrayo Franklin. I think he may be out of our price range though since Im sure he'd be looking for a mulit-year from someone. Even if he only gets one year, the Saints signed him to a 1 year $4 deal last year.

Here's a list of the rest of the FA DT's available =

Vonnie Holliday – ARI
DeMario Pressley – CAR
Anthony Adams – CHI
Nick Hayden – CIN (R)
Marcus Thomas – DEN
Ryan McBean – DEN
Howard Green – GB
Nate Collins – JAC
Kelly Gregg – KC
Eric Foster – IND
Phillip Merling – MIA
Remi Ayodele – MIN
Mike Wright – NE
Aubrayo Franklin – NO
Jimmy Kennedy – NYG
Rocky Bernard – NYG
Tommie Harris – SD
Gary Gibson – STL
Fred Robbins – STL
Albert Haynesworth – TB
Tony Brown – TEN

Nobody on that list stands out to me that will sign for the vet minimum.

We did pick up some other UDFA's to compete for the NT spot ( details from Bleacher Report ) =

Matt Masifilo = The former Stanford defensive end is well known to Jim Harbaugh and defensive coordinator Vic Fangio. At 6'3" and 300 lbs., Masifilo has the size to be an effective defensive lineman
Tony Jerod-Eddie = Tony Jerod-Eddie is a defensive tackle from Texas A&M. He is a big man at 6'4" and 305 lbs. and may be an ideal fit to back up Isaac Sopoaga at the nose tackle position.

Not sure why we didnt give Hebron Fangupo a call right after the draft. He seemed like an IDEAL 3-4 NT at 330, plus played in the 3-4 at BYU. I think the Texans ended up scooping him up.

Oh well, after the last two years, Ill never doubt the scouting that our FO does.

I agree, there is nobody on the list that would be part our DL rotation, but if we needed a NT for spot duty and for depth, Kelly Gregg would be a nice backup , Haynesworth is probably the best prospect on that list, but he is too much of a headache, and we all know he hates the 3-4 ...if he could get into good condition and be willing to play NT in a 3-4, I'm sure he could find some work ..but we all know that will never happen
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Who's Williams...

Mario






I like Dobbs and remember how he played in the preseason. I barely remember Ian Williams. So can't say either way.
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on May 2, 2012 at 9:39 AM ]
Sounds like a comic strip.
Originally posted by Joecool:
I have a feeling Dobbs is going to look very good this year.

This I like Dobbs a lot. I remember him running down that f*ggot Brees in the playoffs
Originally posted by nickbradley:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Tomsula has these boys whipped into shape and ready for anything (see RJF for McDonald last year). I wanted Alameda as well but of course, the Steelers nabbed him (and DeCastro - perfect fits/needs for their systems as well as ours). I would imagine NEXT year is the year we obtain a 2-gap NT and a RDE to groom and replace Justin Smith down the road.

The Steelers did not 'nab' Alameda -- we passed on him multiple times.

Even better stated. My boy and I wanted him badly. Sopoaga played very well last year but we REALLY need that two-gap NT who can also push the pocket back and make it difficult for QB's to step up to throw or avoid our outside pressure from Brooks/McDonald/Smith's.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by nickbradley:

The Steelers did not 'nab' Alameda -- we passed on him multiple times.

Even better stated. My boy and I wanted him badly. Sopoaga played very well last year but we REALLY need that two-gap NT who can also push the pocket back and make it difficult for QB's to step up to throw or avoid our outside pressure from Brooks/McDonald/Smith's.

Ta'amu apparently had a very poor performance at the Senior Bowl or one of the post season All-Star games. He struggled against some of the better All-Star D linemen in practice. I'm sure the Niners did their homework on him (including asking Tomsula what his take was) and finally decided not to invest a pick in him.

They may have thought that Ian Williams is better or has a higher ceiling or at this point, they don't really need to get this particular guy at this particular point. Pittsburgh liked him and that is my biggest concern.
Originally posted by NeeJ49er:
I agree, there is nobody on the list that would be part our DL rotation, but if we needed a NT for spot duty and for depth, Kelly Gregg would be a nice backup , Haynesworth is probably the best prospect on that list, but he is too much of a headache, and we all know he hates the 3-4 ...if he could get into good condition and be willing to play NT in a 3-4, I'm sure he could find some work ..but we all know that will never happen

So true
Dobbs is a lock, I think he and Aldon will be a good combo in the future. Williams will be fighting for a spot.
So have we got to the bottom of how tall Dobbs is? 6'6 or 6'2?
Originally posted by 602_JamestownAve:
So have we got to the bottom of how tall Dobbs is? 6'6 or 6'2?

6'2"
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Who's Williams...

Mario


Ian williams is a NT from Notre Dame that was supposed to be drafted round 3-5 in 2011 but was an UDFA. The Niners got lucky to get him, and kept him on the active roster so no one would take him.

I think Williams is more of a lock than Dobbs. Williams, Tukufu, RJF, the first two have 2 years on contract RJF one year. Dobbs would be PS. The Niners will only keep 6 DL this year as they will keep more rb's or WR's. Dobbs is odd man out as Williams is a more stout NT than RJF.
Originally posted by 9erred:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Who's Williams...

Mario


Ian williams is a NT from Notre Dame that was supposed to be drafted round 3-5 in 2011 but was an UDFA. The Niners got lucky to get him, and kept him on the active roster so no one would take him.

I think Williams is more of a lock than Dobbs. Williams, Tukufu, RJF, the first two have 2 years on contract RJF one year. Dobbs would be PS. The Niners will only keep 6 DL this year as they will keep more rb's or WR's. Dobbs is odd man out as Williams is a more stout NT than RJF.

How were we lucky to get him if he went undrafted? Anyway, I remember most analysts mentioning him as one of the better talents in the draft. Was he a trouble maker or something?
Originally posted by Joecool:
How were we lucky to get him if he went undrafted? Anyway, I remember most analysts mentioning him as one of the better talents in the draft. Was he a trouble maker or something?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/25/49ers-will-sign-former-notre-dame-nose-tackle-ian-williams/

Former Notre Dame defensive lineman Ian Williams was SI.com draft analyst Tony Pauline's No. 1-rated undrafted prospect entering the rookie free agent signing period Monday night.

On Monday evening, Williams informed PFT that he will sign with the San Francisco 49ers.

A 6-foot-1, 319-pound nose tackle, Williams was not selected in April's draft due to medical concerns. Williams missed four games with a knee injury as a senior, although he returned to play in the Sun Bowl against the Miami Hurricanes. He was also a full participant at February's Scouting Combine.

http://www.ninersnation.com/2011/7/26/2294328/top-2011-undrafted-free-agent-signings-by-position

Quick Take: San Francisco picking up both Ian Williams and Sealver Siliga really does lessen the pain of them reaching for two offensive linemen in the draft. Williams is going to be part of their rotation in 2011 and translates well to be a future starting NT in the NFL. That was an absolute steal.

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Joe, Im not really that high on Ian, but Ive been wrong before...actually MANY times before
[ Edited by DRUSTOPO on May 2, 2012 at 12:15 PM ]
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