Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
@jacklegniner, Trust me, you are in no way picking on me.
The only real fact that you have is that he gets injured, which happens to a lot of players.
-Was he not a top 10 pick? -Has his production been anything other than lack-luster relative to that top ten pick? -Has not his work ethic been a question? -Has not his route running been in question? -Has he not had a problem getting separation? - I guess those aren't facts.
The last 3 are facts but irrelevant to what your trying to prove.
I think you misunderstand me. I'm not trying to "prove" anything. I'm simply making points relative to this thread. That given the off-season thus far Crabs is in serious jeopardy of depth chart demotion.
The FO did sign WR's but they had to.
Oh? You think? Could the play of the WR corps have anythingto do with that? Could Crabs have anything to do with that?
You even said yourself that Crabtree has no competition.
I was refering to when Morgan went down and Edwards was sent out packing. During that time the coaching staff handed him the #1 spot on a golden platter with no one but Swain to threaten him, yet he he did nothing prove to the world why we picked him 10th overall.
We also drafted a wr at #30 but we drafted a OLB last year with Aldon and he didn't start either. You would think that the #7 pick would have more pressure to start over the #30.
So true. But here's the huge difference: In front of Aldon was a real bona fide starter ahead of him by the name of Parys Haralson. While we needed a pass rusher, we didn't need Aldon to start right away. (1st rounders are starters no later than by year two.) Haralson may not be the elite passusher we hoped (though he did flash at times) but he was a solid starter and very good against the run. When Crabs was drafted it was expected by all that he would be THE "go to" WR because, frankly, we just didn't have a "go to" WR. We badly needed - and still do need - a go-to WR. Hense A. J. Jenkins.
And...again, if Crabtree was so bad how did he lead the team in stats? If he was given the job because the other guys were terrible, then wouldn't we have to sign guys in FA and the draft? If he had piss poor production, lazy work ethic, not into the playbook, and wasn't able to get seperation, how did he beat VD in stats, who has better chemistry with Alex and is Alex's favorite target?
Allow me to answer that with a question: If Crabs is our clear primary WR then why did Baalke and JH feel the need to bring in 3 WR FA's and draft a WR with our 1st pick?
It's all good! I can see we are not going to agree on much of this.
To the 1st question. Yes it is a fact that he was drafted in the top 10. But then you added on some other things to your statement like a "politician trying to pass a bill." I don't agree with any of the lack luster/ work ethic comments you made. If they are comments from webzoners than yeah I have heard them, but if they are comments from other team-mates or coaches, then I would consider it, but they are far from facts.
2nd, I guess every player, every year is in jeopardy of losing their starting job. That's the nature of the NFL. People like you though have been calling for his job every year or that we would trade him or now that it's a new regime they would care about his draft status but at the end of the day, coaches and players give him high praise, and he has been our leading wr since he got here.
3rd, I don't see the point. Yes they had to sign more wr's. Even if Crabtree put up Andre Johnson numbers they would still have had to sign more guys. Crabs and VD still did their part by putting up good stats. Edwards and Morgan got hurt and the other guys didn't do much. It's funny how Edwards and Morgan get looked over for getting hurt but when it comes to Crabtree, it's because he's lazy... yet the guy still led the team and he played hurt all year.
4th, how are we justifying who the staff considers who is #1, where they line up on the field??? At the end of the day I look at the production on the field. Crabtree has been our best guy every year he has been here.
5th, wr's take time to develop and Crabs has had a history of injury. It's sucks but it's the truth. Like someone else said, VD didn't get his crap together until his 4th year. Now everyone loves him. I think our offense is different than other teams. People want Calvin Johnson numbers out of Crabs but our offense doesn't pass nearly as much as Detroit, Green Bay or NO, etc... If Alex only threw for 3000 yards, how can Crabtree put up CJ stats. VD and Crabs already make up 50% of our passing offense. It's the other guys that aren't getting it done.
And the answer to your question although you dodged mine...
We brought in more Wr's because they other guys suck. If we have more playmakers than VD won't get double teamed all the time and Gore won't get 8 guys in the box. If Randy, Crabs, VD and Mario are on the field at the same time we should have some favorable one on one matchups. We drove down the field just fine in the regular season but we had problems in the redzone. We simply need more playmakers on the field to replace the Ginn's, Swains, Morgans, Hastings, and Edwards.