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Post-Draft 53 Man Roster

Here's how I see it. The number in paranthesis is the minimum number at the position that we keep. Also, this isn't a depth chart.

QB (3) - Smith as the starter with Johnson, Kaepernick, and Tolzien battling for two spots. Johnson, Kaepernick make it. Tolzien to the practice squad if possible.
OT (3) - Davis, Staley, Boone
OG/C (5) - Goodwin, Iupati, Kilgore, Looney with Beeler, Person, and Slowey competing for the last spot. I think Slowey gets it.
TE (3) - Byham, Davis, Walker
WR (4) - Crabtree, Jenkins, Manningham, Moss
RB/FB (4) - Gore, Hunter, James, Miller
DL (6) - Jean Francois, McDonald, Smith, Sopoaga with Dobbs, Tukuafu, and Williams competing for two spots. Dobbs and Tukuafu make it.
ILB (4) - Bowman, Gooden, Grant, Willis
OLB (4) - Brooks and Smith with Haralson, Fleming and Johnson competing for two spots. Haralson and Fleming make it.
S (4) - Goldson, Spillman, Robinson, and Whitner
CB (4) - Brown, Culliver, and Rogers with Brock, Holcomb, Nelms, and Cox competing for 1 spot. Brock gets it.

ST (5) - Akers, Ginn Jr., Jennings, and Lee with Cartwright and Colin Jones competing. Cartwright gets it.

You'll notice that only adds up to 49 spots. That leads to 4 spots up for grabs among the following:

Dixon
Jacobs
Kyle Williams
Beeler
Person
Ian Williams
Cam Johnson
Holcomb
Nelms
Cox
Colin Jones

I see those last 4 spots going to: Jacobs, Ian Williams, Cox, and Colin Jones (Jacobs and Cox I feel strongly about, the other two, not so much). But it will be a dogfight for those last few spots. That would leave Beeler, Person, Cam Johnson, Curtis Holcomb, and Cory Nelms on the practice squad.
MUCH rather keep Tolzien than JJ. I've NEVER been impressed w/him.
Originally posted by jb49ers80:
Here's how I see it. The number in paranthesis is the minimum number at the position that we keep. Also, this isn't a depth chart.

QB (3) - Smith as the starter with Johnson, Kaepernick, and Tolzien battling for two spots. Johnson, Kaepernick make it. Tolzien to the practice squad if possible.
OT (3) - Davis, Staley, Boone
OG/C (5) - Goodwin, Iupati, Kilgore, Looney with Beeler, Person, and Slowey competing for the last spot. I think Slowey gets it.
TE (3) - Byham, Davis, Walker
WR (4) - Crabtree, Jenkins, Manningham, Moss
RB/FB (4) - Gore, Hunter, James, Miller
DL (6) - Jean Francois, McDonald, Smith, Sopoaga with Dobbs, Tukuafu, and Williams competing for two spots. Dobbs and Tukuafu make it.
ILB (4) - Bowman, Gooden, Grant, Willis
OLB (4) - Brooks and Smith with Haralson, Fleming and Johnson competing for two spots. Haralson and Fleming make it.
S (4) - Goldson, Spillman, Robinson, and Whitner
CB (4) - Brown, Culliver, and Rogers with Brock, Holcomb, Nelms, and Cox competing for 1 spot. Brock gets it.

ST (5) - Akers, Ginn Jr., Jennings, and Lee with Cartwright and Colin Jones competing. Cartwright gets it.

You'll notice that only adds up to 49 spots. That leads to 4 spots up for grabs among the following:

Dixon
Jacobs
Kyle Williams
Beeler
Person
Ian Williams
Cam Johnson
Holcomb
Nelms
Cox
Colin Jones

I see those last 4 spots going to: Jacobs, Ian Williams, Cox, and Colin Jones (Jacobs and Cox I feel strongly about, the other two, not so much). But it will be a dogfight for those last few spots. That would leave Beeler, Person, Cam Johnson, Curtis Holcomb, and Cory Nelms on the practice squad.

Here's my latest crack at it . . .


PROJECTED 53 MAN ROSTER

QB (3): Alex Smith, Colin Kaepernick, Josh Johnson,
RB (5): Frank Gore, Bruce Miller, Kendall Hunter, LaMichael James, Brandon Jacobs
WR (6): Michael Crabtree, Randy Moss, Mario Manningham, A.J. Jenkins, Kyle Williams, Ted Ginn
TE (3): Vernon Davis, Delanie Walker, Nate Byham
OL (9): Joe Staley, Anthony Davis, Mike Iupati, Jonathan Goodwin, Alex Boone, Daniel Kilgore, Mike Person, Joe Looney, Jason Slowey

DL (6): Justin Smith, Ray McDonald, Isaac Sopoaga, Ricky Jean-Francios, Will Tukuafu, Demarcus Dobbs (or Ian Williams)
LB (8): Patrick Willis, NaVorrow Bowman, Aldon Smith, Ahmad Brooks, Parys Haralson, Larry Grant, Tavares Gooden, Cam Johnson
CB (5): Carlos Rogers, Tarell Brown, Chris Culliver, Perrish Cox, Tramaine Brock
S (5): Dashon Goldson, Donte Whitner, C.J. Spillman, Colin Jones, Trenton Robinson

ST (3): David Akers, Andy Lee, Brian Jennings


The way I looked at it the last spot came down to Kyle Williams, Ian Williams or Rock Cartwright. I went with Kyle Williams. In spite of his last game I think he's going to end up having a very good career as a WR.


Notable Cuts
Rock Cartwright-RB
Ian Williams-DT
Anthony Dixon-RB

Special Teams Return/Coverage Corps
Ted Ginn (#1 Return)
Perrish Cox (#2 Returner)
Larry Grant
Tavares Gooden
Parys Haralson
C.J. Spillman
Colin Jones
Chris Culliver
Delanie Walker
Bruce Miller
Nate Byham

Game Day Inactives
Josh Johnson
Joe Looney
Jason Slowey
Demarcus Dobbs
Cam Johnson
Trenton Robinson
Tramaine Brock

Practice Squad
Scott Tolzien-QB
Chris Owusu-WR
Nate Palmer-WR
Konrad Reuland-TE
Chase Beeler-C
Ian Williams-DT
Michael Thomas-S
Curtis Holcomb – CB
[ Edited by SonocoNinerFan on Jun 6, 2012 at 10:28 PM ]
Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
Here's my latest crack at it . . .


PROJECTED 53 MAN ROSTER

QB (3): Alex Smith, Colin Kaepernick, Josh Johnson,
RB (5): Frank Gore, Bruce Miller, Kendall Hunter, LaMichael James, Brandon Jacobs
WR (6): Michael Crabtree, Randy Moss, Mario Manningham, A.J. Jenkins, Kyle Williams, Ted Ginn
TE (3): Vernon Davis, Delanie Walker, Nate Byham
OL (9): Joe Staley, Anthony Davis, Mike Iupati, Jonathan Goodwin, Alex Boone, Daniel Kilgore, Mike Person, Joe Looney, Jason Slowey

DL (6): Justin Smith, Ray McDonald, Isaac Sopoaga, Ricky Jean-Francios, Will Tukuafu, Demarcus Dobbs (or Ian Williams)
LB (8): Patrick Willis, NaVorrow Bowman, Aldon Smith, Ahmad Brooks, Parys Haralson, Larry Grant, Tavares Gooden, Cam Johnson
CB (5): Carlos Rogers, Tarell Brown, Chris Culliver, Perrish Cox, Tramaine Brock
S (5): Dashon Goldson, Donte Whitner, C.J. Spillman, Colin Jones, Trenton Robinson

ST (3): David Akers, Andy Lee, Brian Jennings

Notable Cuts
Rock Cartwright-RB
Anthony Dixon-RB

Special Teams Return/Coverage Corps
Ted Ginn (#1 Return)
Perrish Cox (#2 Returner)
Larry Grant
Tavares Gooden
Parys Haralson
C.J. Spillman
Colin Jones
Chris Culliver
Delanie Walker
Nate Byham

Game Day Inactives
Josh Johnson
Joe Looney
Jason Slowey
Demarcus Dobbs
Cam Johnson
Trenton Robinson
Tramaine Brock

Practice Squad
Scott Tolzien-QB
Chris Owusu-WR
Nate Palmer-WR
Konrad Reuland-TE
Chase Beeler-C
Ian Williams-DT
Michael Thomas-S
Curtis Holcomb – CB

Not bad. Still gonna be tough to keep Haralson at his $2.88M figure. I would cut Williams and keep Cartwright, I just feel Cartwright will be our Costanzo this year.

Also why Mike Person active over Looney? I would think Looney is active, of course if healthy.

I think it comes down roster wise to a 9th OL or 7th DL. 6th WR or an extra RB, interesting offseason and training camp to come, should be fun, can't wait.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Not bad. Still gonna be tough to keep Haralson at his $2.88M figure. I would cut Williams and keep Cartwright, I just feel Cartwright will be our Costanzo this year.

Also why Mike Person active over Looney? I would think Looney is active, of course if healthy.

I think it comes down roster wise to a 9th OL or 7th DL. 6th WR or an extra RB, interesting offseason and training camp to come, should be fun, can't wait.

I think Haralson's salary is a relatively cheap insurance policy to make sure we're not one unfortunate play away from a 7th rounder starting at a critical position. As far as Person vs Looney, Person has more experience at OT and we'll already have Kilgore active as an interior back-up.

Agreed . . . can't wait!
Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Not bad. Still gonna be tough to keep Haralson at his $2.88M figure. I would cut Williams and keep Cartwright, I just feel Cartwright will be our Costanzo this year.

Also why Mike Person active over Looney? I would think Looney is active, of course if healthy.

I think it comes down roster wise to a 9th OL or 7th DL. 6th WR or an extra RB, interesting offseason and training camp to come, should be fun, can't wait.

I think Haralson's salary is a relatively cheap insurance policy to make sure we're not one unfortunate play away from a 7th rounder starting at a critical position. As far as Person vs Looney, Person has more experience at OT and we'll already have Kilgore active as an interior back-up.

Agreed . . . can't wait!

True. I wouldn't be surprised if we add a vet like Leonard Davis or Jason Brown, who can play both OG and OT.
  • cools
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with the additions of Robinson and Cox, both reported to be good special teams players
I see C.Jones roster spot expendable

Williams takes that spot

I agree there may be a vet OL added, Slowey can probably be stashed on the PS
Im still not a fan of Boone at RG, but hopefully thats just till Looney is ready to take over

Byham may not have that 3rd TE spot so easy, Reuland may steal it
Could the Niners go with just Davis and Walker, and train Dobbs as the 3rd TE?
while stashing Reuland on the PS

Most likely to get fake injury and protected on IR till 2013- RB J.Hampton

Cartwright makes the 53, and will take over Costanzo's job as ST captain

QB/3 Smith, JJ, Kap (Tolz to PS)
RB/4 Gore, James, Jacobs, Hunter (Hampton to PS)
FB/1 Miller
TE/3 Davis, Walker, Reuland (Byham to PuP)
WR/6 Crabs, Manningham, Moss, Jenkins, Ginn, Williams ( Palmer to PS)
OL/9 Staley, Iupati, Goodwin, Boone, Davis, Kilgore, Looney, Person, Vet ( Slowey and Hall to PS)


S/4 Goldson, Whitner, Spillman, Robinson (Thomas to PS)
CB/5 Rogers, Brown, Culliver, Cox, Brock
OLB/4 Smith, Brooks, Haralson, Johnson
ILB/4 Willis, Bowman, Grant, Gooden (Holland to PS)
DL/6 Smith, Sopo, McDonald, RJF, Tukuafu, Dobbs (Jerod-Eddie to PS)

ST/4 Cartwright, Akers, Lee, Jennings
Wow, you folks who want to keep Cartwright over K. Williams must hold huge grudges. Have you been reading the multiple reports that Williams looks no worse than the 3rd best receiver in this off-season? Get over your bruised feelings regarding the NFCC game. Luckily, the coaches are not so sensitive.
  • cciowa
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Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Wow, you folks who want to keep Cartwright over K. Williams must hold huge grudges. Have you been reading the multiple reports that Williams looks no worse than the 3rd best receiver in this off-season? Get over your bruised feelings regarding the NFCC game. Luckily, the coaches are not so sensitive.
I have no grudge vs williams and i know i am in the silent majority. However i think the rock will stick if it comes to he vs williams. The rock just has more versatility, he could be the captain of special teams , he is a backup fullback, he is a backup punt and kick returner and a fine fine vet in the locker room. i hope they keep both but since you asked,, the ability of cartwright to do soooo many things well would give him a nod over williams. due to his youth and his special teams ability,i think its best for the team for dixon to beat out jacobs but i have little faith in that
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Originally posted by AB83Rules:
True. I wouldn't be surprised if we add a vet like Leonard Davis or Jason Brown, who can play both OG and OT.

i would like ;kyle kosier but your idea would make me feel soooooo much better about the line,, that is a huge worry for me
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Wow, you folks who want to keep Cartwright over K. Williams must hold huge grudges. Have you been reading the multiple reports that Williams looks no worse than the 3rd best receiver in this off-season? Get over your bruised feelings regarding the NFCC game. Luckily, the coaches are not so sensitive.

Not a grudge, just that Williams wont be active on game days, so no need for a 6th WR, when Cartwright will help better for us, like Costanzo did.

Originally posted by cools:
with the additions of Robinson and Cox, both reported to be good special teams players
I see C.Jones roster spot expendable

Williams takes that spot

I agree there may be a vet OL added, Slowey can probably be stashed on the PS
Im still not a fan of Boone at RG, but hopefully thats just till Looney is ready to take over

Byham may not have that 3rd TE spot so easy, Reuland may steal it
Could the Niners go with just Davis and Walker, and train Dobbs as the 3rd TE?
while stashing Reuland on the PS

Most likely to get fake injury and protected on IR till 2013- RB J.Hampton

Cartwright makes the 53, and will take over Costanzo's job as ST captain

QB/3 Smith, JJ, Kap (Tolz to PS)
RB/4 Gore, James, Jacobs, Hunter (Hampton to PS)
FB/1 Miller
TE/3 Davis, Walker, Reuland (Byham to PuP)
WR/6 Crabs, Manningham, Moss, Jenkins, Ginn, Williams ( Palmer to PS)
OL/9 Staley, Iupati, Goodwin, Boone, Davis, Kilgore, Looney, Person, Vet ( Slowey and Hall to PS)


S/4 Goldson, Whitner, Spillman, Robinson (Thomas to PS)
CB/5 Rogers, Brown, Culliver, Cox, Brock
OLB/4 Smith, Brooks, Haralson, Johnson
ILB/4 Willis, Bowman, Grant, Gooden (Holland to PS)
DL/6 Smith, Sopo, McDonald, RJF, Tukuafu, Dobbs (Jerod-Eddie to PS)

ST/4 Cartwright, Akers, Lee, Jennings

I think Colin Jones makes it, Like above no need for a 6th WR. Also Owusu I would imagine makes the PS along with Palmer.

I would do this PS, as long as they pass waivers.

RB Jewell Hampton
WR Chris Owusu
WR Nathan Palmer
C Chase Beeler (Jason Slowey if we sign a vet and cut Slowey)
OT Derek Hall
DL Tony Jerod-Eddie
OLB Joe Holland
CB Curtis Holcomb
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Wow, you folks who want to keep Cartwright over K. Williams must hold huge grudges. Have you been reading the multiple reports that Williams looks no worse than the 3rd best receiver in this off-season? Get over your bruised feelings regarding the NFCC game. Luckily, the coaches are not so sensitive.

Not a grudge, just that Williams wont be active on game days, so no need for a 6th WR, when Cartwright will help better for us, like Costanzo did.

AB,
You're saying release perhaps the third best receiver and last year's backup returner in favor of a 32-year old, 7th Round, 5'8", 215 lb backup fullback (see W. Tukuafu) and the replacement of a guy the Niners cut. Grudge.
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Wow, you folks who want to keep Cartwright over K. Williams must hold huge grudges. Have you been reading the multiple reports that Williams looks no worse than the 3rd best receiver in this off-season? Get over your bruised feelings regarding the NFCC game. Luckily, the coaches are not so sensitive.

These are OTAs. Williams only chokes when the pressure is on
Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Wow, you folks who want to keep Cartwright over K. Williams must hold huge grudges. Have you been reading the multiple reports that Williams looks no worse than the 3rd best receiver in this off-season? Get over your bruised feelings regarding the NFCC game. Luckily, the coaches are not so sensitive.

These are OTAs. Williams only chokes when the pressure is on