Originally posted by Marvin49:
Point?
compeition he played was horrible
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Mar 23, 2012 at 12:50 PM
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compeition he played was horrible
Mar 23, 2012 at 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by Marvin49:dude he played in UCSD not only have they ever been ranked they are not a competitive football school at all i know i go here for school
When he's going back to the collage coach and system that helped him PRODUCE those numbers? HELL FREAKIN' YES!!!
Would Alex Smith have played better as a young player if he had run Urban Meyers Spread Offense? Would Kaepernick be better now if he was still running the Pistol?
Look, I'm not saying he's the next superstar QB of the NFL. I'm sayin' that they guy has some serious tools and the last time he played with Harbaugh he was lights out.
Any other questions?
Point?
...and I think it's USD.
its so easy a caveman could do it
Mar 23, 2012 at 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Point?
compeition he played was horrible
Tell that to Jerry Rice, Ben Roethlisberger, or Steve McNair.
Again...I'm not saying he's a sure fire star. I'm saying calling him a "scrub" or "nothing better than a backup" completely misses the point. He has the tools and a CHANCE to be very, very good.
[ Edited by Marvin49 on Mar 23, 2012 at 12:53 PM ]
Mar 23, 2012 at 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by Marvin49:dude he played in UCSD not only have they ever been ranked they are not a competitive football school at all i know i go here for school
When he's going back to the collage coach and system that helped him PRODUCE those numbers? HELL FREAKIN' YES!!!
Would Alex Smith have played better as a young player if he had run Urban Meyers Spread Offense? Would Kaepernick be better now if he was still running the Pistol?
Look, I'm not saying he's the next superstar QB of the NFL. I'm sayin' that they guy has some serious tools and the last time he played with Harbaugh he was lights out.
Any other questions?
Point?
...and I think it's USD.
I just looked it up. LOL
Dude, do you go to UCSD or USD. They are different schools. I would HOPE you would know that.
Mar 23, 2012 at 12:56 PM
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Josh Johnson said today he wasn't given any promises about playing time or where he falls in the 49ers' quarterback hierarchy. Instead, he said he was assured he'd get enough practice repetitions to develop as a quarterback. And with Jim Harbaugh as a mentor, he knows that development will take place.Read more here: http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2012/03/johnson-wants-to-continue-his-development-under-harbaugh.html#storylink=cpy
Mar 23, 2012 at 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by Marvin49:
I just looked it up. LOL
Dude, do you go to UCSD or USD. They are different schools. I would HOPE you would know that.
UCSD lol
ok USD lol that makes compeition a bit better
Mar 23, 2012 at 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by defenderDX:
This dude is hot Garbage.....
Mar 23, 2012 at 1:00 PM
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Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
I just looked it up. LOL
Dude, do you go to UCSD or USD. They are different schools. I would HOPE you would know that.
UCSD lol
ok USD lol that makes compeition a bit better
I got your point tho. No, it wasn't the best competition....and thats why he was taken later in the draft and not 1st overall.
I'm just sayin....WATCH the kid. SCARY athletic. SMOOTH. Good arm. He's got a chance. He's taking almost nothing in terms of $$$ because he wanted to get back to Harbaugh.
Mar 23, 2012 at 1:01 PM
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Originally posted by Ninerbowl6:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
This dude is hot Garbage.....
SMH.
People never learn.
I'll bet you did no research any farther than look at his Pro Stat line.
Mar 23, 2012 at 1:12 PM
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Mar 23, 2012 at 1:17 PM
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Analysis Strengths
Positives: Has a lean, angular frame that needs to add more bulk, but shows no loss in quickness after increasing his weight by 10 pounds from his junior to senior seasons... Has a tight abdomen, toned thighs and calves, adequate arm length and minimal body fat...Quick, mobile scrambler with above average balance and body control to make all the throws when on the move...Possesses that second gear needed to elude when rushing past the line of scrimmage and the vision to locate the cutback lanes... Very smooth in his retreat from center to his throwing point, demonstrating the slide-and-adjust agility to step up in the pocket or roll out to avoid pressure...Shows very good knee bend and the ability to weave through traffic, making a good effort to provide ball security before heading up field...Capable of handling the mental aspect of the game, as he makes all of the required reads and checks to excel in a pass-oriented offense...Won't hesitate to square his shoulders and drive his legs to gain tough yardage up the middle rather than passively head to the sidelines to avoid any contact...Doesn't force the ball into traffic and can keep defenses honest with his long-range arm strength or ability to weave in and out of traffic as a ball carrier...With his body control, agility and hip flexibility, he is quick driving back from center, doing a nice job of setting his feet in either 3-step or 5-step drops...Gets to his throwing point fluidly and has the balance to make all the throws on the run...Nimble and agile rolling out of the pocket and has the balance to step up and avoid pocket pressure...While patient waiting for the plays to develop, he is not the type who will hold on to the ball too long and then try to force the action to make the play, as he knows when he needs to throw the ball away...Demonstrates the compact delivery and throwing motion, along with the wrist flick, to get the ball out cleanly and quickly. He has a compact motion, holding the ball chest-high to execute a fluid three-quarter release...Seems more comfortable airing the ball out, rather than playing dink-and-dunk with a short-area passing game (accuracy is a bit off on screens, wheel routes)...Effective at throwing ropes 40 yards downfield with ease...Accurate throwing from the pocket and has the balance to also make those throws on the move...Consistent setting his feet and shows good mechanics delivering the ball on time...Likes to air the ball out more than stay underneath, as he knows how to get the ball to his targets in stride rather than have them wait or come back for it...Keeps his cool under pressure and knows that when all else fails, he has the feet to step up and avoid the pocket pressure...Stands tough under duress and shows confidence in his ability to execute the play...Patient waiting for plays to develop and does a very good job with ball security...Vocal on the field, demonstrating a little bit of Brett Favre with his bravado...Capable of getting big yardage with his feet and is a dangerous threat running with the ball...As a ballcarrier, he shows good strength and body lean to gain additional yardage after the initial hit and is conscious of protecting the ball and shielding it from the defenders...Builds to top acceleration nicely and is alert to coverages (won't run into spots too often)...Knows how to get the ball to his deep targets over their outside shoulder without the receiver having to adjust.
Negatives: Needs to add more bulk and has just adequate height for a drop-back position, but does a good job of scanning the field and his mobility could be an asset in a spread offense...Must work on his timing a bit (needs to take a bit off those tosses to make it easier for the receiver to secure without having to adjust), but has the vision to scan the field and make good progression reads...Gets the ball through the throwing arc well and has a lively arm, but needs to learn how to vary his speed at times (puts too much zip on his short throws)...Has good arm strength, but when he fails to set his feet properly, his throws will wobble...Has not faced as many complex defenses as he will experience in the NFL, but he shows good anticipation and timing making all of his throws.
Compares To: RANDALL CUNNINGHAM-ex-Philadelphia (1986-95), Minnesota (97-99), Dallas (2000), Baltimore (2001)...Like Cunningham, Johnson's athletic ability separates him from the rest of this quarterback crop. He is not as big or strong as Randall, but has the same body control, balance and scrambling ability that forces defenses to account for not only his arm, but also his feet. He will need to add more bulk to compete at the next level, but with his developing arm strength and excellent vision, he would be an ideal fit for a West Coast/spread offense.
Positives: Has a lean, angular frame that needs to add more bulk, but shows no loss in quickness after increasing his weight by 10 pounds from his junior to senior seasons... Has a tight abdomen, toned thighs and calves, adequate arm length and minimal body fat...Quick, mobile scrambler with above average balance and body control to make all the throws when on the move...Possesses that second gear needed to elude when rushing past the line of scrimmage and the vision to locate the cutback lanes... Very smooth in his retreat from center to his throwing point, demonstrating the slide-and-adjust agility to step up in the pocket or roll out to avoid pressure...Shows very good knee bend and the ability to weave through traffic, making a good effort to provide ball security before heading up field...Capable of handling the mental aspect of the game, as he makes all of the required reads and checks to excel in a pass-oriented offense...Won't hesitate to square his shoulders and drive his legs to gain tough yardage up the middle rather than passively head to the sidelines to avoid any contact...Doesn't force the ball into traffic and can keep defenses honest with his long-range arm strength or ability to weave in and out of traffic as a ball carrier...With his body control, agility and hip flexibility, he is quick driving back from center, doing a nice job of setting his feet in either 3-step or 5-step drops...Gets to his throwing point fluidly and has the balance to make all the throws on the run...Nimble and agile rolling out of the pocket and has the balance to step up and avoid pocket pressure...While patient waiting for the plays to develop, he is not the type who will hold on to the ball too long and then try to force the action to make the play, as he knows when he needs to throw the ball away...Demonstrates the compact delivery and throwing motion, along with the wrist flick, to get the ball out cleanly and quickly. He has a compact motion, holding the ball chest-high to execute a fluid three-quarter release...Seems more comfortable airing the ball out, rather than playing dink-and-dunk with a short-area passing game (accuracy is a bit off on screens, wheel routes)...Effective at throwing ropes 40 yards downfield with ease...Accurate throwing from the pocket and has the balance to also make those throws on the move...Consistent setting his feet and shows good mechanics delivering the ball on time...Likes to air the ball out more than stay underneath, as he knows how to get the ball to his targets in stride rather than have them wait or come back for it...Keeps his cool under pressure and knows that when all else fails, he has the feet to step up and avoid the pocket pressure...Stands tough under duress and shows confidence in his ability to execute the play...Patient waiting for plays to develop and does a very good job with ball security...Vocal on the field, demonstrating a little bit of Brett Favre with his bravado...Capable of getting big yardage with his feet and is a dangerous threat running with the ball...As a ballcarrier, he shows good strength and body lean to gain additional yardage after the initial hit and is conscious of protecting the ball and shielding it from the defenders...Builds to top acceleration nicely and is alert to coverages (won't run into spots too often)...Knows how to get the ball to his deep targets over their outside shoulder without the receiver having to adjust.
Negatives: Needs to add more bulk and has just adequate height for a drop-back position, but does a good job of scanning the field and his mobility could be an asset in a spread offense...Must work on his timing a bit (needs to take a bit off those tosses to make it easier for the receiver to secure without having to adjust), but has the vision to scan the field and make good progression reads...Gets the ball through the throwing arc well and has a lively arm, but needs to learn how to vary his speed at times (puts too much zip on his short throws)...Has good arm strength, but when he fails to set his feet properly, his throws will wobble...Has not faced as many complex defenses as he will experience in the NFL, but he shows good anticipation and timing making all of his throws.
Compares To: RANDALL CUNNINGHAM-ex-Philadelphia (1986-95), Minnesota (97-99), Dallas (2000), Baltimore (2001)...Like Cunningham, Johnson's athletic ability separates him from the rest of this quarterback crop. He is not as big or strong as Randall, but has the same body control, balance and scrambling ability that forces defenses to account for not only his arm, but also his feet. He will need to add more bulk to compete at the next level, but with his developing arm strength and excellent vision, he would be an ideal fit for a West Coast/spread offense.
Mar 23, 2012 at 1:18 PM
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Originally posted by RonMexico:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d8135237f/WK-5-Josh-Johnson-highlights
Mar 23, 2012 at 1:23 PM
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Originally posted by RonMexico:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d8135237f/WK-5-Josh-Johnson-highlights
cant handle the blitz
Mar 23, 2012 at 1:24 PM
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Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by RonMexico:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d8135237f/WK-5-Josh-Johnson-highlights
cant handle the blitz
He can developed that. How about working on that 8 fumbles.
Mar 23, 2012 at 1:25 PM
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by RonMexico:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d8135237f/WK-5-Josh-Johnson-highlights
cant handle the blitz
He can developed that. How about working on that 8 fumbles.
He looks fast we should change him to WR.