Why did we overpay so much for Brooks? And where does that leave us now?

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by baltien:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:
yeah someone help me out.. where does this leave us in cap space??? does it take out 7mil out of our 30mil cap space?? so now we are left with 23mil?

Nah, we gotta pay the whole 44.5 mil up front.

so he mad but dont even know why? im pretty sure the exec of the year and coach of the year like what they see. and all parties feel it was worth it.
but thanks for the laughs lol

You shouldn't be allowed to start threads.

You can learn a whole lot more by reading than writing. I encourage posters to spend more time reading other people's posts (especially guys like AB, Marvin, GOTD, OTC, NCommand, Oldman9er, etc). Do internet searches on things if you aren't sure of them.... you can learn a lot by researching. And with contracts always take a step back and wait for the details... players hardly ever get the full contract. It's just a number.... 1st thing to look at is the signing bonus and that's the only thing guaranteed to start with.

As of right now AB says he will account for 4.25 million dollars on the cap. 17.5 bonus/6 years (length of contract) equals 3.5 a year on the cap for the bonus... plus he has a 750,000 dollar base salary. And also, Paraag is one of the best in the business. He knows how to manipulate contracts to help us out in with the cap.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I'm glad to have him back too. But an average OLB is not worth $44 million.... How do we plan on signing these guys now?


~ Alex Smith - ascending albeit not great. 2nd year players are much worse than him. Don't kid yourself.

~ Dashon Goldson - Turned down 5 years and $25 million last year before his monster year. Will be espensive this year.

~ Carlos Rogers - Would love to have him back. But huge money for a 31 year old CB doesn't make sense.

~ Adam Snyder - Have you seen Chilo play? Don't think this guy is important?.....

~ Ted Ginn - Have you seen Kyle Williams try to return kicks? Do you think going into 2012 with KW as your primary return man is a good idea?.....


With the massive overpayment to Brooks now multiple of these may not be able to be signed. I just don't know what the front office was thinking? The highest sacks he ever had was 7. The highest tackes he ever had was 49. You explain it to me?

IMO he's a product of the players around him. Justin Smith and Aldon Smith are beasts. And Ray McDonald is hugely underrated. Sopoaga is good. Willis is great. Bowman is good. He's in a phenemonal front 7. And the attention is put to other guys. I just don't think he is $44 million good. And it has future salary cap implications. I'm fine with keeping our players. But I don't think that means massively overpay. We could have made OLB a priority in the draft too and picked up Vincent Jackson or Bowe with the money. I just don't know about this deal. Glad to have him back? Yes. At this price? No way.

Maiocco is reporting that the first year cap hit of the Brooks contract is $2.85MM.

So, Brooks is taking up less than $3MM of the cap this season.

Originally posted by okdkid:
Maiocco is reporting that the first year cap hit of the Brooks contract is $2.85MM.

So, Brooks is taking up less than $3MM of the cap this season.

OH NOES WE OVERPAID HIM

Originally posted by okdkid:
Maiocco is reporting that the first year cap hit of the Brooks contract is $2.85MM.

So, Brooks is taking up less than $3MM of the cap this season.

Maiocco is WRONG. HE WILL COST US 44.5 MILLION ON THE CAPZ!!! WE ARE BACK IN SALARY CAP HELLZ!!!

In all seriousness though if he is making like 3 on the cap this year, I would bet year 5 and 6 (or at least 6 he will be making an outrageous number as I am thinking it is backloaded meaning he will probably be cut then. A lot of guys will make 3-5 million in the 1st years and then it goes up every year and then those last years which they probably won't see they make an outrageous # like 15-17 million.

Originally posted by vrabbit:

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Ugh. Here we go.

classic SD thread, classic job of feeding him by everyone else

webzone classic

sd classic for sure, idk about a webzone classic those normally die out then come back like a jason movie.

Originally posted by Gore_21:
You can learn a whole lot more by reading than writing. I encourage posters to spend more time reading other people's posts (especially guys like AB, Marvin, GOTD, OTC, etc). Do internet searches on things if you aren't sure of them.... you can learn a lot by researching. And with contracts always take a step back and wait for the details... players hardly ever get the full contract. It's just a number.... 1st thing to look at is the signing bonus and that's the only thing guaranteed to start with.

As of right now AB says he will account for 4.25 million dollars on the cap. 17.5 bonus/6 years (length of contract) equals 3.5 a year on the cap for the bonus... plus he has a 750,000 dollar base salary. And also, Paraag is one of the best in the business. He knows how to manipulate contracts to help us out in with the cap.

I'd include you as a must-read as well. And you specifically pin-pointed guys are are VERY good on this topic. SD, you have great resources in front of you. Feel free to take that extra step and access them before you jump to reactionary conclusions. That said, we can say the same thing about other posters as well but...live and learn (or never learn to live).

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'd include you as a must-read as well. And you specifically pin-pointed guys are are VERY good on this topic. SD, you have great resources in front of you. Feel free to take that extra step and access them before you jump to reactionary conclusions. That said, we can say the same thing about other posters as well but...live and learn (or never learn to live).

Same as you... I should have put etc because I know you are a great poster as well. There are a bunch of them but I normally don't get into names like everyone else. I know some but for being here since Jan of 05 I don't know as many as I should. A lot of the time I read it and don't really look who wrote it... if it's a good post it's a good post no matter how many boxes or how long they have been on the board. If it's a bad post it's a bad post... I have seen some really good post on boards coming from guys who have single digit post counts.

Originally posted by okdkid:
Maiocco is reporting that the first year cap hit of the Brooks contract is $2.85MM.

So, Brooks is taking up less than $3MM of the cap this season.

If true then this thread is even more hilarious! LMAO!

Can we get a name change for SD? Somthing like 'TheSkyIsFalling' seems good.

Originally posted by Gore_21:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'd include you as a must-read as well. And you specifically pin-pointed guys are are VERY good on this topic. SD, you have great resources in front of you. Feel free to take that extra step and access them before you jump to reactionary conclusions. That said, we can say the same thing about other posters as well but...live and learn (or never learn to live).

Same as you... I should have put etc because I know you are a great poster as well. There are a bunch of them but I normally don't get into names like everyone else. I know some but for being here since Jan of 05 I don't know as many as I should. A lot of the time I read it and don't really look who wrote it... if it's a good post it's a good post no matter how many boxes or how long they have been on the board. If it's a bad post it's a bad post... I have seen some really good post on boards coming from guys who have single digit post counts.

I feel the same as you. Typically ignore the one liners or the obvious hate. But those posts that are clear, thought out, etc. I read every one on the topic of interest esp. if it's from a different perspective...adds value to the conversation. But true, after a while you start to notice the quality of the post and who posts them. Quality overrides everything. Much respect...

So much for that 44 million

Matt Maiocco ‏ @MaioccoCSN
OLB Ahmad Brooks' deal counts $2.85 million on this year's cap. It's a six-year, $37M extension. bit.ly/w5NuN4

Brooks' deal, which 49ers chief negotiator Paraag Marathe worked out with agent Greg Williams, includes $17.5 million in guarantees, including a $7.5 million signing bonus.Read more: Brooks' deal counts $2.85 million against 2012 cap Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story


Brooks' future cap figures are $6.65 million in 2013, $7.5 million in 2014, 8.35 million in 2015, $6.35 million in 2016, and $5.3 million in 2017. Those amounts include roster bonuses in which Brooks receives approximately $50,000 for every game he is active in the regular season, a source said.Read more: Brooks' deal counts $2.85 million against 2012 cap Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story

Originally posted by valrod33:
So much for that 44 million

Matt Maiocco ‏ @MaioccoCSN
OLB Ahmad Brooks' deal counts $2.85 million on this year's cap. It's a six-year, $37M extension. bit.ly/w5NuN4

http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/niners-talk/post/Brooks-deal-counts-285-million-against-2?blockID=661356&feedID=5884

THE SKY IS FALLING!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!

Jeez....he will actually cost less this year than Shante Spencer was scheduled to make. SMH.