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Why did we overpay so much for Brooks? And where does that leave us now?
Feb 29, 2012 at 11:11 PM
- 4everfaithful24
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Ignorance. Some people just do not get the bigger picture...
Feb 29, 2012 at 11:28 PM
- Kolohe
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A little bit of an overreaction IMO. Brooks would be over-paid IF he wasn't a starter. Brooks has been a big reason our 9ers were a top 10 defense last year, we shouldn't need stats to convince one another, if you watched the games you would see Brooks is well worth it. Our front office is just trying to reward the solid effort from last year, and now that they're finally doing it they're over-paying WTF!!!! I don't know about some of you, but we should be congratulating our front office for keeping our front seven intact, not questioning them.
Feb 29, 2012 at 11:42 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by SFrush:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:The 11 sacks came his rookie season. He hasn't reached double digit sacks since. Maybe I'm missing something.
Wimbley had 11 sacks and 69 tackles as career highs respectively. Show me when Brooks did that?.....
When did Brooks ever do 11 sacks? Ever? Above 10 ever? Double digits. Aldon Smith came in and did it as a rookie and made it look easy.
SD -
You are getting to hung up on the stats. You dont think Harbaugh, Vic and Baalke have looked at every single play involving Brooks 3 and 4 times over? There are a lot of things the stat line wont capture. Clearly what our FO saw on film (and everyday workouts) impressed them enough to offer him what they did. This isn't some FA that they've only watched film on or read about. He's been on the team for 3/4 years. They know him well. The bottom line is this signing wont stop us from signing the rest of the guys we value in FA. And if we can keep one of the most elite front 7s in history together for a few more years then its worth it.
I'm fine with keeping this front 7 together and think it's a good idea. I just hope we can sign the rest of the guys we also want.
You dont think Praag the mathmatical geek has the numbers all maped out? I highly doubt they are just doing one offs. As Baalke has said, they have a value assigned to each guy. I assume that means they know at one point one players contract would prevent them from signing anothers. If they gave Brooks 7 million a year (potentially) its because they felt they could still sign the players they want for the value they want them. It will work out. I bet we sign Goldson, Brooks, Morgan and Snyder to long term deals. I wouldn't be suprised or that upset if the rest walked. That would be a pretty kick ass offseason assuming we get a corner or maybe keep Spencer around?
I don't see Ted Ginn in there or Alex Smith. The young guys are not ready (QB's). Think about it. But for 2 fumbled punt returns ALEX SMITH would have had us in the Super Bowl. He really would have.
What about Vincent Jackson? How do we sign him now?
LOL....I dont know how I over looked Smith....duh.
I'm not sure if the question of VJ was a joke? I doubt a big name FA was ever in the plans. Not that everything Baalke says is gospel, but he did say FA is a marathon, not a sprint. He was implying that he's not going to get into bidding wars for the high priced/ over priced 1st tier FAs. Unless Jackson (D and V) ended up on the market weeks after March 13th, I dont see them in the plans.
P.S. Ginn may or not stay. I wont lose sleep either way.
Vincent Jackson is not a joke. He would help this team. And I would lose sleep for sure if we lost Ginn. Did you see our return game with Williams?
Feb 29, 2012 at 11:45 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
A little bit of an overreaction IMO. Brooks would be over-paid IF he wasn't a starter. Brooks has been a big reason our 9ers were a top 10 defense last year, we shouldn't need stats to convince one another, if you watched the games you would see Brooks is well worth it. Our front office is just trying to reward the solid effort from last year, and now that they're finally doing it they're over-paying WTF!!!! I don't know about some of you, but we should be congratulating our front office for keeping our front seven intact, not questioning them.
I'm glad we are keeping the front 7. Now I just want to sign some more players. From the back 4 and outside FA WR's.
Feb 29, 2012 at 11:55 PM
- Kolohe
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
A little bit of an overreaction IMO. Brooks would be over-paid IF he wasn't a starter. Brooks has been a big reason our 9ers were a top 10 defense last year, we shouldn't need stats to convince one another, if you watched the games you would see Brooks is well worth it. Our front office is just trying to reward the solid effort from last year, and now that they're finally doing it they're over-paying WTF!!!! I don't know about some of you, but we should be congratulating our front office for keeping our front seven intact, not questioning them.
I'm glad we are keeping the front 7. Now I just want to sign some more players. From the back 4 and outside FA WR's.
But SD free agency is weak this year, there's really no player to break the bank for. I've read that Vincent Jackson might be tagged again, he and Bowe were pretty much the only two I'd hope we splurge for. But now that they'll most likely be tagged, its all about the draft. Much rather have Stephen Hill or Reuben Randle over most of the free agent WR this year.
Feb 29, 2012 at 11:59 PM
- JeuSF49
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"we ovrpaid him cuz we could have pikd up Manny Lawson and moved Bowman to OLB and also Willis on 3rd downz, Baalke you idiot"....
Brooks had a very good season, he was more or less constantly on the field. He's a much better passrusher than Parys, also good in run support forcing the play back inside into the arms of WIllis or Bowman.
Harbaugh said he wants to keep the team together, and if Fangio would not have been satisfied with Brooks, Baalke would have let him walk.
Brooks had a very good season, he was more or less constantly on the field. He's a much better passrusher than Parys, also good in run support forcing the play back inside into the arms of WIllis or Bowman.
Harbaugh said he wants to keep the team together, and if Fangio would not have been satisfied with Brooks, Baalke would have let him walk.
Mar 1, 2012 at 12:01 AM
- m_brockalexander
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Where does it leave the Niners now? In great shape with their front seven intact and with plenty of money left to spend.
Mar 1, 2012 at 12:03 AM
- buck
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
And I would lose sleep for sure if we lost Ginn. Did you see our return game with Williams?
I would like to keep Ginn, but if, and only if, he is signed as a return man. No use pretending that he has much value, if any, as a wide receiver.
Mar 1, 2012 at 12:05 AM
- Fricker
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Over reaction indeed.. It's more than likely end loaded. And even if it wasn't It's what 7.335 million a yr. That's nothing for a productive olb that hasn't hit his prime. Plus I like the guy.. after all he wants to be here.. And I love players with chips on their shoulders with something to prove. He will do just that.
Mar 1, 2012 at 12:18 AM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
And I would lose sleep for sure if we lost Ginn. Did you see our return game with Williams?
I would like to keep Ginn, but if, and only if, he is signed as a return man. No use pretending that he has much value, if any, as a wide receiver.
But he has great value as a return man. And that's more valuable to our team than a team like the Saints who can score at will. We rely on our defense and special teams.
Mar 1, 2012 at 12:19 AM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
A little bit of an overreaction IMO. Brooks would be over-paid IF he wasn't a starter. Brooks has been a big reason our 9ers were a top 10 defense last year, we shouldn't need stats to convince one another, if you watched the games you would see Brooks is well worth it. Our front office is just trying to reward the solid effort from last year, and now that they're finally doing it they're over-paying WTF!!!! I don't know about some of you, but we should be congratulating our front office for keeping our front seven intact, not questioning them.
I'm glad we are keeping the front 7. Now I just want to sign some more players. From the back 4 and outside FA WR's.
But SD free agency is weak this year, there's really no player to break the bank for. I've read that Vincent Jackson might be tagged again, he and Bowe were pretty much the only two I'd hope we splurge for. But now that they'll most likely be tagged, its all about the draft. Much rather have Stephen Hill or Reuben Randle over most of the free agent WR this year.
Suppose we go big for Vincent Jackson. Then we draft Stephen Hill / Coby Fleener. Whoever is available. How does that team look?.....
Mar 1, 2012 at 12:25 AM
- bors
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Mar 1, 2012 at 12:29 AM
- Godsleftsock
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
A little bit of an overreaction IMO. Brooks would be over-paid IF he wasn't a starter. Brooks has been a big reason our 9ers were a top 10 defense last year, we shouldn't need stats to convince one another, if you watched the games you would see Brooks is well worth it. Our front office is just trying to reward the solid effort from last year, and now that they're finally doing it they're over-paying WTF!!!! I don't know about some of you, but we should be congratulating our front office for keeping our front seven intact, not questioning them.
I'm glad we are keeping the front 7. Now I just want to sign some more players. From the back 4 and outside FA WR's.
But SD free agency is weak this year, there's really no player to break the bank for. I've read that Vincent Jackson might be tagged again, he and Bowe were pretty much the only two I'd hope we splurge for. But now that they'll most likely be tagged, its all about the draft. Much rather have Stephen Hill or Reuben Randle over most of the free agent WR this year.
Suppose we go big for Vincent Jackson. Then we draft Stephen Hill / Coby Fleener. Whoever is available. How does that team look?.....
And then Parys Haralson is an everydown backer
Mar 1, 2012 at 12:31 AM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by Godsleftsock:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
A little bit of an overreaction IMO. Brooks would be over-paid IF he wasn't a starter. Brooks has been a big reason our 9ers were a top 10 defense last year, we shouldn't need stats to convince one another, if you watched the games you would see Brooks is well worth it. Our front office is just trying to reward the solid effort from last year, and now that they're finally doing it they're over-paying WTF!!!! I don't know about some of you, but we should be congratulating our front office for keeping our front seven intact, not questioning them.
I'm glad we are keeping the front 7. Now I just want to sign some more players. From the back 4 and outside FA WR's.
But SD free agency is weak this year, there's really no player to break the bank for. I've read that Vincent Jackson might be tagged again, he and Bowe were pretty much the only two I'd hope we splurge for. But now that they'll most likely be tagged, its all about the draft. Much rather have Stephen Hill or Reuben Randle over most of the free agent WR this year.
Suppose we go big for Vincent Jackson. Then we draft Stephen Hill / Coby Fleener. Whoever is available. How does that team look?.....
And then Parys Haralson is an everydown backer
We already signed Brooks so that's a done deal. Why can't we still get Vincent Jackson? We still have more money available.
Mar 1, 2012 at 12:33 AM
- Godsleftsock
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:I was just messing, that'd be pretty sick to have that going on offense. Would like to see us get some more of our D resigned though.
Originally posted by Godsleftsock:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
A little bit of an overreaction IMO. Brooks would be over-paid IF he wasn't a starter. Brooks has been a big reason our 9ers were a top 10 defense last year, we shouldn't need stats to convince one another, if you watched the games you would see Brooks is well worth it. Our front office is just trying to reward the solid effort from last year, and now that they're finally doing it they're over-paying WTF!!!! I don't know about some of you, but we should be congratulating our front office for keeping our front seven intact, not questioning them.
I'm glad we are keeping the front 7. Now I just want to sign some more players. From the back 4 and outside FA WR's.
But SD free agency is weak this year, there's really no player to break the bank for. I've read that Vincent Jackson might be tagged again, he and Bowe were pretty much the only two I'd hope we splurge for. But now that they'll most likely be tagged, its all about the draft. Much rather have Stephen Hill or Reuben Randle over most of the free agent WR this year.
Suppose we go big for Vincent Jackson. Then we draft Stephen Hill / Coby Fleener. Whoever is available. How does that team look?.....
And then Parys Haralson is an everydown backer
We already signed Brooks so that's a done deal. Why can't we still get Vincent Jackson? We still have more money available.