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This has to be one of the best defenses we have ever had.

Originally posted by dobo:
I blame Alex

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
Originally posted by dobo:
I blame Alex

He is the reason our D has gotten so much experience in the past
:D
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Originally posted by 190836:
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Originally posted by 190836:
He doesn't know what he is talking about. Not only we had four of the best DBs, we had some of the best D lines ever. Michael Carter, Jeff Stover, Fred Dean, manu Tuiasosopo, Jim Stucky and the list goes on. Jeff Fuller was a reserve, imagine that.

And this 2011 defense isn't underrated? We sure as hell wouldn't be 11-3 without them, that's for sure.
Don't get me wrong, we have a great D, but its nowhere near what 84 team was. BTW, i forgot to mention gary big hand Johnson and Dawine Board on that list.


I'm not trying to take away from the '84 defense. I was born in '88, but I know the Niners' history pretty well, but that '84 Niners team had an Offense to go with the Defense. What about this '11 team? This offense is sub-par. The defense makes them look above average. They're a special group, and I think they are better than the '84 team. (To note, the special teams has helped on the defense a lot in favorable situations though. This might be a great post in itself though, '11 Defense vs. '84 Defense. I would love to see arguments from both sides.)
I understand you are excited about this team, so am I. I also understand that you know the history. But if you weren't there too see them play, how can you judge them? 84 and 89 teams were unreal. Their Defenses were ranked first or second if i remember right. IMO, 84's front four and the DBs were by far better than 11s. We are talking Lott, Hicks, Williamson and the great Eric wright. Like I said imagine this, Jeff Fuller was a Reserve player.Fuller could have been a SF 49ers HOFer, if it wasn't for his injury in 89 (IMO), or maybe he is, i don't know. The current 2011 D backs could not even be on that roster. Sorry, but its the truth. The only part of this team's D that is better than the 84's team is the ILB core. Bill Walsh and Joe Montana would have scored a bunch of points on this team. guaranteed! Again, its not even close.
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Originally posted by 190836:
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Originally posted by 190836:
He doesn't know what he is talking about. Not only we had four of the best DBs, we had some of the best D lines ever. Michael Carter, Jeff Stover, Fred Dean, manu Tuiasosopo, Jim Stucky and the list goes on. Jeff Fuller was a reserve, imagine that.

And this 2011 defense isn't underrated? We sure as hell wouldn't be 11-3 without them, that's for sure.
Don't get me wrong, we have a great D, but its nowhere near what 84 team was. BTW, i forgot to mention gary big hand Johnson and Dawine Board on that list.


I'm not trying to take away from the '84 defense. I was born in '88, but I know the Niners' history pretty well, but that '84 Niners team had an Offense to go with the Defense. What about this '11 team? This offense is sub-par. The defense makes them look above average. They're a special group, and I think they are better than the '84 team. (To note, the special teams has helped on the defense a lot in favorable situations though. This might be a great post in itself though, '11 Defense vs. '84 Defense. I would love to see arguments from both sides.)
I understand that you are excited about this team, so am I. I also understand that you know the history. But if you weren't there too see them play, how can you judge them? 84 and 89 teams were unreal. Their Defenses were ranked first or second if i remember right. IMO, 84's front four and the DBs were by far better than 11s. We are talking Lott, Hicks, Williamson and the great Eric wright. Like I said imagine this, Jeff Fuller was a Reserve player.Fuller could have been a SF 49ers HOFer, if it wasn't for his injury in 89 (IMO), or maybe he is, i don't know. The current 2011 D backs could not even be on that roster. Sorry, but its the truth. The only part of this team's D that is better than the 84's team is the ILB core. Bill Walsh and Joe Montana would have scored a bunch of points on this team. guaranteed! Again, its not even close.
[ Edited by 190836 on Dec 20, 2011 at 6:24 AM ]
I don't know why it double posted. Help me Mods.
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Originally posted by FunkNinerFlex:
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
2011 > 1984.

Not even s**tting.
Umm, NO!
Fred Dean is better than any pass rusher on the 2011 D. Board was also a very good pass rusher. Johsnon and Tui are better than Sopoaga at NT.
Lott, Wright, Hicks and Williamson>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rogers, Brown, Goldson and Whitmore
2011 ILBs >>>> 1984 ILBs
But, the underrated Turner is better at OLB than Brooks
1984 D was as underrated as they were great.

Have you not seen Aldon play? He has 13 sacks and is very limited. He only plays on 'passing' downs. I dare to say Aldon is better than Dean ever was. But this is only Aldon's rookie season...
Yes, I've seen Aldon play. Did you see Fred Dean play, and not highlights? Dean played as majority of his snaps on passing downs also. As of Aldon right now, Dean is much much better. If Aldon continues to improve, which I hope he does, than I'll mention him in Deans class.

As a base Front 7, I would say they're a little better than the 94 Champion team. Especially if Aldon plays like this in the playoffs. But Young and Stubbs were great as DTs. This years Justin Smith is flat out AWESOME.

Actually, 2011 is the best base 7 we've had.

I'm glad we're relevant again.
Originally posted by 190836:
I don't know why it double posted. Help me Mods.

You were talking about Jeff Fuller. Sorry but I cant delete anything with Jeff's name in it. One of my all time favourites.
Goldson and Rogers are going to be hard to keep.
Originally posted by Youngone:
Goldson and Rogers are going to be hard to keep.

This has me worried. I never understood why we passed out 1 year contracts?
Hmmm I'm remembering Chris Doleman, Bryant Young, Dana Stubblefield, Roy Barker on the D line with Lee Woodall, Ken Norton Jr., and Gary Plummer as the LBs. That front 7 was pretty impressive!
Move this to the Official defense thread ppl? Search before you post...
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Originally posted by mug0mug:
In fantasy, I picked'em up out of free agency (week 4 I think) after drafting the Bears.

I drafted them :)

They've pretty much carried me to the championship game!
Originally posted by Paintrain:
Hmmm I'm remembering Chris Doleman, Bryant Young, Dana Stubblefield, Roy Barker on the D line with Lee Woodall, Ken Norton Jr., and Gary Plummer as the LBs. That front 7 was pretty impressive!

My favorite front 4 right there.
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by Youngone:
Goldson and Rogers are going to be hard to keep.

This has me worried. I never understood why we passed out 1 year contracts?

Inviting them to prove their point or fail to. So we dont get lumbered with dead wood.