Are we calling two plays in the huddle?

I hvae seen him do it every game this year and 70% of the time It's a run play that he lets roll.

Bump...

Mods, that other thread about this same topic should be merged with this one.

Each play called in the huddle also has an alternative to audible to if the defense shows an alignment that might stop the first call. So "let it roll" is the call to tell teammates to stay with the first call. "Kill" is to run the alternate play...per Eric Davis.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by norcal49er864:
"Smith can dictate his play calls at the line of scrimmage more than in the past. He usually calls two plays in the huddle, and depending on the defense, Smith will yell out, "Let it roll" or circle his fists in front of his chest. That signals to the offense to go with the first play that's called. If he wants to go with the second play, Smith will yell, "Kill, kill" or make a slashing motion with his hand."

http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2011/11/08/49ers-qb-alex-smith-plays-like-he-belongs/

But it seems every time he yells "Let it roll" its check into a run play??

Nope... http://youtu.be/XuuyTxsB_74?t=3m40s

Originally posted by jimbo49ers:

Gotta assume also that the two plays in the huddle or not just run/pass. They can be two different type of run plays or two different type of pass plays.

Yes, I seriously doubt they call the same two plays every time. I don't think that the audible calls mean anything other than what they say. Either roll with what was called or kill it for the alternate. The only thing the defense knows is that the play has been switched, not what it was switched to.

Originally posted by gamechanger:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by norcal49er864:
"Smith can dictate his play calls at the line of scrimmage more than in the past. He usually calls two plays in the huddle, and depending on the defense, Smith will yell out, "Let it roll" or circle his fists in front of his chest. That signals to the offense to go with the first play that's called. If he wants to go with the second play, Smith will yell, "Kill, kill" or make a slashing motion with his hand."

http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2011/11/08/49ers-qb-alex-smith-plays-like-he-belongs/

But it seems every time he yells "Let it roll" its check into a run play??

Nope... http://youtu.be/XuuyTxsB_74?t=3m40s

I guess I don't here it or recognize when he does "let it roll" into a pass play. But most of the time it seems like a run play, thanks.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by gamechanger:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by norcal49er864:
"Smith can dictate his play calls at the line of scrimmage more than in the past. He usually calls two plays in the huddle, and depending on the defense, Smith will yell out, "Let it roll" or circle his fists in front of his chest. That signals to the offense to go with the first play that's called. If he wants to go with the second play, Smith will yell, "Kill, kill" or make a slashing motion with his hand."

http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2011/11/08/49ers-qb-alex-smith-plays-like-he-belongs/

But it seems every time he yells "Let it roll" its check into a run play??

Nope... http://youtu.be/XuuyTxsB_74?t=3m40s

I guess I don't here it or recognize when he does "let it roll" into a pass play. But most of the time it seems like a run play, thanks.

No prob. Now merge this with this thread http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/159089-calling-two-plays-huddle/

Here's another instance where it was a pass...

http://youtu.be/Hoxpor5qPRs?t=5m56s

Originally posted by gamechanger:
Here's another instance where it was a pass...

http://youtu.be/Hoxpor5qPRs?t=5m56s

I'm glad it wasn't just run plays, I was beginning to worry that future defenses would catch on.

I remember all we had to do is get a couple of yards in the first half of the redskins game on a 3rd and short, but the play wasn't called in time and we got a delay of game call because of all of the audibles Alex had to do. I feel like it takes too long to run the play that costs us to lose a potential first down. Sometime I feel like we're making plays look too fancy.

Originally posted by DENden223:
I remember all we had to do is get a couple of yards in the first half of the redskins game on a 3rd and short, but the play wasn't called in time and we got a delay of game call because of all of the audibles Alex had to do. I feel like it takes too long to run the play that costs us to lose a potential first down. Sometime I feel like we're making plays look too fancy.

They had plenty of time but the personnel wasn't ready, plus they weren't expecting the refs to run the clock that quickly. If we were at home I don't think this would've been a problem.

Originally posted by gamechanger:

Originally posted by THEMerts80:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by King49er:
I think he's calling 2 plays in the huddle, if he switches the play during audible, I think he's yelling "kill kill" or something like that, and i think the rolling motion means to continue with the first play, I could be wrong though

this! let it roll probably means go with the play called and kill kill means go with the other play

I remember the Kill Kill stuff that alex does as well but i never paid attention to see if it was a pass play when he yelled Kill Kill. But most definitely the let it roll plays have 100% been run plays. Its just kinda of a give away but last game still would gain at least 2 yards or more on each "Let it roll" plays

Yeah if you think like Singletary, then it would be 100% run plays. How dumb would that be if it was all run plays the defenses would catch on and no way Harbaugh and Co. would do such a thing. Watch the game a little closer before you start saying stuff like this. As a matter of fact here's proof that you're wrong...

http://youtu.be/XuuyTxsB_74?t=3m40s

Thank you for the evidence... But from my observation I would say easily 90% of the let it roll plays seem to be a run. Thank you for the constructive evidence. Go 9ers

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Dude, this is a pathetic post. Go read up on how the speakers work and try not to embarrass yourself next time. Bashing Smiths intelligence- cheap. Doing so while showcasing yours- priceless.

Originally posted by gamechanger:

Originally posted by DENden223:
I remember all we had to do is get a couple of yards in the first half of the redskins game on a 3rd and short, but the play wasn't called in time and we got a delay of game call because of all of the audibles Alex had to do. I feel like it takes too long to run the play that costs us to lose a potential first down. Sometime I feel like we're making plays look too fancy.

They had plenty of time but the personnel wasn't ready, plus they weren't expecting the refs to run the clock that quickly. If we were at home I don't think this would've been a problem.

I believe it was a new wrinkle that we were letting out for the first time. Alex was actually the one calling the plays a couple times the first couple drives. We went a little no huddle and Alex was shifting guys all over. I think we will start seeing more and more of this and giving Alex a chance to run things as he seems fit. As far as the false starts, it just seemed like the timing was off. We were seeing installing new elements, and it's to be expected that we don't have it down quite yet.

Just my own theory...