Just re-watched the game....Noticed a few things.... | Page 10

Marvin49 · 2011-09-14T09:41:29-07:00

1) Crabtree lost some weight. Dunno if it was unintentional or he got himself in really good shape, but he looks skinnier. He is also still blocking hard downfield. On VDs first reception he BLEW UP Earl Thomas. He also seamed a little faster running his routes before he got hurt. 2) Speaking of Earl Thomas, that guy is going to be a thorn in the 49ers side for a LONG time. It seems like everytime it was third down that guy was making the play preventing us from getting it. He's a good one and needs to be accounted for. 3) On second viewing, Alex played better than I thought. I was a bit frustrated with the playcalling, but he did what he was asked and made some really good throws. Three of them were to VD, but the last one should have been a penalty. VD did hold up as not to get hit, but he was also held. I dunno if he figured there would be a flag so why get blasted, but to be honest I'd rather he NOT catch that because he's been hurt on those kinds of plays before. 4) I'm not saying that Frank has lost it, but his play concerned me. Seattle stacked the run alot and it's not like he had clean lanes to run through, but it just seemed he didn't have that little extra he usually has to get the extra yard that results in a first down or TD. It could have just been a bad game, he may not have his legs yet, or it could have been great play by Seattle....but it was enough to be concerned about. 5) Aldon Smith is a freak of nature. He didn't have a great game and wasn't dominant, but he made a few plays that no other human being could. First, on a play where the Tackle was trying to cut him...he put BOTH hands on the ground and sprung righ back to his feat. It was almost like he was a four legged animal and his arms and legs were the same length. He didn't make the play, but I had to watch it 2 or 3 times to see if I was actually seeing what I was seeing. In the second half he was cut again, easily avoided it and got the longest arms I've ever seen up in the air and on the ball. This guy is young and raw and has a long of ways to go....but he needs to join the X-Men because the guy is a freakin' mutant. 6) Scheme: When I watched the game the first time, I suspected that the Adam Snyder shift penalty was intentional. Now I'm sure of it. It was 4th and one and that shift gave the 49ers a first down. The gameplan was kinda vanilla, but there were little moments here and there where we got a glimpse of what we have to look forward to. The fake one way and then run behind Alex play. Nice. I honestly think that Harbaugh and Roman didn't feel the need to open the bag for this game and only used what they had to to get the W. When Seattle got within 2, I think they would have opened it a bit....but Teddy Ginn sealed the game for them. 7) Ted Ginn: Wow. He took 2 back, but he almost broke 2 more. I dubnno if there is something different about him this year, if Seely is just a better coach, or if the game was just a fluke....but he was ON on Sunday. He took some chances and lost some yards a few times (all really good returners do), but that guy was better than I've ever seen him. 8) Edwards is gonna be huge this year. He was held. Alot. We are gonna see many jump balls for him and he's gonna move the sticks. 9) Ray McDonald. Wow. Dominant. Only 1 sack on the sheet but disruptive the entire day

Sep 15, 2011 at 10:02 PM

#136

FredFlintstone
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Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Wow I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that four-legged burst by Aldon, that was nuts. -It's no wonder Bill Belichick was so sad to see this guy go off the board early (who had admitted to absolutely trading ahead of the Texans to snatch him if Aldon had still been around at #10), cause Aldon has the genuine physical intangibles to play at both DE and OLB.

In the NFL Network series with Belichick, I have to see if a man snuck into his office or anything from that series. I think Baalke grabbed his scouting report.

WOW!! belichick was high on aldon?? i knew the texans wanted him, thats great to hear that a mastermind like belichick wanted aldon that bad. we must develop aldon into the beast he can become!!

Sep 15, 2011 at 10:47 PM

#137

SJniner7
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Originally posted by vrabbit:

Originally posted by SJniner7:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Rewatching the game, I noticed we were going to lose the game until Ginn took over. The Seahawks had all the momentum, dominated the second half and closed to a few points. Lucky win for us in many ways that Seattle's top two special teamers were out with injuries and Ginn is a stud. Otherwise, the board would be howling in anger this week instead of calling for us to defeat the Cowboys.

A win is a win, ugly or pretty. But, I think we have to be very cautious about the overall success of the team. We were pretty fortunate to come out on top. This team has a LONG ways to go.

Please give me some lottery numbers with that "we were going to lose the game until Ginn took over" crystal ball!!!! I love how people assume (the key word here) momentum shifted and SEA was going to win. We don't know what would have happened if our offense took over. Alex could have messed it all up. He may have played brilliantly. The team may have faltered or succeeded. We really don't know.

To suggest otherwise is well... umm... your crystal ball should be able to finish that sentence for me!

saying that we would have lost this game if Ginn doesn't go off IS an assumption.

saying that Seattle had all the momentum in the game prior to Ginn's KRTD IS NOT an assumption

You know what I meant, Mr. "I Like to nitpick and correct people's sentences"!

That being said, "saying that Seattle had all the momentum in the game prior to Ginn's KRTD IS NOT an assumption". Refresh my memory. What was the score at halftime? Ah, see what I did there?

And SEA was down 17-10, then we marched down the field (i.e. momentum) and smacked a FG on them(preferably a TD, but they couldn't stop us), which they responded with a TD. Ginn responded and their momentum was dead! Niners win! woohoo!

Sep 16, 2011 at 12:42 AM

#138

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Originally posted by gage:
I don't remember who it was, but someone on this board said that rewatching that play you can see that Crabtree was Smith's second read and he had already past him at that point so, if that's true, he is going through his progression.

Still, it seems great QB's are able to sometimes go back to earlier reads if they have time. I don't remember how much time Smith had on that play. If he wasn't rushed it would have been nice for him to have worked his way back.

They showed it from Alex's point of view and Crabtree had a defender in front of him when Alex was looking his way. Don't think he could have dumped it over the guys head. I think Crabtree was 2 and he was looking at Gore (3?) when Crabtree got open. Like you said sometimes the great ones can find those guys and Alex probably could have waited some more but nothing wrong with the check down. It would have been a tough throw to get it to Crabtree but at the end he was pretty open but he had already locked in on Gore.

Sep 16, 2011 at 5:27 AM

#139

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Originally posted by Gore_21:
They showed it from Alex's point of view and Crabtree had a defender in front of him when Alex was looking his way. Don't think he could have dumped it over the guys head. I think Crabtree was 2 and he was looking at Gore (3?) when Crabtree got open. Like you said sometimes the great ones can find those guys and Alex probably could have waited some more but nothing wrong with the check down. It would have been a tough throw to get it to Crabtree but at the end he was pretty open but he had already locked in on Gore.

He also had a de breathing down his neck on the play.

Sep 16, 2011 at 5:46 AM

#140

PatrickJira411
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Good stuff. Thanks

Sep 16, 2011 at 6:33 AM

#141

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Originally posted by SJniner7:

Originally posted by vrabbit:

Originally posted by SJniner7:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Rewatching the game, I noticed we were going to lose the game until Ginn took over. The Seahawks had all the momentum, dominated the second half and closed to a few points. Lucky win for us in many ways that Seattle's top two special teamers were out with injuries and Ginn is a stud. Otherwise, the board would be howling in anger this week instead of calling for us to defeat the Cowboys.

A win is a win, ugly or pretty. But, I think we have to be very cautious about the overall success of the team. We were pretty fortunate to come out on top. This team has a LONG ways to go.

Please give me some lottery numbers with that "we were going to lose the game until Ginn took over" crystal ball!!!! I love how people assume (the key word here) momentum shifted and SEA was going to win. We don't know what would have happened if our offense took over. Alex could have messed it all up. He may have played brilliantly. The team may have faltered or succeeded. We really don't know.

To suggest otherwise is well... umm... your crystal ball should be able to finish that sentence for me!

saying that we would have lost this game if Ginn doesn't go off IS an assumption.

saying that Seattle had all the momentum in the game prior to Ginn's KRTD IS NOT an assumption

You know what I meant, Mr. "I Like to nitpick and correct people's sentences"!

That being said, "saying that Seattle had all the momentum in the game prior to Ginn's KRTD IS NOT an assumption". Refresh my memory. What was the score at halftime? Ah, see what I did there?

And SEA was down 17-10, then we marched down the field (i.e. momentum) and smacked a FG on them(preferably a TD, but they couldn't stop us), which they responded with a TD. Ginn responded and their momentum was dead! Niners win! woohoo!

Just to add to this conversation: We had just stopped Seattle wen Ginn got his punt return for a TD. The drive we had before his TDs, we took 9 minutes off the clock as we marched it down the field. There were about 3 left when he got that punt. Even if he doesnt take it for a TD, I think its safe to assume we run the clock out and still win.

Sep 16, 2011 at 9:22 AM

#142

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Originally posted by Gore_21:

Originally posted by gage:
I don't remember who it was, but someone on this board said that rewatching that play you can see that Crabtree was Smith's second read and he had already past him at that point so, if that's true, he is going through his progression.

Still, it seems great QB's are able to sometimes go back to earlier reads if they have time. I don't remember how much time Smith had on that play. If he wasn't rushed it would have been nice for him to have worked his way back.

They showed it from Alex's point of view and Crabtree had a defender in front of him when Alex was looking his way. Don't think he could have dumped it over the guys head. I think Crabtree was 2 and he was looking at Gore (3?) when Crabtree got open. Like you said sometimes the great ones can find those guys and Alex probably could have waited some more but nothing wrong with the check down. It would have been a tough throw to get it to Crabtree but at the end he was pretty open but he had already locked in on Gore.

That shouldn't really matter. Alex needs to trust the system, route, and throw. He needs to see that the defender was also too far forward and a high throw to the horizontal portion of the upright would have been snatched down by Crabtree...or maybe not, he also dropped a quick pass in the game.

Maybe we get off of Smith on these misconnections to Crabtree and maybe Crabtree stops being a b***h and tries to get through a Training Camp and Preseason. LOL!

Sep 16, 2011 at 9:26 AM

#143

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Originally posted by Joecool:
That shouldn't really matter. Alex needs to trust the system, route, and throw. He needs to see that the defender was also too far forward and a high throw to the horizontal portion of the upright would have been snatched down by Crabtree...or maybe not, he also dropped a quick pass in the game.

Maybe we get off of Smith on these misconnections to Crabtree and maybe Crabtree stops being a b***h and tries to get through a Training Camp and Preseason. LOL!

Lulz, I was gonna mention this.

Sep 17, 2011 at 7:47 AM

#144

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Edwards is money. Jump balls in the endzone are touchdowns unless he got the PI call. You either have to tackle the guy or let him score. HAHAH!!!

I still say we could add TO for cheap and signed him for the final 3 years of his career. Imagine the possibilities.

Sep 17, 2011 at 7:48 AM

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Sep 17, 2011 at 7:54 AM

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SybErkRimInAL
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yup, edwards goes up and gets it. Utilize that s**t!

Sep 17, 2011 at 8:15 AM

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Originally posted by txninerdad80:
Edwards is money. Jump balls in the endzone are touchdowns unless he got the PI call. You either have to tackle the guy or let him score. HAHAH!!!

I still say we could add TO for cheap and signed him for the final 3 years of his career. Imagine the possibilities.

i thini TO is till injured

Sep 17, 2011 at 8:29 AM

#148

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One thing Harbaugh may be instilling in Smith is a clock in his head. As he counts off the seconds (making his reads) he will get rid of the ball early, rather than risk a sack. Not sure about this but great QBs have that sense and Smith has not. If Harbaugh can teach him these nuanses, his game will really take off. We will see this week with Dallas if he can avoid sacks again.

That may be a factor in the Crabtree-non-catch, as Smith is ticking the clock in his head and Crabtree wasn't uncovered where he needed to be to receive the ball.

There are so many of these niceties in QBing, that we can not know, that judging a play in isolation seems futile to me.

[ Edited by dtg_9er on Sep 17, 2011 at 8:31 AM ]

Sep 17, 2011 at 8:33 AM

#149

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Originally posted by dtg_9er:
One thing Harbaugh may be instilling in Smith is a clock in his head. As he counts off the seconds (making his reads) he will get rid of the ball early, rather than risk a sack. Not sure about this but great QBs have that sense and Smith has not. If Harbaugh can teach him these nuanses, his game will really take off. We will see this week with Dallas if he can avoid sacks again.

That may be a factor in the Crabtree-non-catch, as Smith is ticking the clock in his head and Crabtree wasn't uncovered where he needed to be to receive the ball.

There are so many of these niceties in QBing, that we can not know, that judging a play in isolation seems futile to me.

i think harbaugh has already had a huge impact his pocket presence and poise have improved so much