QBR watch (week 2) **updated**

Originally posted by D_Niner:
He was just answering the guys question. Why are some of you trying so hard to pick a fight about all of this. It was a good day for Alex; but, one that he wasn't asked to do much at all to help us win. I mean a hundred and twenty some yards, 0 passing TD's and only converted 1 3rd down out of 6 3rd down pass attempts. This isn't going to cut it against the Cowboys next week...

Agreed they are going to have to open up the playbook to beat Dallas. Dallas has a weak looking secondary, but a serious front seven. Looks like the defense might have an easier job if Bryant isn't able to go, he was looking bad by the end of the game last night.

Originally posted by valrod33:
Alex Smith threw some pretty ass passes, That back shoulder throw to Vernon, that pass to Morgan. He had another sweet pass to Davis too

ass a pass, man. Smith gets it.

RE: Checkdowns.

Those passes are an integral part of the Walsh offense. Their purpose was to draw the linebackers closer to the LOS to allow slant passes to be open BEHIND them. When the defense adjusts to stop the slant by dropping LBs into the slant zones (as Seattle was yesterday), the Walsh response is to throw a short pass in FRONT of them to a RB or TE. Those passes are designed to be 4-6 yard gains. They are a key part of the system.

When Walsh first began having success with that style of attack, critics were all over him for not throwing the ball down the field like all the other teams did. Walsh simply observed that they should think of checkdowns as "long handoffs;" the back winds up with the ball and gains 4 or 5 yards.

While slant routes LOOK simple, they are not as easy as they look. The receiver must break at exactly the right time and the pass must come out on time and go right over the center of the mass of bodies that are the two opposing lines. Timing is critical, not only between the QB and receiver but also with the OL driving hard into the onrushing DL to force them to get their hands down so as not be able to knock down the pass.

This team has just not had very much time to work on all of that. Edwards is new, Crabtree still hasn't practiced, Morgan has been more of a blocking WR until this year, etc. It will take some time to get everyone on the same page. A good passing game takes more time than a running game to develop. As hard as it is to be patient, once the receivers get their timing down on the deeper routes, we will see this offense open up more. In the meantime, a 4 yard pass is no different than a 4 yard run. Not every play is designed to score a touchdown. Some of them are designed to set up other stuff, while other plays just take more time to settle in.

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by valrod33:
Alex Smith threw some pretty ass passes, That back shoulder throw to Vernon, that pass to Morgan. He had another sweet pass to Davis too

ass a pass, man. Smith gets it.

Hopefully he continues to ass some passes this weekend

Originally posted by dj43:
RE: Checkdowns.

Those passes are an integral part of the Walsh offense. Their purpose was to draw the linebackers closer to the LOS to allow slant passes to be open BEHIND them. When the defense adjusts to stop the slant by dropping LBs into the slant zones (as Seattle was yesterday), the Walsh response is to throw a short pass in FRONT of them to a RB or TE. Those passes are designed to be 4-6 yard gains. They are a key part of the system.

When Walsh first began having success with that style of attack, critics were all over him for not throwing the ball down the field like all the other teams did. Walsh simply observed that they should think of checkdowns as "long handoffs;" the back winds up with the ball and gains 4 or 5 yards.

While slant routes LOOK simple, they are not as easy as they look. The receiver must break at exactly the right time and the pass must come out on time and go right over the center of the mass of bodies that are the two opposing lines. Timing is critical, not only between the QB and receiver but also with the OL driving hard into the onrushing DL to force them to get their hands down so as not be able to knock down the pass.

This team has just not had very much time to work on all of that. Edwards is new, Crabtree still hasn't practiced, Morgan has been more of a blocking WR until this year, etc. It will take some time to get everyone on the same page. A good passing game takes more time than a running game to develop. As hard as it is to be patient, once the receivers get their timing down on the deeper routes, we will see this offense open up more. In the meantime, a 4 yard pass is no different than a 4 yard run. Not every play is designed to score a touchdown. Some of them are designed to set up other stuff, while other plays just take more time to settle in.

Some get Madden confused with actual football.

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by valrod33:
Alex Smith threw some pretty ass passes, That back shoulder throw to Vernon, that pass to Morgan. He had another sweet pass to Davis too

ass a pass, man. Smith gets it.

Hopefully he continues to ass some passes this weekend

he's gonna ass 'em all, brother.

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by valrod33:
Alex Smith threw some pretty ass passes, That back shoulder throw to Vernon, that pass to Morgan. He had another sweet pass to Davis too

ass a pass, man. Smith gets it.

Hopefully he continues to ass some passes this weekend

he's gonna ass 'em all, brother.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by D_Niner:
He was just answering the guys question. Why are some of you trying so hard to pick a fight about all of this. It was a good day for Alex; but, one that he wasn't asked to do much at all to help us win. I mean a hundred and twenty some yards, 0 passing TD's and only converted 1 3rd down out of 6 3rd down pass attempts. This isn't going to cut it against the Cowboys next week...

Agreed they are going to have to open up the playbook to beat Dallas. Dallas has a weak looking secondary, but a serious front seven. Looks like the defense might have an easier job if Bryant isn't able to go, he was looking bad by the end of the game last night.

Agreed. I'd like to see them work on Screen passes a lot this week in practice. The few we tried in the game were just embarrassing; but, if we can get those working, I think we can open up some slants and gash them...

Originally posted by Shaj:
As you wish:

Alex Smith WIN Watch: 20 - 33 (20 wins, 33 losses if that wasn't clear)

Just stop, please. Years past is history, THIS year we're 1-0. Can we move forward please?

Bottom line is we got the win, So all your sorry ass excuses for why A. Smith sux are completely worthless, pls STFU now!

Originally posted by dj43:
RE: Checkdowns.

Those passes are an integral part of the Walsh offense. Their purpose was to draw the linebackers closer to the LOS to allow slant passes to be open BEHIND them. When the defense adjusts to stop the slant by dropping LBs into the slant zones (as Seattle was yesterday), the Walsh response is to throw a short pass in FRONT of them to a RB or TE. Those passes are designed to be 4-6 yard gains. They are a key part of the system.

When Walsh first began having success with that style of attack, critics were all over him for not throwing the ball down the field like all the other teams did. Walsh simply observed that they should think of checkdowns as "long handoffs;" the back winds up with the ball and gains 4 or 5 yards.

While slant routes LOOK simple, they are not as easy as they look. The receiver must break at exactly the right time and the pass must come out on time and go right over the center of the mass of bodies that are the two opposing lines. Timing is critical, not only between the QB and receiver but also with the OL driving hard into the onrushing DL to force them to get their hands down so as not be able to knock down the pass.

This team has just not had very much time to work on all of that. Edwards is new, Crabtree still hasn't practiced, Morgan has been more of a blocking WR until this year, etc. It will take some time to get everyone on the same page. A good passing game takes more time than a running game to develop. As hard as it is to be patient, once the receivers get their timing down on the deeper routes, we will see this offense open up more. In the meantime, a 4 yard pass is no different than a 4 yard run. Not every play is designed to score a touchdown. Some of them are designed to set up other stuff, while other plays just take more time to settle in.

Love posts like this. Separates the real fans from the guys who catch the NFL Network highlights then come on here and say,

"WTF DOOD OHNLY 124 YAHRDZ N 7 YRZ???? LUK @ KAM! "


Thank you Dj.

Excellent. Lets hope he can stay at that top 10 level.

So there's plenty of ammo for both sides in today's water-cooler debates. Here's the thing you should know about the guy, though: It's almost eerie how unaffected by the haters Smith seems. Other QBs in his situation might have developed a shoulder chip the size of Alcatraz. Other QBs might have used Sunday's victory as a forum to suggest where the haters could stuff their negativity. Not Smith. Either he somehow has ignored the criticism, he is a fantastic actor, or he has a Teflon hide that deflects slings and arrows. Is he really such a nice, well-balanced young man that he cannot be simmering over all the bad stuff? Asked after the game if this win gives him a measure of vindication over the doubters, Smith looked almost puzzled. "I don't know about vindication," he said. "It's 1-0 - that's great. The biggest thing for a QB is getting the win, find a way. Defense helped a lot tonight, special teams ... " If you're wondering what the heck Harbaugh saw in this guy to give him another shot in SF, there's a clue. Smith can shut out a lot of outside bullcorn and focus on football. That's a skill Harbaugh also possesses.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/11/SP6P1L36FB.DTL#ixzz1XlXWRwTz

Loved this article... goes to show people how silly they are... how we all can be... about bashing or defending.
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Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Originally posted by dj43:
RE: Checkdowns.

Those passes are an integral part of the Walsh offense. Their purpose was to draw the linebackers closer to the LOS to allow slant passes to be open BEHIND them. When the defense adjusts to stop the slant by dropping LBs into the slant zones (as Seattle was yesterday), the Walsh response is to throw a short pass in FRONT of them to a RB or TE. Those passes are designed to be 4-6 yard gains. They are a key part of the system.

When Walsh first began having success with that style of attack, critics were all over him for not throwing the ball down the field like all the other teams did. Walsh simply observed that they should think of checkdowns as "long handoffs;" the back winds up with the ball and gains 4 or 5 yards.

While slant routes LOOK simple, they are not as easy as they look. The receiver must break at exactly the right time and the pass must come out on time and go right over the center of the mass of bodies that are the two opposing lines. Timing is critical, not only between the QB and receiver but also with the OL driving hard into the onrushing DL to force them to get their hands down so as not be able to knock down the pass.

This team has just not had very much time to work on all of that. Edwards is new, Crabtree still hasn't practiced, Morgan has been more of a blocking WR until this year, etc. It will take some time to get everyone on the same page. A good passing game takes more time than a running game to develop. As hard as it is to be patient, once the receivers get their timing down on the deeper routes, we will see this offense open up more. In the meantime, a 4 yard pass is no different than a 4 yard run. Not every play is designed to score a touchdown. Some of them are designed to set up other stuff, while other plays just take more time to settle in.

Love posts like this. Separates the real fans from the guys who catch the NFL Network highlights then come on here and say,

"WTF DOOD OHNLY 124 YAHRDZ N 7 YRZ???? LUK @ KAM! "


Thank you Dj.

Originally posted by boast:
where's the WIN watch thread? that's the only one that matters. you're delusional if you think otherwise.

Alex only gets credit on "L"s. "W"s are always Frank, ST or D.