QBR watch (week 2) **updated**

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by boast:
where's the WIN watch thread? that's the only one that matters. you're delusional if you think otherwise.

Alex only gets credit on "L"s. "W"s are always Frank, ST or D.

Originally posted by 49ersMan420:

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Originally posted by dj43:
RE: Checkdowns.

Those passes are an integral part of the Walsh offense. Their purpose was to draw the linebackers closer to the LOS to allow slant passes to be open BEHIND them. When the defense adjusts to stop the slant by dropping LBs into the slant zones (as Seattle was yesterday), the Walsh response is to throw a short pass in FRONT of them to a RB or TE. Those passes are designed to be 4-6 yard gains. They are a key part of the system.

When Walsh first began having success with that style of attack, critics were all over him for not throwing the ball down the field like all the other teams did. Walsh simply observed that they should think of checkdowns as "long handoffs;" the back winds up with the ball and gains 4 or 5 yards.

While slant routes LOOK simple, they are not as easy as they look. The receiver must break at exactly the right time and the pass must come out on time and go right over the center of the mass of bodies that are the two opposing lines. Timing is critical, not only between the QB and receiver but also with the OL driving hard into the onrushing DL to force them to get their hands down so as not be able to knock down the pass.

This team has just not had very much time to work on all of that. Edwards is new, Crabtree still hasn't practiced, Morgan has been more of a blocking WR until this year, etc. It will take some time to get everyone on the same page. A good passing game takes more time than a running game to develop. As hard as it is to be patient, once the receivers get their timing down on the deeper routes, we will see this offense open up more. In the meantime, a 4 yard pass is no different than a 4 yard run. Not every play is designed to score a touchdown. Some of them are designed to set up other stuff, while other plays just take more time to settle in.

Love posts like this. Separates the real fans from the guys who catch the NFL Network highlights then come on here and say,

"WTF DOOD OHNLY 124 YAHRDZ N 7 YRZ???? LUK @ KAM! "


Thank you Dj.

Originally posted by ace130:
Lol Alex had one of the worst QB performance on the list. 124 yards 0tds low yards per catch. Every pass was a checkdown. If it wasnt for ginn we could of lossed

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by dj43:
RE: Checkdowns.

Those passes are an integral part of the Walsh offense. Their purpose was to draw the linebackers closer to the LOS to allow slant passes to be open BEHIND them. When the defense adjusts to stop the slant by dropping LBs into the slant zones (as Seattle was yesterday), the Walsh response is to throw a short pass in FRONT of them to a RB or TE. Those passes are designed to be 4-6 yard gains. They are a key part of the system.

When Walsh first began having success with that style of attack, critics were all over him for not throwing the ball down the field like all the other teams did. Walsh simply observed that they should think of checkdowns as "long handoffs;" the back winds up with the ball and gains 4 or 5 yards.

While slant routes LOOK simple, they are not as easy as they look. The receiver must break at exactly the right time and the pass must come out on time and go right over the center of the mass of bodies that are the two opposing lines. Timing is critical, not only between the QB and receiver but also with the OL driving hard into the onrushing DL to force them to get their hands down so as not be able to knock down the pass.

This team has just not had very much time to work on all of that. Edwards is new, Crabtree still hasn't practiced, Morgan has been more of a blocking WR until this year, etc. It will take some time to get everyone on the same page. A good passing game takes more time than a running game to develop. As hard as it is to be patient, once the receivers get their timing down on the deeper routes, we will see this offense open up more. In the meantime, a 4 yard pass is no different than a 4 yard run. Not every play is designed to score a touchdown. Some of them are designed to set up other stuff, while other plays just take more time to settle in.

Some get Madden confused with actual football.

Originally posted by ace130:
Lol Alex had one of the worst QB performance on the list. 124 yards 0tds low yards per catch. Every pass was a checkdown. If it wasnt for ginn we could of lossed

Originally posted by communist:
Just go...

Originally posted by MiamiNiner:

Originally posted by ace130:
Lol Alex had one of the worst QB performance on the list. 124 yards 0tds low yards per catch. Every pass was a checkdown. If it wasnt for ginn we could of lossed

"could have lossed?"

Originally posted by ace130:
Ok Alex Smiths 124 yds 0tds 11 completions and low yds per catch were good as Aaron Rodgers 300 yds passing 3tds.

Originally posted by ace130:

Originally posted by communist:
Just go...

Ok Alex Smiths 124 yds 0tds 11 completions and low yds per catch were good as Aaron Rodgers 300 yds passing 3tds.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by boast:
where's the WIN watch thread? that's the only one that matters. you're delusional if you think otherwise.

Alex only gets credit on "L"s. "W"s are always Frank, ST or D.

Because normally he f**ks games up by throwing stupid ints or fumbling the ball helping us lose.

When we win, its not because he played phenomenal. He helps us win by not f**king up. That is nothing to brag about.

Most of our points were a result of good D and good special teams (I.E. good field position and TD returns), not because the offense was great led by A. Smith.

Originally posted by blm7754:
Interesting. It wasn't flashy, but it was a good performance by Smith. You have to be happy about the 0 turnovers, 0 sacks, and the rushing TD. But I will expecting more from week to week.

Originally posted by 49ersinMaryland:
Bring on the Alex Smith haters. So what if he didn't throw the ball downfield. I would rather have him take 2-3 yard checkdowns than throw into double coverage downfield. Alex just had a game where he had ZERO interceptions and ZERO sacks. That is an improvement.

Originally posted by communist:
Back-to-back postings with bullcrap-info.

Originally posted by ace130:

Originally posted by communist:

Back-to-back postings with bullcrap-info.

Just dont put Alex Smith with those Qbs. John Clayton was right when he ranked Alex Smith 28th or 30th or something