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Originally posted by rubbersoul80:
agree that Tolzien looks like a real QB. He's not overly mobile nor does he have a great arm. He definitely has great instincts though and is VERY accurate. Just look at the plays that were called for him, they were drop back passes. I think he's a rich man's Shawn Hill and I see him ending up the #2.

I'm inclined to agree.
I have to say that Tolzien looks like a natural back there. I was very impressed tonight.
Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Originally posted by rubbersoul80:
agree that Tolzien looks like a real QB. He's not overly mobile nor does he have a great arm. He definitely has great instincts though and is VERY accurate. Just look at the plays that were called for him, they were drop back passes. I think he's a rich man's Shawn Hill and I see him ending up the #2.

I'm inclined to agree.
i wouldnt say rich man hill or poor mans hill

he is almost exactly like shaun hill
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Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Originally posted by rubbersoul80:
agree that Tolzien looks like a real QB. He's not overly mobile nor does he have a great arm. He definitely has great instincts though and is VERY accurate. Just look at the plays that were called for him, they were drop back passes. I think he's a rich man's Shawn Hill and I see him ending up the #2.

I'm inclined to agree.
i wouldnt say rich man hill or poor mans hill

he is almost exactly like shaun hill

he has a quicker release and has more zip in his throws. people need to stop with this comparison.
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by Chief:
I was watching on my laptop with no sound and the replay they showed had a wide open tightend not getting throw to, screen or not.. I'm just stating the truth. As for the INT, I was only half paying attention but I know we didn't score and the Vikings got the ball. I'm not saying he sucks, he looks like he has potential, I just don't see Drew Brees or Don Johnson.




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Why wasn't he drafted?
he's got a better arm than Shaun Hill and is football smarter too IMO. He threw a laser today that Shaun Hill would've been incapable of.
[ Edited by rubbersoul80 on Aug 10, 2012 at 9:37 PM ]
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Originally posted by toeshawn:
Why wasn't he drafted?

why did Tom Brady get drafted in the 6th rd? not comparing the two. jus saying'.
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
At some point Kaep will be better than Tolzien and be a starter on this team. But right now I would take Tolzien as a backup to Smith.

No he won't. Unless you were willing to do another 7 years of Alex Smith like experiment all over again. So far CK's has shown very little. Take away where those two guys were drafted and put them side by side and ST just looks more like an NFL QB. It's been dissected to peaces in this site, but CK is too fundamentally and mechanically flawed. Too flawed IMO to ever be a good starting QB in the NFL. He sadly reminds me a lot of Alex Smith; athletically gifted, but someone that came from a weak conference, in a spread offense, who is mechanically flawed and etc. That 70 yard run was a thing of beauty, but it's going to mask, the errand/inaccurate throws, him locking on to receivers, and that awful slow delivery. If the 49ers want this guy to succeed they have wait, but I don't know if they're are willing to go that route as they did with Smith. The fact that he is in competition to be the back up QB tells me they're not.
[ Edited by Apone on Aug 10, 2012 at 9:55 PM ]
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Originally posted by rubbersoul80:
agree that Tolzien looks like a real QB. He's not overly mobile nor does he have a great arm. He definitely has great instincts though and is VERY accurate. Just look at the plays that were called for him, they were drop back passes. I think he's a rich man's Shawn Hill and I see him ending up the #2.

I'm inclined to agree.
i wouldnt say rich man hill or poor mans hill

he is almost exactly like shaun hill

he has a quicker release and has more zip in his throws. people need to stop with this comparison.

boast knows.

I'm not getting all preseason mvp or anything but the differences are obvious. And to say Tolzein can be nothing more than a good backup is an argument based on nothing. Like no QB in history has come up through the ranks and been successful.
Originally posted by Apone:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
At some point Kaep will be better than Tolzien and be a starter on this team. But right now I would take Tolzien as a backup to Smith.

No he won't. Unless you were willing to do another 7 years of Alex Smith like experiment all over again. So far CK's has shown very little. Take away where those two guys were drafted and put them side by side and ST just looks more like an NFL QB. It's been dissected to peaces in this site, but CK is too fundamentally and mechanically flawed. Too flawed IMO to ever be a good starting QB in the NFL. He sadly reminds me a lot of Alex Smith; athletically gifted, but someone that came from a weak conference, in a spread offense, who is mechanically flawed and etc. That 70 yard run was a thing of beauty, but it's going to mask, the errand/inaccurate throws, him locking on to receivers, and that awful slow delivery. If the 49ers want this guy to succeed they have wait, but I don't know if they're are willing to go that route as they did with Smith. The fact that he is in competition to be the back up QB tells me they're not.

Nah, with Harbaugh Kaep won't take 7 years like Smith. Kaep is in a much better situation than Smith was at the time. It will be on Kaep but if he can continued to improve, I don't see why he can't be a starter. He's a project no doubt.
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Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by toeshawn:
Why wasn't he drafted?

why did Tom Brady get drafted in the 6th rd? not comparing the two. jus saying'.

You're not saying s**t.
i'm officially on this bandwagon. 3rd, 4th string Defense, IDGAF. He took command of the offense and put the ball where it needed to be on almost every pass. All while having very limited reps with the offense. Harbaugh puts his attention on Tolz for a season, he'll be rippin s**t up. He needs to be our #2.
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
i'm officially on this bandwagon. 3rd, 4th string Defense, IDGAF. He took command of the offense and put the ball where it needed to be on almost every pass. All while having very limited reps with the offense. Harbaugh puts his attention on Tolz for a season, he'll be rippin s**t up. He needs to be our #2.

BOOM.
Originally posted by toeshawn:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by toeshawn:
Why wasn't he drafted?

why did Tom Brady get drafted in the 6th rd? not comparing the two. jus saying'.

You're not saying s**t.

Because Wisconsin lost to TCU in the Rose Bowl. -If Wisconsin had won, Tolzien would probably be a #3 pick, and Dalton would be a #5. Also, Tolzien had less exposure, and wasn't a starter until his Junior year (these little things can cloud judgement in scouting departments).

The draft is a gamble, and the system fails just as much as it successes (it's frugal, and unforgiving).