Originally posted by Afrikan:
you're not always going to be able to keep a good OC for more than one year if he is perused as top coach. So because they couldn't do that...they brought back Holster FOR Alex...Alex wanted it. They brought back Jimmy Raye FOR Alex..."just so he could have the same OC twice" whoopdy do.
Tha'ts not true. Manning, Rodgers, Brady, etc have all had the same coordinator or same offense for most, if not all, of their career.
eventually the QB is going to have to come through on his own...if he is a good QB, his natural ability should make the transition easier....on top of having good weapons around him.
Fair enough. But we KNEW when we drafted Alex that he was a guy that was going to succeed IF we did the OPPOSITE of what you just described. He needed a strong supporting cast, consistent coaching, and an offense that catered to his strength. His old coach said so more or less. So who is more of a bust? The QB that's trying to do something he can't or the organization that's been consistently trying to fit a square peg in a round hole? We all can more or less agree that Alex was never a true #1 pick QB. He's fortunate to get picked that high and at best...he SHOULD have gone (ironically) where Rodgers went (late 1st round) or early 2nd round @ BEST.
Also the only reason I brought up those former OC was because you would think he would have learned basic QBing from them...basic fundamentals...basic QBing mechanics....even if it were just one year with said coaches.
It's been documented (by mostly Alex unless he's lying, and Mike Johnson a little bit) that no one ever really worked on his mechanics with him. This is the first time we're seeing much improved mechanics and a coach that (can) actively teaches him better mechanics.
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Look I'm not saying Alex is good or great but it really shouldn't even be a debate as to the reasons he's all f**ked up. Alex is EXACTLY who we thought he was (and who is coach said he was) back in 05.
When I go and recruit new people I make sure to match their skill set to certain managers. Those managers then make the call whether to match the noobs to certain area/branches/or clients. When we call the new employees references...we ask them to describe the new persons strengths, weaknesses and what helped them succeed. Now imagine taking that info...then doing the exact opposite...then blaming the employee for being unsuccessful. Sure a couple here and there will break through and shine/succeed either way but those are the EXCEPTION. Those guys are once in a blue moon. Alex isn't a "once in a bluemoon" employee/QB.
We can go back and forth on this all day and to a certain extent I do agree with you. I agree that you should "make it happen." But we all know that's just not a realistic expectation. The 49ers bungled the biggest investment they made. It's that easy.