Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by OptimusPrime52:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by OptimusPrime52:
so what you are saying is, its their ineptitude as head coaches that gives alex life still?
oh the irony is just massive on this one.
that "gave" Alex life still...passed tense....the rest is of course Alex's unwillingness to give up.
gives alex life, as in right now. if we had a proven offense with good coaches and smith played poorly then jh wouldnt have brought him back. its because jh knew how horrible the previous coaches and scheme were that he brought alex smith back. it wasnt hard for jh to see that alex could only do so much with what he had to work with.
then why didn't he bring Troy Smith back? or try to offer the Lions a 7th round pick for Shaun Hill..lol.......or get Rattay out of retirement? Alex Smith has had SuperBowl winning Mike McCarthy as Coach, SuperBowl winning Mike Martz as a coach, and SuperBowl winning Norve Turner as a coach....its not like Alex has had scrubs all of his career. The front office has brought in these coaches...as well as players to surround him with who turned into Probowlers.
yall act like Alex has been playing for the old Browns or old Lions for most of his career or something.
LOL. Come on! We haven't been much better. Pointing to Turner and Martz is pretty silly -- all had all-world starting casts when they made the Super Bowl. McCarthy's team we don't know yet as far as HOF status for guys, but.. still a VERY good team.
When Martz coached the Lions, he couldn't do anything with them. In St. Louis he coached Former All-Stars and/or Future Hall-of-Famers in Warner, Faulk, Bruce, Torry Holt, and an amazing OL featuring Orlando Pace, Adam Timmerman, Tom Nutten, and Andy McCollum.
Norv Turner coached a monster offense that featured Hall of Famers or Pro-Bowlers galore -- Troy Aikman, Michael Irvin, Alvin Harper, Emmitt Smith, Daryl Johnston, Jay Novacek, Mark Stepnoski, Nate Newton, Erik Williams (four time pro bowler), and Mark Tuinei (two time All-Pro).
Alex Smith NEVER "had Martz" -- Smith's shoulder was sawed in half by a wire left over from surgery and was placed on IR that year. You can only argue he "had Turner" for one year. A year in which he was surrounded by a set of starters that featured Arnaz Battle and Antonio Bryant as starting receivers, and players like Kwame Harris (out of the league), Justin Smiley (out of the league), and Jonas Jennings (out of the league) on his offensive line. I'm not saying Alex is a good QB, but the "he failed under good coaching" argument is COMPLETELY invalid, based on the support just mentioned.
When was the last time our OL had a Pro-Bowler? When was the last time we had a pro bowl wide receiver? When was the last time we even had a 1000 yard receiver?
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Sep 2, 2011 at 3:02 PM ]