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Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
The word "thankless" comes to mind.
This is why I will never go into politics. Well, that and....other things.
Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
You act as if having these coaches for ONE season made all the difference.Your argument would hold more weight if, say, Smith had one of those coaches his entire career and STILL sucked. But that's not the case. Countless commentators, sports writers, and coaches have said that having a different coordinator every...single...year is a detriment to ANY QB. So they're all "Alex fan boys?" C'mon man. Just admit that the problem with Alex Smith is BIGGER than Alex Smith. The 49ers completely f**ked up his development and now we have damaged goods. It is what it is.
LOL it's like telling a soldier he shouldn't have PTSS because, "well at one point you had a normal life right? So one year of battle and now you're all f**ked up? Pshhhh Iraqxcuses!"
Originally posted by Joecool:And Under Norv Alex showed his most progress in being a QB and the following season regressed when Norv went south. I just don't see why you Joe and others are so blind to the simple fact that Alex isn't as shotty as you guys say he is.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:Nolan lost the team with a combination of that and mocking Jonas Jenning's crawl on the field from pain. Jonas was never the same, mentally, after that and obviously did not want much to do with Nolan. Nolan, a guy who seemed like a straight shooter turned out to be very immature.
Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
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As it turned out, it didn't matter because Smith, just a couple of weeks later, while throwing a deep ball in practice, broke a bone in his shoulder. A wire left behind from his surgery sawed the bone in half, requiring more surgery, and ending the quarterback's fourth season.
WTF
That's freaking messed up. Nolan tries to make Smith play with three torn ligaments. Then after he has surgery, the next year a wire saws his shoulder in half.
Looking back at what Smith had to go through with Nolan, it is unbelievable that he is still even a football player.
I don't think it would be stretching the truth to say that I have been one of the more consistent supporters of Smith from the standpoint of looking at how handicapped he was by poor coaching. Now, every time I recall some of the things he went through, like a surgical procedure gone wrong, it only makes me hope all the more that he does well after all of this. I have just seen so many players that have struggled come back to do well once they get good coaching that it is thrilling to see a performance like he put on last night. It was not all that far from the way Montana would have performed in similar circumstances...and I don't throw that around loosely.
Alex not showing NFL ability had a lot to do with it also. McCarthy and Norv aren't exactly "poor coaching". Nolan didn't have his hands on the offense then.
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
All I know is if I see one more batted pass from this guy I'm gonna uppercut someone, it seems to happen to him more than any other qb
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Just got back from the club....alittle tipsy......MARK MY WORD! Alex will have a fine season... 3000+yrds, 20tds, under 10ints
book it!
Originally posted by ninerfan29:
Originally posted by Joecool:And Under Norv Alex showed his most progress in being a QB and the following season regressed when Norv went south. I just don't see why you Joe and others are so blind to the simple fact that Alex isn't as shotty as you guys say he is.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:Nolan lost the team with a combination of that and mocking Jonas Jenning's crawl on the field from pain. Jonas was never the same, mentally, after that and obviously did not want much to do with Nolan. Nolan, a guy who seemed like a straight shooter turned out to be very immature.
Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
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As it turned out, it didn't matter because Smith, just a couple of weeks later, while throwing a deep ball in practice, broke a bone in his shoulder. A wire left behind from his surgery sawed the bone in half, requiring more surgery, and ending the quarterback's fourth season.
That's freaking messed up. Nolan tries to make Smith play with three torn ligaments. Then after he has surgery, the next year a wire saws his shoulder in half.
Looking back at what Smith had to go through with Nolan, it is unbelievable that he is still even a football player.
I don't think it would be stretching the truth to say that I have been one of the more consistent supporters of Smith from the standpoint of looking at how handicapped he was by poor coaching. Now, every time I recall some of the things he went through, like a surgical procedure gone wrong, it only makes me hope all the more that he does well after all of this. I have just seen so many players that have struggled come back to do well once they get good coaching that it is thrilling to see a performance like he put on last night. It was not all that far from the way Montana would have performed in similar circumstances...and I don't throw that around loosely.
Alex not showing NFL ability had a lot to do with it also. McCarthy and Norv aren't exactly "poor coaching". Nolan didn't have his hands on the offense then.
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Just got back from the club....alittle tipsy......MARK MY WORD! Alex will have a fine season... 3000+yrds, 20tds, under 10ints
book it!
Originally posted by Shaj:
Frank Gore had a breakout year, and Alex had a very average year that he should have at least had his rookie year. Also, after Antonio Bryant left the team, he hammered Alex for being an awful QB that couldn't get anything done. Somebody find the quote, I can't find it, but I remember reading it. That was not some wonderful year for Alex, it was just a very, very, very average year, and it was way below average for someone who was selected #1 overall and had Frank Gore as his RB.