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Can we give some props to Trent Baalke?

Can we give some props to Trent Baalke?

.....................AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!

HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Originally posted by RedWaltz24:
Originally posted by AKfanster:
Originally posted by niners9ers:
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
49ers committed $16 mil in 2011 to Akers, Rogers, Goodwin, Whitner, Edwards, Williams. Raiders committed $16 mil in 2011 to Michael Huff.

Looks Like Baalke Does Have A Plan



I saw that also. Puts things in perspective. I don't agree that Baalke had/has a plan, I think he got lucky and was able to snatch Whitner away from Cincy at the last min. Trying to claim "it was all apart of the plan" is BS

It's amazing how ignorant of simple economics some people are by saying that all these signings were not part of the "plan."

When a market is over-flooded with sellers, as this year was with free agents due to the opting out of the CBA last year that caused a lot of 4 year vets to miss FA, it causes the market to be soft. When a market is soft, that means there are more sellers than there are buyers, so a lot of quality sellers (FA's) would be left after the initial frenzied rush. Not only that, but you are more likely to get good value, since those sellers are desperate to sell their product and are willing to take less for their services.

Whereas some teams over-paid for the services of players because they got caught up in the FA rush or are looking to corner-the-market in FA to "buy a championship," the Niners, who have a new system (HC, GM, etc.), waited and capitalized on the value left behind, thus not only getting the most for their money, but also getting players that would normally demand more in a normal market year, with the option to extend or re-sign these players after this year if they preform very well because they will have the cap to do so, since they didn't waste it on flashy names.

Signing Asomungha for a crazy price would have been "sexy," but for just $4mil more than his $12mil/year tag, the Niners got a pretty good SS, a very good WR, a very good center, a good corner, and some other important contributing pieces. That is what this team needs right now, not a large splashy name, but to fill holes and replace Nolan/Singletary guys with Harbaugh/Baalke guys.

It's never smart to over-pay someone. You have to put a value on their service and then try to get the best deal... it will pay-off in the end.

It's all part of the plan. Simple.

You couldn't have said put it any better, you are exactly correct.
pretty much nailed it. stayed cool and calm, while others lost their head.

spending huge money on aso would have been ill advised. our window will come when harbaugh has his qb. and now i trust baalke to do what is needed when the time comes.

i believe.
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All of these recent signings are upgrades from last season.

Rogers = better cover man than Clements.

Whitner = better than Goldson

Williams = better than "who?"

Edwards = better than Crabtree who was never close to a #1. At least Edwards has played like a #1 in the past.

Goodwin = better than Baas.

Add in the fact that Aldon is looking very strong as a pass rusher in practice...and this looks MUCH better than a week ago.

Still a long way to go before this team catches up with the rest of the league but at least these developments look well managed and positive.
Originally posted by dj43:
All of these recent signings are upgrades from last season.

Rogers = better cover man than Clements.

Whitner = better than Goldson

Williams = better than "who?"

Edwards = better than Crabtree who was never close to a #1. At least Edwards has played like a #1 in the past.

Goodwin = better than Baas.

Add in the fact that Aldon is looking very strong as a pass rusher in practice...and this looks MUCH better than a week ago.

Still a long way to go before this team catches up with the rest of the league but at least these developments look well managed and positive.

i still dont think we have a true #1 but we have 3 #2 who are good at different things

crabtree perfect fir for WCO makes great cuts and hands CAN be good (just inconsistent but i think it was chemistry issues from not practicing with smith)

braylon has speed and good hands

morgan is a great possesion WR


also dont forget VD and delante
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Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by dj43:
All of these recent signings are upgrades from last season.
Rogers = better cover man than Clements.

Whitner = better than Goldson

Williams = better than "who?"

Edwards = better than Crabtree who was never close to a #1. At least Edwards has played like a #1 in the past.

Goodwin = better than Baas.

Add in the fact that Aldon is looking very strong as a pass rusher in practice...and this looks MUCH better than a week ago.

Still a long way to go before this team catches up with the rest of the league but at least these developments look well managed and positive.

i still dont think we have a true #1 but we have 3 #2 who are good at different things

crabtree perfect fir for WCO makes great cuts and hands CAN be good (just inconsistent but i think it was chemistry issues from not practicing with smith)

braylon has speed and good hands

morgan is a great possesion WR
also dont forget VD and delante

+1 re: Upgrades

I'm happy to let these guys go except I liked Baas but sounds like he got a big payday so okay. Goldson's got a probowl mouth coming out of a mediocre players body. Clements is a class guy but I think he's just getting old. Thank god we got a real #1 receiver in Edwards for this season. Crabtree looked great in college but he's done nothing but run wrong routes and been perennially injured. I can see him asking for big $$$ in the future and leaving.

Let's see, minus Rachal, our O-line looks pretty awesome compared to previous years. Is Morgan on the bubble with all the wideouts competing now?

I think we got a pass rusher in Aldon Smith finally and I think RJF will continue to do a good job with Franklin gone. And like you said more talent in the backfield than a long time. Do we actually have a competent passing defense?? discuss.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I'll say A- now. B+ at least.

B+ MAYBE A-

I'd STILL like it if we had gotten a lock down corner and pushed spencer down to nickle. I'm happy with the rest of it though.
I'd give it a B+. He did a very good job all things considering. I would only give him an A if he did an out of this world job, which he didn't do. I'd give the Eagles an A. The Rams and Seahawks an A- etc.
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
I'd give it a B+. He did a very good job all things considering. I would only give him an A if he did an out of this world job, which he didn't do. I'd give the Eagles an A. The Rams and Seahawks an A- etc.

Agree. I think he was patient and did a great job filling holes and not breaking the bank for players. Can't wait to see this team play
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
.....................AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!

HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Great part of that movie,lol.
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
I'd give it a B+. He did a very good job all things considering. I would only give him an A if he did an out of this world job, which he didn't do. I'd give the Eagles an A. The Rams and Seahawks an A- etc.

Agree. I think he was patient and did a great job filling holes and not breaking the bank for players. [u]Can't wait to see this team play


[ Edited by 49ERwhiner on Aug 6, 2011 at 9:04 AM ]
There is no question that in terms of money for value, Baalke dominated FA.

Whether we upgraded, stayed the same or regressed remains to be seen until the season starts.

I would vote that we upgraded, maybe not significantly talent-wise (aside from the WR position which is a huge upgrade to the group overall) but in terms of consistency on the defensive side of the ball.
No doubt Baalke did a nice job of adding solid players that we needed to our roster without breaking the bank. We are really in a nice position here as we addressed our main areas and have saved quite a bit of money doing so. My outlook on the season is much more optimistic than it was a week ago.
Originally posted by dj43:
All of these recent signings are upgrades from last season.

Rogers = better cover man than Clements.

Whitner = better than Goldson

Williams = better than "who?"

Edwards = better than Crabtree who was never close to a #1. At least Edwards has played like a #1 in the past.

Goodwin = better than Baas.

Add in the fact that Aldon is looking very strong as a pass rusher in practice...and this looks MUCH better than a week ago.

Still a long way to go before this team catches up with the rest of the league but at least these developments look well managed and positive.

I don't agree that Goodwin is better than Baas. Goodwin is a quick band-aid and I can foresee us drafting a C in the near term.

-9fA
Again, I don't think we can grade Baalke's performance until we actually see some games played with the new guys. That being said, I've been really impressed with how we approached this FA period. As the economics lesson a few posts back pointed out, the market was flooded, and that enabled us to address needs without over spending. Baalke took advantage of a unique situation created by the lockout. I'd say fairly well played for a new GM.

I also like how we didn't over commit to our acquisitions. The more proven guys get 3 year deals, which allows the team time to address those spots for the future through the draft, while the guys with a question mark or two are on one year deals. It will be interesting to see how the FO handles that, in the event that Edwards or Rogers are having really strong years at the midpoint of the season.

Lastly, someone on here suggested that the Whitner vs Goldson situation involved more luck than anything. While I agree that Whitner's availability was fortunate, it should be noted that the team had intended to resign Goldson all along, but at a specific price. When it appeared that Goldson wasn't going to come off his demands for more money, the team went out and aggressively pursued another quality player to take his spot. They managed to essentially steal him from another team, and didn't have to break the bank to do so. So, while Whitner may not have been the plan from the start, I think this move shows a nice ability to react to a situation and adjust your plan to fit the circumstances. Or, as Gunny Highway would put it, "you improvise, you adapt, you overcome."

Overall, I'm impressed with the moves on paper. Let's see how they play out during the season.