Training Camp 2011-2012 | Page 629

global_nomad · 2011-07-21T13:29:34-07:00

By the end of the night we shall see if the lockout is over. So here we go. Only 7 days until training camp, 22 days until first preseason game 0-1 QBs on the roster

Aug 8, 2012 at 9:24 AM

#9421

eastie
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Originally posted by susweel:
what was his 3rd down conversion rate ?

You mean what was "the teams" third down conversion rate?

Aug 8, 2012 at 9:32 AM

#9422

Memphis9er
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Originally posted by eastie:
Originally posted by susweel:
what was his 3rd down conversion rate ?

You mean what was "the teams" third down conversion rate?

He knows what he typed, which is even more retarded considering he claims to have played football at a high level as a youth. Oh well, Sus is what he is and is one of the more tolerable of the trollers.

Aug 8, 2012 at 9:47 AM

#9423

cciowa
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by susweel:
what was his 3rd down conversion rate ?

You mean what was "the teams" third down conversion rate?

He knows what he typed, which is even more retarded considering he claims to have played football at a high level as a youth. Oh well, Sus is what he is and is one of the more tolerable of the trollers.

sus is not a troller. He is a good poster and a good fan. Just cuz he has concerns with kyle w, crabs and alex does not make him a troller.. As i said before,, he just has alot of people inside of him

. but he is not a troller in my opinion. he and memphis are two of my favorite posters

Aug 8, 2012 at 9:47 AM

#9424

Young2Rice
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Originally posted by eastie:
Originally posted by susweel:
what was his 3rd down conversion rate ?

You mean what was "the teams" third down conversion rate?

The team's 3rd down conversion rate has been the bottom of be barrell for the past few seasons. The only time we made improvements in that area is when the team had somebody beside #11 under center. Coincidence? Maybe.

Aug 8, 2012 at 9:49 AM

#9425

Mr.Mcgibblets
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Originally posted by cciowa:
sus is not a troller. He is a good poster and a good fan. Just cuz he has concerns with kyle w, crabs and alex does not make him a troller.. As i said before,, he just has alot of people inside of him . but he is not a troller in my opinion. he and memphis are two of my favorite posters

Did not like at first, but after some time here, I think he's harmless and just has fun with people. Maybe trolling by definition, I don't know. But yeah, he ain't so bad.

Aug 8, 2012 at 9:50 AM

#9426

smithgdwg
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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
The team's 3rd down conversion rate has been the bottom of be barrell for the past few seasons. The only time we made improvements in that area is when the team had somebody beside #11 under center. Coincidence? Maybe.

And when we had Gore in the backfield and VD as a TE... Coincidence? Maybe.

Aug 8, 2012 at 9:55 AM

#9427

Mr.Mcgibblets
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Originally posted by smithgdwg:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
The team's 3rd down conversion rate has been the bottom of be barrell for the past few seasons. The only time we made improvements in that area is when the team had somebody beside #11 under center. Coincidence? Maybe.

And when we had Gore in the backfield and VD as a TE... Coincidence? Maybe.

No, he's right! He found the solution to our problems!!!

Bring back Shaun Hill !!!! A superior QB !!!!

Aug 8, 2012 at 10:24 AM

#9428

mkmasn
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Originally posted by smithgdwg:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
The team's 3rd down conversion rate has been the bottom of be barrell for the past few seasons. The only time we made improvements in that area is when the team had somebody beside #11 under center. Coincidence? Maybe.

And when we had Gore in the backfield and VD as a TE... Coincidence? Maybe.

And 5 OL blocking, with a couple WRs split out. Then we were awesome.

Aug 8, 2012 at 10:28 AM

#9429

NineFourNiner
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Originally posted by dtcomposer:

Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
Yep. Alex spent every single minute that he was awake for 8 seasons studying this new playbook. Spending even 30 minutes a day on his mechanics was impossible.

This is so dumb (the argument). Every QB works on their fundamentals. Alex has worked on his fundamentals, but hasn't had as much time as many (this is a fact) because of learning a different playbook every season. End of story.

It is logical to assume, knowing Alex's reputation as a hard and diligent worker, that he was doing everything he could think of to get better. Because of these facts you have to assume that any new fundamentals were either not known to Alex, or have been further refined with competent coaching. Can we please just move on from this stupid argument?

Smith developed bad habits post-surgery (per the throwing guru). The guru analyzed this and helped Smith try to clean those things up.

Kind of surprised that some bash a guy for going the extra mile (like Brees) in trying to improve.

Aug 8, 2012 at 10:34 AM

#9430

qnnhan7
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Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by dtcomposer:

Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
Yep. Alex spent every single minute that he was awake for 8 seasons studying this new playbook. Spending even 30 minutes a day on his mechanics was impossible.

This is so dumb (the argument). Every QB works on their fundamentals. Alex has worked on his fundamentals, but hasn't had as much time as many (this is a fact) because of learning a different playbook every season. End of story.

It is logical to assume, knowing Alex's reputation as a hard and diligent worker, that he was doing everything he could think of to get better. Because of these facts you have to assume that any new fundamentals were either not known to Alex, or have been further refined with competent coaching. Can we please just move on from this stupid argument?

Smith developed bad habits post-surgery (per the throwing guru). The guru analyzed this and helped Smith try to clean those things up.

Kind of surprised that some bash a guy for going the extra mile (like Brees) in trying to improve.

I see it as a tweak. Not a detrimental problem of his mechanics. It was overreacted and over analyzed by both side. It's the reason why he had put it off in place of learning the new offense last year. It was recommended by Brees who is his friend to further refine this drop back and throwing motion. People need to chill and not make it more than what it is.

[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Aug 8, 2012 at 10:35 AM ]

Aug 8, 2012 at 10:47 AM

#9431

ninertico
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LMJ just because of when he's going to play. He most likely will be playing most of the second half especially that fourth quarter against scrubs. If our OL can make holes, he's gone!!! He will become the leading RB for the preseason just like our past winners.

Aug 8, 2012 at 10:52 AM

#9432

Young2Rice
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Originally posted by oldman9er:

Originally posted by smithgdwg:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
The team's 3rd down conversion rate has been the bottom of be barrell for the past few seasons. The only time we made improvements in that area is when the team had somebody beside #11 under center. Coincidence? Maybe.

And when we had Gore in the backfield and VD as a TE... Coincidence? Maybe.

No, he's right! He found the solution to our problems!!!

Bring back Shaun Hill !!!! A superior QB !!!!

You are putting words in my mouth. In no way am i saying Hill is the better QB. We are talking about third down conversions.

All things equal, we had better third down conversion rates when Hill was the QB. That doesn't mean Hill is better, just maybe on third downs?

[ Edited by Young2Rice on Aug 8, 2012 at 10:58 AM ]

Aug 8, 2012 at 10:56 AM

#9433

Young2Rice
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Originally posted by smithgdwg:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
The team's 3rd down conversion rate has been the bottom of be barrell for the past few seasons. The only time we made improvements in that area is when the team had somebody beside #11 under center. Coincidence? Maybe.

And when we had Gore in the backfield and VD as a TE... Coincidence? Maybe.

There aren't any statistics to show whether having Gore or VD in the lineup increased or decreasedour third down conversion rate.

There are stats that show, however, that our third down conversion rates increased when Smith was out.

Look, Smith isn't perfect. When he's under center, we are historically terrible at third downs. Its something he can improve on.

[ Edited by Young2Rice on Aug 8, 2012 at 10:56 AM ]

Aug 8, 2012 at 11:06 AM

#9434

Afrikan
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I'm a huge T.O. fan...but yeah...

damn shame I know yal T.O. haters will be using this through out the season if they struggle.

Aug 8, 2012 at 11:13 AM

#9435

NineFourNiner
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Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Look, Smith isn't perfect. When he's under center, we are historically terrible at third downs. Its something he can improve on.

Agreed as to the bolded. This better be the year we improve in this area.