Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by WRATHman44:Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:Originally posted by WRATHman44:Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:Originally posted by SF4EVA:Originally posted by genus49:Originally posted by SFL49ER:
Slice it howeveryou want but this defense is going to take a major hit with Manny Lawson not returning. The worst decision from the front office in 5 years in regards to 'letting players walk'. I love the front office moves whensigning outside free agents, but damn we resigned the wrong f**king OLB.
SAY GOODBYE to the run defense that compared to the Ravens, because Willis can't do it all himself. Because Aldon might not be ready yet in run support.
I am disgusted York and Baalke didnt see how big Lawson was to our defensive accomplishments
First of all...free agency hasn't started yet so we don't know whether they will let him walk or not.
Second I'm sure they'd like to keep him but he'll probably want a lot more money than he's worth to THIS team. I love Manny and will always support him as long as he's not facing the 49ers but as a 3-4 OLB he has been a disappointment as a pass rusher which is crutial to this team. If he asks for too much money they'll have to let him go.
I dont think he will ever be the # 1 rusher no matter what 3-4 or 4-3 he needs that Mario williams type to set him free.I would like to keep him and put him on the other side and let Aldon have that spot. He may not be htat next Great Pass rusher but he can do everthing else damn good. Letting Manny and Franklin go i think would be a huge mistake. Players wanting to test the market is a good thing cuz normally the find oout the truth about thier value. I hope he has the chance to see the expectations of the d before jumping ship to the highest bidder.
I'm going to be so pisssed if he goes to another team and tears it up...
Tear it up how? I could see him turning into a tackling machine for a 4-3 defense, but I don't see him becoming a sack master for any 3-4 team, unless they already have a beast on the other side, and the scheme allows him to come free. He just hasn't shown the ability to win in one-on-one pass rush situations.
Good point! I kind of thought the same thing after I posted. I guess if he goes to another team that does really well, he will probably get the recogintion he deserves which is ultimately Manny being Manny. I could see him becoming a double diget sack guy though. Manny is in the backfield alot, but he just doesn't get the sack. If he had someone pushing the QB to his side I think he is a 10 plus sack guy. Too often teams double team JSmith and there is no pressure from the other side to sandwich the qb. Too bad, I really would like to see him paired with Aldon Smith...
Yeah, I def prefer him to Parys, but most of the time I see Manny pressuring the QB, he is beating an RB or TE.
I'd prefer Manny in a Nolan/Manusky 3-4, 4-3 or even Cover 2 but in Fangio's defense, the focus will be on the pass rush in route to stopping the run. If/when Manny chooses to leave (perhaps, prompted by the FO not offering him a contract or of Manny's own choosing), the pass rushers left on this team who will take center-focus will be: Aldon Smith, Brooks, Haralson (maybe LaBoy) and newcomers such as Gibson, Miller or other UDFA's with potential. The goal will be to develop two of these guys into FT starters.
Aldon Smith (WILL) - I think this guy will start right out of the gate but share time with Brooks/Haralson to keep him fresh while he grows into a FT starter.
LaBoy - is a guy who used to be a starter in a like-defensive scheme and I'm guessing he will be rsigned
Brooks - should get every opportunity to become a FT starter and no longer a predictable 3rd down pass rushing specialist at SAM
Haralson (either as a starter or rotating pass rusher where he shined the most) - not high on BUT he could be more than serviceable in a better scheme and effective pass rush from the rest of the front 6. He is proven off the bench at least not to mention he's signed long term so he isn't going anywhere (his contract may even help reach the "floor.")
Both the SAM/WILL will be interchangeable in Fangio's scheme.
While Aldon is an unknown, I do see plenty of upside in Brooks, LaBoy and even Thaddeus Gibson as good "fits" in Fangio's system (no more square pegs/round hole-players). Brooks has the most complete package right now, no doubt and Aldon may have the most upside. LaBoy is a very good pass rusher but is suspect against the run and that may be his downfall. Gibson has a load of potential and we'll see who else Fangio picks up in the UDFA class or who else is currently on the roster (e.g. Bruce Miller?).
It's going to be interesting to see how this all plays out, no doubt!
I am interested in seeing how Gibson does in camp, and what kind of shape Brroks is in when he shows up. I think Haralson is terrible as a passrusher, as his 8 sack year was littered with coverage sacks or situations where another defender flushed the QB directly into him. If he was any good, he would get monster numbers, because he plays next to Justin Smith, who collapses that side of the line. On top of that, he has been terrible at setting the edge against the run. Rewatch the games and see how many times he gets caught ducking inside, instead of setting a proper edge. It's depressing.