Originally posted by Young2Rice:Originally posted by dtg_9er:
In almost every thread about Smith I have made a point of wanting the coaches to go out and find the best QBs they can. You claim I want to give Smith another chance...yeah, to compete for the job. If there is someone better great. Cut your losses and move on only works if you move on to something better, not just different.
Plunkett was the MVP of Super Bowl XV on that stacked team you mentioned. I would take a young Jim Plunkett. Or an Archie Manning (never), Fran Tarkenton (4th), Jim Kelly (5th), Dan Fouts (9th) or John Elway (11th) some QBs who are considered good to great who did not do well early in their careers. Some did very well later in their careers while some stayed on bad teams and did not.
What? Those guys played good despite some of the not so good seasons bro. The team sucked but the QBs you mentioned were good to great.
By his 4th year he had 22TD and and 11 int with a 91.8 rating. This was in 64 where they went 8-5 that season and the QB and WR were killed by the D.
This guy blew out of the gates his rookie year with 22 TD and 17 ints and a 86.5 rating.They finished 4-12 but you could tell he was legit his rookie year. He reminds be of Bradford.
He did start out slow. But by his 6th season he was looking good.
He may not have the stats, but this guy was a winner and a gunslinger. When the chips were down, he led the team from behind and lifted them to victories. He led the Broncos to a 41-21 record his first 5 years.
When the chips were down he lost in 86--he was sacked in the endzone, and then in 87 dazzled the crowd by completing 14 out of 38 in another loss, then was blown out by the 9ers 55-10 in 89. Fourteen years into his career he finally threw off his tie with Jim Kelly as being the biggest losers in Super Bowl history.
I listed the players I did because many called them losers during their early careers and then they proved themselves (the number after their name is the year they gained credibility). Archie never did prove himself but many agreed he was the least lucky QB in history because his team was soooo very bad. I still have friends who argue Fran Tarkenton was a terrible QB. So...all in the eye of the beholder and before writing off a player you might want to know a bit about history.