Team Workouts Thread

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Imagine if most of those passes were actually catch-able, meaning not behind him or over his head and were actually on target in stride..........man he would be a probowler

Bad definition. Not mutually exclusive.

When the ball hits your hands....

Yes your correct QB and Wr are not mutually exclusive. The wr success is dependent on the qb having success and vice versa. That's what i was getting at.

I didnt clarify myself good enough, i guess. One good example, of the many, would be the time Alex threw the ball to Frank Gore when they played against the Saints. It was a simple pass to the flat and Alex was unable to throw it accurately. Yeah the "ball hit his hands" but was not catch-able and led to a interception.

Im sure you're now going to tell me that Frank Gore is not a good receiver out of the backfield and should have done a better job to an amazing catch.

reason why is probally because his route running isnt that good before you say its an excuse look at the facts:

alex to vernon were 40 for 60 which is 67%

alex to morgan were 34 for 51 also 67%

alex to walker were 15 of 22 also for 68%

alex to ziegler were 8 for 11 for 72%

alex to crabtree 38 for 67 for 58%


so every wr that PRACTICES WITH ALEX GETS A QB % OF OVER 66%

Is this new to you. Actually, that was one of the knocks on Crabtree when he came out. The gimmicky spread offense that he came out of didnt require this of him. I've heard numerous people mention, that he was able to break off his route to open spots on the field. He kinda of was free on the field to a certain degree. Hes only played a year and a half and you guys are ready to give up on him. Wait till there is actual practices, so that Harbaugh or wr coach can help him with this aspect of his game better. Harbaugh is not there at these functions and i dont expect Alex to be able to help him much, considering hes new to this playbook.....and we all now how hard its for Alex to grasp new playbooks....right?

This is all funny to me, that when Alex came out of his gimmicky college offense, we all gave him time to transition, including me. Some are giving him seven years to see what he can become, but Crabtree no, he only has one and a half seasons before his labeled a bust.

ok before you were talking about how inaccurate alex is and how its alexs fault that the passes to crabtree are behind him bounce of his hands etc..

my point was that it was probally due to bad route running because all of the other WRs he throw to are over 65% completiton precentage

It could be to bad route running or maybe THE FACT THAT ALEX IS NOT ACCURATE. I will rather go with the bigger sample size, Alex six years, instead of Crabtrees year and a half. I will rather see more of what crabtree has offer to make a judgment on his abilities. I've already seen enough of alex to make my own informed opinion.

dude look at the above post i proved that alex was pretty accurate with all the other WR and TE he had a comp % of 66 or better crabtree was the only one less than 60%

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Imagine if most of those passes were actually catch-able, meaning not behind him or over his head and were actually on target in stride..........man he would be a probowler

Bad definition. Not mutually exclusive.

When the ball hits your hands....

Yes your correct QB and Wr are not mutually exclusive. The wr success is dependent on the qb having success and vice versa. That's what i was getting at.

I didnt clarify myself good enough, i guess. One good example, of the many, would be the time Alex threw the ball to Frank Gore when they played against the Saints. It was a simple pass to the flat and Alex was unable to throw it accurately. Yeah the "ball hit his hands" but was not catch-able and led to a interception.

Im sure you're now going to tell me that Frank Gore is not a good receiver out of the backfield and should have done a better job to an amazing catch.

reason why is probally because his route running isnt that good before you say its an excuse look at the facts:

alex to vernon were 40 for 60 which is 67%

alex to morgan were 34 for 51 also 67%

alex to walker were 15 of 22 also for 68%

alex to ziegler were 8 for 11 for 72%

alex to crabtree 38 for 67 for 58%


so every wr that PRACTICES WITH ALEX GETS A QB % OF OVER 66%

Is this new to you. Actually, that was one of the knocks on Crabtree when he came out. The gimmicky spread offense that he came out of didnt require this of him. I've heard numerous people mention, that he was able to break off his route to open spots on the field. He kinda of was free on the field to a certain degree. Hes only played a year and a half and you guys are ready to give up on him. Wait till there is actual practices, so that Harbaugh or wr coach can help him with this aspect of his game better. Harbaugh is not there at these functions and i dont expect Alex to be able to help him much, considering hes new to this playbook.....and we all now how hard its for Alex to grasp new playbooks....right?

This is all funny to me, that when Alex came out of his gimmicky college offense, we all gave him time to transition, including me. Some are giving him seven years to see what he can become, but Crabtree no, he only has one and a half seasons before his labeled a bust.

ok before you were talking about how inaccurate alex is and how its alexs fault that the passes to crabtree are behind him bounce of his hands etc..

my point was that it was probally due to bad route running because all of the other WRs he throw to are over 65% completiton precentage

It could be to bad route running or maybe THE FACT THAT ALEX IS NOT ACCURATE. I will rather go with the bigger sample size, Alex six years, instead of Crabtrees year and a half. I will rather see more of what crabtree has offer to make a judgment on his abilities. I've already seen enough of alex to make my own informed opinion.

dude look at the above post i proved that alex was pretty accurate with all the other WR and TE he had a comp % of 66 or better crabtree was the only one less than 60%

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
im just not gonna hold my breath.

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by JayBee:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Imagine if most of those passes were actually catch-able, meaning not behind him or over his head and were actually on target in stride..........man he would be a probowler

Bad definition. Not mutually exclusive.

When the ball hits your hands....

Yes your correct QB and Wr are not mutually exclusive. The wr success is dependent on the qb having success and vice versa. That's what i was getting at.

I didnt clarify myself good enough, i guess. One good example, of the many, would be the time Alex threw the ball to Frank Gore when they played against the Saints. It was a simple pass to the flat and Alex was unable to throw it accurately. Yeah the "ball hit his hands" but was not catch-able and led to a interception.

Im sure you're now going to tell me that Frank Gore is not a good receiver out of the backfield and should have done a better job to an amazing catch.

reason why is probally because his route running isnt that good before you say its an excuse look at the facts:

alex to vernon were 40 for 60 which is 67%

alex to morgan were 34 for 51 also 67%

alex to walker were 15 of 22 also for 68%

alex to ziegler were 8 for 11 for 72%

alex to crabtree 38 for 67 for 58%


so every wr that PRACTICES WITH ALEX GETS A QB % OF OVER 66%

Is this new to you. Actually, that was one of the knocks on Crabtree when he came out. The gimmicky spread offense that he came out of didnt require this of him. I've heard numerous people mention, that he was able to break off his route to open spots on the field. He kinda of was free on the field to a certain degree. Hes only played a year and a half and you guys are ready to give up on him. Wait till there is actual practices, so that Harbaugh or wr coach can help him with this aspect of his game better. Harbaugh is not there at these functions and i dont expect Alex to be able to help him much, considering hes new to this playbook.....and we all now how hard its for Alex to grasp new playbooks....right?

This is all funny to me, that when Alex came out of his gimmicky college offense, we all gave him time to transition, including me. Some are giving him seven years to see what he can become, but Crabtree no, he only has one and a half seasons before his labeled a bust.

ok before you were talking about how inaccurate alex is and how its alexs fault that the passes to crabtree are behind him bounce of his hands etc..

my point was that it was probally due to bad route running because all of the other WRs he throw to are over 65% completiton precentage

LOL @ this.

Have you ever thought that Crabtree gets covered by the other team's top corner? Lets put Ziegler or Morgan as the number 1 and see how good their numbers look.

where did i say morgan should be our #1 WR or where did i say that morgan was better than crabtree and should be the #1 spot all i am saying is that crabtree has not put in any time or effort in to practice and get the route running right or get the timing right

you cant read a playbook to get that done right you have to go on the field and practice


look at the link i gave you before

first 3 games
alex to crabtree 6.6 rating

rest of season 95.4 rating

what does this prove?

after 3 games of getting chemistry with alex he was a decent #1 option

Originally posted by JayBee:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by JayBee:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Imagine if most of those passes were actually catch-able, meaning not behind him or over his head and were actually on target in stride..........man he would be a probowler

Bad definition. Not mutually exclusive.

When the ball hits your hands....

Yes your correct QB and Wr are not mutually exclusive. The wr success is dependent on the qb having success and vice versa. That's what i was getting at.

I didnt clarify myself good enough, i guess. One good example, of the many, would be the time Alex threw the ball to Frank Gore when they played against the Saints. It was a simple pass to the flat and Alex was unable to throw it accurately. Yeah the "ball hit his hands" but was not catch-able and led to a interception.

Im sure you're now going to tell me that Frank Gore is not a good receiver out of the backfield and should have done a better job to an amazing catch.

reason why is probally because his route running isnt that good before you say its an excuse look at the facts:

alex to vernon were 40 for 60 which is 67%

alex to morgan were 34 for 51 also 67%

alex to walker were 15 of 22 also for 68%

alex to ziegler were 8 for 11 for 72%

alex to crabtree 38 for 67 for 58%


so every wr that PRACTICES WITH ALEX GETS A QB % OF OVER 66%

Is this new to you. Actually, that was one of the knocks on Crabtree when he came out. The gimmicky spread offense that he came out of didnt require this of him. I've heard numerous people mention, that he was able to break off his route to open spots on the field. He kinda of was free on the field to a certain degree. Hes only played a year and a half and you guys are ready to give up on him. Wait till there is actual practices, so that Harbaugh or wr coach can help him with this aspect of his game better. Harbaugh is not there at these functions and i dont expect Alex to be able to help him much, considering hes new to this playbook.....and we all now how hard its for Alex to grasp new playbooks....right?

This is all funny to me, that when Alex came out of his gimmicky college offense, we all gave him time to transition, including me. Some are giving him seven years to see what he can become, but Crabtree no, he only has one and a half seasons before his labeled a bust.

ok before you were talking about how inaccurate alex is and how its alexs fault that the passes to crabtree are behind him bounce of his hands etc..

my point was that it was probally due to bad route running because all of the other WRs he throw to are over 65% completiton precentage

LOL @ this.

Have you ever thought that Crabtree gets covered by the other team's top corner? Lets put Ziegler or Morgan as the number 1 and see how good their numbers look.

where did i say morgan should be our #1 WR or where did i say that morgan was better than crabtree and should be the #1 spot all i am saying is that crabtree has not put in any time or effort in to practice and get the route running right or get the timing right

you cant read a playbook to get that done right you have to go on the field and practice


look at the link i gave you before

first 3 games
alex to crabtree 6.6 rating

rest of season 95.4 rating

what does this prove?

after 3 games of getting chemistry with alex he was a decent #1 option

It's really baffling to me that other QB's can establish chemistry right away with practice squad players (Brees, Romo, Manning, frigging Sam Bradford)... yet Alex and Crabs need multiple years to get chemistry?

I mean if Crabs played a game or two and had no preseason then I can understand all this chemistry talk but for pete's sake he's played 20+ games with Alex....WTF?

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by JayBee:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by JayBee:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Imagine if most of those passes were actually catch-able, meaning not behind him or over his head and were actually on target in stride..........man he would be a probowler

Bad definition. Not mutually exclusive.

When the ball hits your hands....

Yes your correct QB and Wr are not mutually exclusive. The wr success is dependent on the qb having success and vice versa. That's what i was getting at.

I didnt clarify myself good enough, i guess. One good example, of the many, would be the time Alex threw the ball to Frank Gore when they played against the Saints. It was a simple pass to the flat and Alex was unable to throw it accurately. Yeah the "ball hit his hands" but was not catch-able and led to a interception.

Im sure you're now going to tell me that Frank Gore is not a good receiver out of the backfield and should have done a better job to an amazing catch.

reason why is probally because his route running isnt that good before you say its an excuse look at the facts:

alex to vernon were 40 for 60 which is 67%

alex to morgan were 34 for 51 also 67%

alex to walker were 15 of 22 also for 68%

alex to ziegler were 8 for 11 for 72%

alex to crabtree 38 for 67 for 58%


so every wr that PRACTICES WITH ALEX GETS A QB % OF OVER 66%

Is this new to you. Actually, that was one of the knocks on Crabtree when he came out. The gimmicky spread offense that he came out of didnt require this of him. I've heard numerous people mention, that he was able to break off his route to open spots on the field. He kinda of was free on the field to a certain degree. Hes only played a year and a half and you guys are ready to give up on him. Wait till there is actual practices, so that Harbaugh or wr coach can help him with this aspect of his game better. Harbaugh is not there at these functions and i dont expect Alex to be able to help him much, considering hes new to this playbook.....and we all now how hard its for Alex to grasp new playbooks....right?

This is all funny to me, that when Alex came out of his gimmicky college offense, we all gave him time to transition, including me. Some are giving him seven years to see what he can become, but Crabtree no, he only has one and a half seasons before his labeled a bust.

ok before you were talking about how inaccurate alex is and how its alexs fault that the passes to crabtree are behind him bounce of his hands etc..

my point was that it was probally due to bad route running because all of the other WRs he throw to are over 65% completiton precentage

LOL @ this.

Have you ever thought that Crabtree gets covered by the other team's top corner? Lets put Ziegler or Morgan as the number 1 and see how good their numbers look.

where did i say morgan should be our #1 WR or where did i say that morgan was better than crabtree and should be the #1 spot all i am saying is that crabtree has not put in any time or effort in to practice and get the route running right or get the timing right

you cant read a playbook to get that done right you have to go on the field and practice


look at the link i gave you before

first 3 games
alex to crabtree 6.6 rating

rest of season 95.4 rating

what does this prove?

after 3 games of getting chemistry with alex he was a decent #1 option

It's really baffling to me that other QB's can establish chemistry right away with practice squad players (Brees, Romo, Manning, frigging Sam Bradford)... yet Alex and Crabs need multiple years to get chemistry?

I mean if Crabs played a game or two and had no preseason then I can understand all this chemistry talk but for pete's sake he's played 20+ games with Alex....WTF?

i think brady maning romo WRs all come to practice and TC

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by JayBee:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by JayBee:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Imagine if most of those passes were actually catch-able, meaning not behind him or over his head and were actually on target in stride..........man he would be a probowler

Bad definition. Not mutually exclusive.

When the ball hits your hands....

Yes your correct QB and Wr are not mutually exclusive. The wr success is dependent on the qb having success and vice versa. That's what i was getting at.

I didnt clarify myself good enough, i guess. One good example, of the many, would be the time Alex threw the ball to Frank Gore when they played against the Saints. It was a simple pass to the flat and Alex was unable to throw it accurately. Yeah the "ball hit his hands" but was not catch-able and led to a interception.

Im sure you're now going to tell me that Frank Gore is not a good receiver out of the backfield and should have done a better job to an amazing catch.

reason why is probally because his route running isnt that good before you say its an excuse look at the facts:

alex to vernon were 40 for 60 which is 67%

alex to morgan were 34 for 51 also 67%

alex to walker were 15 of 22 also for 68%

alex to ziegler were 8 for 11 for 72%

alex to crabtree 38 for 67 for 58%


so every wr that PRACTICES WITH ALEX GETS A QB % OF OVER 66%

Is this new to you. Actually, that was one of the knocks on Crabtree when he came out. The gimmicky spread offense that he came out of didnt require this of him. I've heard numerous people mention, that he was able to break off his route to open spots on the field. He kinda of was free on the field to a certain degree. Hes only played a year and a half and you guys are ready to give up on him. Wait till there is actual practices, so that Harbaugh or wr coach can help him with this aspect of his game better. Harbaugh is not there at these functions and i dont expect Alex to be able to help him much, considering hes new to this playbook.....and we all now how hard its for Alex to grasp new playbooks....right?

This is all funny to me, that when Alex came out of his gimmicky college offense, we all gave him time to transition, including me. Some are giving him seven years to see what he can become, but Crabtree no, he only has one and a half seasons before his labeled a bust.

ok before you were talking about how inaccurate alex is and how its alexs fault that the passes to crabtree are behind him bounce of his hands etc..

my point was that it was probally due to bad route running because all of the other WRs he throw to are over 65% completiton precentage

LOL @ this.

Have you ever thought that Crabtree gets covered by the other team's top corner? Lets put Ziegler or Morgan as the number 1 and see how good their numbers look.

where did i say morgan should be our #1 WR or where did i say that morgan was better than crabtree and should be the #1 spot all i am saying is that crabtree has not put in any time or effort in to practice and get the route running right or get the timing right

you cant read a playbook to get that done right you have to go on the field and practice


look at the link i gave you before

first 3 games
alex to crabtree 6.6 rating

rest of season 95.4 rating

what does this prove?

after 3 games of getting chemistry with alex he was a decent #1 option

It's really baffling to me that other QB's can establish chemistry right away with practice squad players (Brees, Romo, Manning, frigging Sam Bradford)... yet Alex and Crabs need multiple years to get chemistry?

I mean if Crabs played a game or two and had no preseason then I can understand all this chemistry talk but for pete's sake he's played 20+ games with Alex....WTF?

i think brady maning romo WRs all come to practice and TC

Originally posted by JayBee:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by JayBee:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by JayBee:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Imagine if most of those passes were actually catch-able, meaning not behind him or over his head and were actually on target in stride..........man he would be a probowler

Bad definition. Not mutually exclusive.

When the ball hits your hands....

Yes your correct QB and Wr are not mutually exclusive. The wr success is dependent on the qb having success and vice versa. That's what i was getting at.

I didnt clarify myself good enough, i guess. One good example, of the many, would be the time Alex threw the ball to Frank Gore when they played against the Saints. It was a simple pass to the flat and Alex was unable to throw it accurately. Yeah the "ball hit his hands" but was not catch-able and led to a interception.

Im sure you're now going to tell me that Frank Gore is not a good receiver out of the backfield and should have done a better job to an amazing catch.

reason why is probally because his route running isnt that good before you say its an excuse look at the facts:

alex to vernon were 40 for 60 which is 67%

alex to morgan were 34 for 51 also 67%

alex to walker were 15 of 22 also for 68%

alex to ziegler were 8 for 11 for 72%

alex to crabtree 38 for 67 for 58%


so every wr that PRACTICES WITH ALEX GETS A QB % OF OVER 66%

Is this new to you. Actually, that was one of the knocks on Crabtree when he came out. The gimmicky spread offense that he came out of didnt require this of him. I've heard numerous people mention, that he was able to break off his route to open spots on the field. He kinda of was free on the field to a certain degree. Hes only played a year and a half and you guys are ready to give up on him. Wait till there is actual practices, so that Harbaugh or wr coach can help him with this aspect of his game better. Harbaugh is not there at these functions and i dont expect Alex to be able to help him much, considering hes new to this playbook.....and we all now how hard its for Alex to grasp new playbooks....right?

This is all funny to me, that when Alex came out of his gimmicky college offense, we all gave him time to transition, including me. Some are giving him seven years to see what he can become, but Crabtree no, he only has one and a half seasons before his labeled a bust.

ok before you were talking about how inaccurate alex is and how its alexs fault that the passes to crabtree are behind him bounce of his hands etc..

my point was that it was probally due to bad route running because all of the other WRs he throw to are over 65% completiton precentage

LOL @ this.

Have you ever thought that Crabtree gets covered by the other team's top corner? Lets put Ziegler or Morgan as the number 1 and see how good their numbers look.

where did i say morgan should be our #1 WR or where did i say that morgan was better than crabtree and should be the #1 spot all i am saying is that crabtree has not put in any time or effort in to practice and get the route running right or get the timing right

you cant read a playbook to get that done right you have to go on the field and practice


look at the link i gave you before

first 3 games
alex to crabtree 6.6 rating

rest of season 95.4 rating

what does this prove?

after 3 games of getting chemistry with alex he was a decent #1 option

It's really baffling to me that other QB's can establish chemistry right away with practice squad players (Brees, Romo, Manning, frigging Sam Bradford)... yet Alex and Crabs need multiple years to get chemistry?

I mean if Crabs played a game or two and had no preseason then I can understand all this chemistry talk but for pete's sake he's played 20+ games with Alex....WTF?

i think brady maning romo WRs all come to practice and TC

LOL, how many passes do you really think Peyton threw to Blair White in TC? LOL.

When you have a good system and a good QB, you can lose key pieces but still not miss a beat. Pats, Chargers, Colts, etc.

I'm not saying chemistry doesn't matter, but Crabs and Alex have had more than enough time to establish chemistry...their lack of production has nothing to do with chemistry and more to do with poor play from both players.

Originally posted by JayBee:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by JayBee:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by JayBee:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Imagine if most of those passes were actually catch-able, meaning not behind him or over his head and were actually on target in stride..........man he would be a probowler

Bad definition. Not mutually exclusive.

When the ball hits your hands....

Yes your correct QB and Wr are not mutually exclusive. The wr success is dependent on the qb having success and vice versa. That's what i was getting at.

I didnt clarify myself good enough, i guess. One good example, of the many, would be the time Alex threw the ball to Frank Gore when they played against the Saints. It was a simple pass to the flat and Alex was unable to throw it accurately. Yeah the "ball hit his hands" but was not catch-able and led to a interception.

Im sure you're now going to tell me that Frank Gore is not a good receiver out of the backfield and should have done a better job to an amazing catch.

reason why is probally because his route running isnt that good before you say its an excuse look at the facts:

alex to vernon were 40 for 60 which is 67%

alex to morgan were 34 for 51 also 67%

alex to walker were 15 of 22 also for 68%

alex to ziegler were 8 for 11 for 72%

alex to crabtree 38 for 67 for 58%


so every wr that PRACTICES WITH ALEX GETS A QB % OF OVER 66%

Is this new to you. Actually, that was one of the knocks on Crabtree when he came out. The gimmicky spread offense that he came out of didnt require this of him. I've heard numerous people mention, that he was able to break off his route to open spots on the field. He kinda of was free on the field to a certain degree. Hes only played a year and a half and you guys are ready to give up on him. Wait till there is actual practices, so that Harbaugh or wr coach can help him with this aspect of his game better. Harbaugh is not there at these functions and i dont expect Alex to be able to help him much, considering hes new to this playbook.....and we all now how hard its for Alex to grasp new playbooks....right?

This is all funny to me, that when Alex came out of his gimmicky college offense, we all gave him time to transition, including me. Some are giving him seven years to see what he can become, but Crabtree no, he only has one and a half seasons before his labeled a bust.

ok before you were talking about how inaccurate alex is and how its alexs fault that the passes to crabtree are behind him bounce of his hands etc..

my point was that it was probally due to bad route running because all of the other WRs he throw to are over 65% completiton precentage

LOL @ this.

Have you ever thought that Crabtree gets covered by the other team's top corner? Lets put Ziegler or Morgan as the number 1 and see how good their numbers look.

where did i say morgan should be our #1 WR or where did i say that morgan was better than crabtree and should be the #1 spot all i am saying is that crabtree has not put in any time or effort in to practice and get the route running right or get the timing right

you cant read a playbook to get that done right you have to go on the field and practice


look at the link i gave you before

first 3 games
alex to crabtree 6.6 rating

rest of season 95.4 rating

what does this prove?

after 3 games of getting chemistry with alex he was a decent #1 option

It's really baffling to me that other QB's can establish chemistry right away with practice squad players (Brees, Romo, Manning, frigging Sam Bradford)... yet Alex and Crabs need multiple years to get chemistry?

I mean if Crabs played a game or two and had no preseason then I can understand all this chemistry talk but for pete's sake he's played 20+ games with Alex....WTF?

i think brady maning romo WRs all come to practice and TC

LOL, how many passes do you really think Peyton threw to Blair White in TC? LOL.

When you have a good system and a good QB, you can lose key pieces but still not miss a beat. Pats, Chargers, Colts, etc.

I'm not saying chemistry doesn't matter, but Crabs and Alex have had more than enough time to establish chemistry...their lack of production has nothing to do with chemistry and more to do with poor play from both players.

Originally posted by phatbutskinny:

Originally posted by JayBee:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by JayBee:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by JayBee:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Imagine if most of those passes were actually catch-able, meaning not behind him or over his head and were actually on target in stride..........man he would be a probowler

Bad definition. Not mutually exclusive.

When the ball hits your hands....

Yes your correct QB and Wr are not mutually exclusive. The wr success is dependent on the qb having success and vice versa. That's what i was getting at.

I didnt clarify myself good enough, i guess. One good example, of the many, would be the time Alex threw the ball to Frank Gore when they played against the Saints. It was a simple pass to the flat and Alex was unable to throw it accurately. Yeah the "ball hit his hands" but was not catch-able and led to a interception.

Im sure you're now going to tell me that Frank Gore is not a good receiver out of the backfield and should have done a better job to an amazing catch.

reason why is probally because his route running isnt that good before you say its an excuse look at the facts:

alex to vernon were 40 for 60 which is 67%

alex to morgan were 34 for 51 also 67%

alex to walker were 15 of 22 also for 68%

alex to ziegler were 8 for 11 for 72%

alex to crabtree 38 for 67 for 58%


so every wr that PRACTICES WITH ALEX GETS A QB % OF OVER 66%

Is this new to you. Actually, that was one of the knocks on Crabtree when he came out. The gimmicky spread offense that he came out of didnt require this of him. I've heard numerous people mention, that he was able to break off his route to open spots on the field. He kinda of was free on the field to a certain degree. Hes only played a year and a half and you guys are ready to give up on him. Wait till there is actual practices, so that Harbaugh or wr coach can help him with this aspect of his game better. Harbaugh is not there at these functions and i dont expect Alex to be able to help him much, considering hes new to this playbook.....and we all now how hard its for Alex to grasp new playbooks....right?

This is all funny to me, that when Alex came out of his gimmicky college offense, we all gave him time to transition, including me. Some are giving him seven years to see what he can become, but Crabtree no, he only has one and a half seasons before his labeled a bust.

ok before you were talking about how inaccurate alex is and how its alexs fault that the passes to crabtree are behind him bounce of his hands etc..

my point was that it was probally due to bad route running because all of the other WRs he throw to are over 65% completiton precentage

LOL @ this.

Have you ever thought that Crabtree gets covered by the other team's top corner? Lets put Ziegler or Morgan as the number 1 and see how good their numbers look.

where did i say morgan should be our #1 WR or where did i say that morgan was better than crabtree and should be the #1 spot all i am saying is that crabtree has not put in any time or effort in to practice and get the route running right or get the timing right

you cant read a playbook to get that done right you have to go on the field and practice


look at the link i gave you before

first 3 games
alex to crabtree 6.6 rating

rest of season 95.4 rating

what does this prove?

after 3 games of getting chemistry with alex he was a decent #1 option

It's really baffling to me that other QB's can establish chemistry right away with practice squad players (Brees, Romo, Manning, frigging Sam Bradford)... yet Alex and Crabs need multiple years to get chemistry?

I mean if Crabs played a game or two and had no preseason then I can understand all this chemistry talk but for pete's sake he's played 20+ games with Alex....WTF?

i think brady maning romo WRs all come to practice and TC

LOL, how many passes do you really think Peyton threw to Blair White in TC? LOL.

When you have a good system and a good QB, you can lose key pieces but still not miss a beat. Pats, Chargers, Colts, etc.

I'm not saying chemistry doesn't matter, but Crabs and Alex have had more than enough time to establish chemistry...their lack of production has nothing to do with chemistry and more to do with poor play from both players.

any of this

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
@VernonDavis85 Vernon Davis
Time to hit the sheets. I got to get some rest so I can get ready for mini camp with my favorite guy Alex Smith. Wait til he see my routes!!