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Harbaugh channels Walsh

Originally posted by Solace49:
Originally posted by YungAce:
Originally posted by Solace49:
Originally posted by aman49:
Originally posted by feeblefreestyler:
I am not comparing Harbaugh to Singletary by any means; however, I do want to point out that we have seen this similar line of reporting in the past.

Via Dan Brown's 49ers Hot Read:
Quote:
Singletary, now in his second season as a 49ers assistant, said Walsh graciously tutored him on everything from schemes to scheduling to psychology.

”There were times that I would fly out from Chicago, have dinner with Bill, then turn around and fly back home again,” Singletary said of his early forays into coaching. ”That’s how much I respected him.”
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I'm just saying. Neither a close relationship with Walsh, nor a desire to emulate him are precursors to success.

Further, what is the difference between Singletary's desire for a Ditka, 85-Bears offense, and Harbaugh's seeming desire for a Walsh, 89-49ers offense? Are both not out-dated in today's NFL?

I am not criticizing Harbaugh, just questioning the merits of the praise he seems to garner from the fans and media alike.

Scott

And you are?

Apparently a feeble free styler.

And you are?

Rebecca Black?

Probably more likely than Miss Montana.
Originally posted by Solace49:
Originally posted by YungAce:
Originally posted by Solace49:
Originally posted by aman49:
Originally posted by feeblefreestyler:
I am not comparing Harbaugh to Singletary by any means; however, I do want to point out that we have seen this similar line of reporting in the past.

Via Dan Brown's 49ers Hot Read:
Quote:
Singletary, now in his second season as a 49ers assistant, said Walsh graciously tutored him on everything from schemes to scheduling to psychology.

”There were times that I would fly out from Chicago, have dinner with Bill, then turn around and fly back home again,” Singletary said of his early forays into coaching. ”That’s how much I respected him.”
Link

I'm just saying. Neither a close relationship with Walsh, nor a desire to emulate him are precursors to success.

Further, what is the difference between Singletary's desire for a Ditka, 85-Bears offense, and Harbaugh's seeming desire for a Walsh, 89-49ers offense? Are both not out-dated in today's NFL?

I am not criticizing Harbaugh, just questioning the merits of the praise he seems to garner from the fans and media alike.

Scott

And you are?

Apparently a feeble free styler.

And you are?

Rebecca Black?

but your profile says male??


A girl named sue
With everyone hoping that JH will bring back the team with visions of Bill Walsh and a WCO, just thought I'd post this for the young kids who did not live through the times. I just listed some of the prominant names from the draft and FA/trade pick ups, feel free to add names you think were significant. First there is the people who walsh kept from before his time, someof the pickups and his draft


74
2 9 Keith Fahnhorst OT 6-6 248 Minnesota
76
8 14 John Ayers T 6-5 238 West Texas State
2 14 Randy Cross C 6-3 245 UCLA
78
1 7 Ken MacAfee TE 6-4 250 Notre Dame
1 24 Dan Bunz LB 6-4 230 Long Beach State
5 17 Archie Reese DT 6-3 263 Clemson
7 9 Fred Quillan C 6-5 240 Oregon

Hacksack Reynolds, Fred Dean, Gary big hands Johnson, Matt Millen, Lawrence Pillars, Jim Burt
Charles Young, Freddie Solomon, Russ Francis, Wendall Tyler, Dwight Hicks, Ray Wershing, Brent Jones, Steve Young, Mike Wilson, Dan Audick, Jeff Kemp, Steve Bono

79
3 Joe Montana QB 6-2 200 Notre Dame
10 1 Dwight Clark
80
Earl Cooper RB 6-2 227 Rice
1 20 Jim Stuckey DE 6-4 245 Clemson
2 11 Keena Turner LB 6-2 219 Purdue
81
1 8 Ronnie Lott DB 6-0 199 USC
2 12 Eric Wright DB 6-1 180 Missouri
3 9 Carlton Williamson DB 6-0 204 Pittsburgh
6 9 Pete Kugler DT 6-4 255 Penn State
82
2 2 William 'bubba' Paris T 6-6 293 Michigan
83
2 21 Roger Craig RB 6-0 222 Nebraska
4 6 Tom Holmoe DB 6-2 180 Brigham Young
5 5 Riki Ellison LB 6-2 220 USC
11 10 Jesse Sapolu G/C 6-4 260 Hawaii
84
1 24 Todd Shell LB 6-4 225 Brigham Young
2 28 John Frank TE 6-3 225 Ohio State
3 17 Guy McIntyre G 6-3 271 Georgia
5 9 Michael Carter DT 6-2 281 Southern Methodist
5 27 Jeff Fuller LB-S 6-2 216 Texas A&M
9 24 Derrick Harmon RB 5-10 202 Cornell

85
1 16 Jerry Rice WR 6-2 200 Mississippi Valley State
5 28 Bruce Collie T 6-6 275 Texas-Arlington
86
2 12 Larry Roberts DE 6-3 264 Alabama
3 1 Tom Rathman FB 6-1 232 Nebraska
3 9 Tim McKyer CB 6-0 174 Texas-Arlington
3 21 John Taylor WR 6-1 185 Delaware State
4 14 Charles Haley LB 6-5 230 James Madison
4 19 Steve Wallace T 6-5 276 Auburn
4 20 Kevin f*gan DT 6-3 260 Miami (Fla.)
6 24 Don Griffin FS 6-0 176 Middle Tennessee State
87
1 22 Harris Barton T 6-3 280 North Carolina
1 25 Terrence Flagler RB 6-0 200 Clemson
2 9 Jeff Bregel G 6-4 280 USC
88
2 6 Daniel Stubbs DE 6-4 260 Miami (Fla.)
2 12 Pierce Holt DE/DT 6-4 280 Angelo State
3 25 Bill Romanowski LB 6-4 231 Boston College
4 20 Barry Helton P 6-3 205 Colorado)
11 26 Chet Brooks CB 5-11 191 Texas A&M
89
1 28 Keith Delong LB 6-2 235 Tennessee
2 28 Wesley Walls TE 6-5 246 Mississippi
3 28 Keith Henderson FB 6-1 220 Georgia
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I dont wanna go into details, but as far as i can remeber (1981), Walsh traded for player(s) that knows will help his team for at least the upcoming year or so..

He also wasn't afraid to give up high draft choices in order to lure players who can start a strong foundation.

Last but not the least, he would always use his late picks to those that he called "damaged goods".. player who once had a very good future until injury pulled them down..

He often spoke about developing players by putting them in a situation where they will succeed and build their confidence up high..
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1986! What a year for pick ups.

LB
Originally posted by leebert81:
1986! What a year for pick ups.

LB

And no first rounder!
What gets me is how "small" the OL linemen were in the 70's. John Ayers at 238 lbs playing OG? Wow...!
Lawrence Taylor said Ayers geve him more trouble than any other OL player in NFL.
Lawrence Taylor said Ayers geve him more trouble than any other OL player in NFL.
Originally posted by HailJerry:
What gets me is how "small" the OL linemen were in the 70's. John Ayers at 238 lbs playing OG? Wow...!

This was not the norm for the league as a whole. Bobb McKittrick preferred his OL a bit slight in the
LB department. IHO, it gave them an advantage over the DL, when executing blocking schemes and
pass protection, within Walsh' WCO.
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Originally posted by FlayvaMeister:
Originally posted by HailJerry:
What gets me is how "small" the OL linemen were in the 70's. John Ayers at 238 lbs playing OG? Wow...!

This was not the norm for the league as a whole. Bobb McKittrick preferred his OL a bit slight in the
LB department. IHO, it gave them an advantage over the DL, when cut blocking within Walsh' WCO.

fixed!
[ Edited by boast on Apr 8, 2011 at 12:43 PM ]
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by FlayvaMeister:
Originally posted by HailJerry:
What gets me is how "small" the OL linemen were in the 70's. John Ayers at 238 lbs playing OG? Wow...!

This was not the norm for the league as a whole. Bobb McKittrick preferred his OL a bit slight in the
LB department. IHO, it gave them an advantage over the DL, when cut blocking within Walsh' WCO.

fixed!

OK Boaast, I was trying to be PC here...
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