Originally posted by Rsrkshn:
Originally posted by servegmo:
Dixon C (great role player, need to dance less)
Walker B+ (we need to keep him)
Nate/HB C+ (great for our new scheme)
Ginn/KR C+ (great KR, bring speed, we need him)
Davis B (potential look good at the end like the pick)
J. Smith A
Manny B- (no passrush)
Brooks B- (inconsistent passrush)
LaBoy B (consistant passrush)
Bowman B- (good potential - inexperienced)
Nate B (great in nickel - reconstruct the contract - hope he stays)
Dashawn B- (solid)
Mays C+ (potential - he has to show me he can get better)
Smith C+ (potential - not so physical)
Great effort and a good idea to grade out the players.
My own two cents/comments:
If Gore is an A, how is Davis an A+? Gore is closer to being an A than Davis is an A+. Doesn't A+ mean the total package and probable HOFer? Davis is not. He cannot make the difficult catch with consistency; not a clutch go-to guy IMO. And he sure cannot be projected as a HOFer at this point.
You are inconsistent with your grading also. Sometimes you grade on potential (Iupati) and sometimes not (Williams). How can you say Williams is a D+, when, because of injury, we haven't been able to see what he brings? He might be a D, but right now we just don't know. Likewise, Iupati may be an A, but right now he isn't. here I'm assuming that an "A" is pro-bowl or near pro-bowl.
It's all opinion, of course, but IMO Bynam is as good as Walker as a package. Similarly, Spencer is at least as good as Celements.
hey thanks for your 2 cents Rsrkshn...
Gore vs Davis... Both are elite players in my eyes, but I think there a other guys in the league that can do what Gore does maybe with different players but you still can do it, I believe he is one of our most important weapons but I also feel we need to do the running as a committee, we need other runners to change the pace, so we keep him fresh, the role of the all mighty running back to has to change to a two RB a la westbrook with Gore (Dixon its not ready). Vernon is a elite blocker and a great pass catcher with elite speed, you cant find another one of those in the NFL he is unique a la Willis... they are starter in any roster in the nfl. Gore should be on most but not all. (my opinion)
Iupati vs Williams
Iupati in this season played like a monster he is not a finish player but he played all season and showed he can be a dominant player in this league, in the other hand Williams didnt play, he has potential but in his first year he didn show anything on the field he wasnt better than anyone on the WR so he could find minutes on the field, so of course he can be better than a D+ but he will have to show something before he becomes the next Nate Davis on this forum..
Bynam vs Walker
Both are very good role players, but is the same case as Vernon, there are not alot of TE who can run routes and play like WR. Walker is a rare potential were he can play as WR but can also block as a regular TE. He will get good money when he gets to free agensy, you can tfind a lot of those guys in the nfl.
Spencer vs Nate
Spencer is difficult because he had a very good year in 2009 but a terrible in 2010. To me hes strength is a cover corner and nothing else, the problem is that he lost a ton of confidence as the season progress and I think he is very inconsistent, in the other hand Nate can be one of the best nickerl corners in the league, he is physical can support the run like spencer cant do, he can mirror the slot receiver and TEs who are most of the times possession receivers and slow and cover them, to me if nate in the nickel is a great player and can be use a s a weapon not every other team has.
At the end its difficult for me or a ny of us make a real assessment of any of those guys but heck we can try...
lets go niners...