ESPN: Smith worst QB in NFC West and getting worse

Originally posted by dtcomposer:

Originally posted by Shaj:

Originally posted by dtcomposer:

Originally posted by Shaj:
1st Place, Matt Hasselbeck (Sideways arrow)

2nd Place, Sam Bradford (Green Arrow pointing up)

3rd Place, Derek Anderson (Sideways arrow)

4th Place, Alex Smith (Red Arrow Pointing Down)

"Smith has thrown three of his five interceptions on third down. He failed to build upon the tying drive he led against New Orleans a week ago. The 49ers have problems beyond Smith right now, but it's tougher to say Smith is part of the solution after a 0-3 start and two horrid road performances. Smith probably remains the 49ers' best option after the team traded away Shaun Hill. But if NFL teams had to choose their starters for Week 4 from the current starters in the division, I don't think Smith would generate much momentum. The 49ers have converted only five times in 32 third-down chances on the road."


Link to ESPN analysis

Whoa Shaj.... are you posting this because you agree with it? Do you also think Smith is a bad QB? I would never have guessed that from your other 1 million posts on the topic.. I can't come in this place without being bombarded by Shaj-hates-Smith threads. We get it. Nothing you wsay from now on will better show how much you despise Alex Smith as a QB. From now on just write "Shaj" whenever you post, and we will all regurgitate the normal Lines about Smith verbatim in out heads. It will be more efficient for everyone.

I've endured 10 million "Alex Smith will be the next Steve Young/Troy Aikmen/Jim Plunkett" type threads in NT and now that I'm regrettably vindicated 6 years into this mess, you want me to not say anything? If you want to be upset, be upset at all the nut swingers the last 6 years who supported the failed Alex Smith experiment.

From what I have read... and I can only come at this from that perspective: The Majority of posts defending Smith have used those as examples of why it is wise to wait until we know for sure. You are twisting what they said now. There is no need to gloat. 1st the season isn't over yet and Smith could turn it around. You are very quick to throw him away which is fine, but I think that not letting him finish off the season (or at least a few more games) would be kind of ridiculous. Do you want Carr or Troy Smith to Start? I really don't think that is an ugrade. So if that isn't your point, then why can't you just wait until Smith is officially benched, or released and then you can have your "I told you so" moment. When you prematurely (and it is still premature - Smith was a problem last game, but the whole team was bad, not to mention the coaching.) proclaim victory after every bad game, it makes you look foolish, and short sighted. If you just thought to yourself "There have been seven years of bad games!" then you can see that I already know that is how you feel about it.

In the end I guess you just pointed out that this is all about you. You had to put up with comparisons and now you are regrettably (very sincere) right. So you are once again showing that you just have a personal stake in the problem. If you were more unbiased about it, and didn't try to fit every new piece of the unfolding season to fit your Alex Smith worldview, then I wouldn't call you out on it.


It has been my experience here that the vast majority of Smith supporters are measured, and honest (but also optimistic - see:fan) about the situation. There are some crazy people that are myopic, but I have noticed that many more Smith haters are irrational and ridiculous about it, and alot of the time they delight in him failing, which to me just seems weird as a fan. Again there are exceptions, but that is why I tend to not call them out on it as much.

smith haters are irrational and ridiculous? Au contraire. I guess you would call Lombardi and Walsh irrational and ridiculous because they would have put a stop to this Alex Smith bullcrap 5 years ago, and you know it. 'haters' is a misnomer. call us 'results lovers' or 'excellence expecters'. Call yourselves 'blind faith', because that's what you are clinging to, nothing else.

Originally posted by bigmike55:

Originally posted by excelsior:
You can call Alex a loser, that he sucks and that he is the worst Qb in the division or even the entire NFL. But you know what, he is among an elite group of great athletes who has accomplished far more than most of you guys will ever dream of during your entire life. What is it - are you so ashamed of your own miserable failures that you have to divert your frustration by crapping all over him? No matter where he ends up, I have a great deal of respect for him.

You guys are not class guys, and you don't deserve to have a good team to root for. And you know what, it appears that the 49ers will remain crappy for a long time to come. So go ahead an develop an ulcer over it. And you might want to get a life, too.

Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to welcome Alex Smith's mother to the webzone.

Originally posted by danimal:
for the record. I do think Alex Smith is better than Jimmy Clausen.

Yea....

It really is a shame what happened to the "hater" term. It never gets used properly by kids today. NEVER.

Originally posted by bigmike55:

Originally posted by excelsior:
You can call Alex a loser, that he sucks and that he is the worst Qb in the division or even the entire NFL. But you know what, he is among an elite group of great athletes who has accomplished far more than most of you guys will ever dream of during your entire life. What is it - are you so ashamed of your own miserable failures that you have to divert your frustration by crapping all over him? No matter where he ends up, I have a great deal of respect for him.

You guys are not class guys, and you don't deserve to have a good team to root for. And you know what, it appears that the 49ers will remain crappy for a long time to come. So go ahead an develop an ulcer over it. And you might want to get a life, too.

Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to welcome Alex Smith's mother to the webzone.

Originally posted by excelsior:
You can call Alex a loser, that he sucks and that he is the worst Qb in the division or even the entire NFL. But you know what, he is among an elite group of great athletes who has accomplished far more than most of you guys will ever dream of during your entire life. What is it - are you so ashamed of your own miserable failures that you have to divert your frustration by crapping all over him? No matter where he ends up, I have a great deal of respect for him.

You guys are not class guys, and you don't deserve to have a good team to root for. And you know what, it appears that the 49ers will remain crappy for a long time to come. So go ahead an develop an ulcer over it. And you might want to get a life, too.

Thank you for stating the obvious, even the lowest paid player on the team probably makes more than the average american. I dont understand exactly what your saying. No one is saying alex is a bad guy, in fact hes been a model citizen off the field and always says the right things in the locker room. But if you are a true niner fan then you want to win, the millions that smith makes comes directly from the support of the fans who are willing to shell out their hard earned money for game tickets/ direct tv and niner merchandise. its one thing if you know him personally or something but the fact that he is successful in terms or life or even a nice guy doesnt defend his play on the field, which is the topic of this thread, if you cant handle the conversation then perhaps you should read another thread rather than crapping all over everyone else for stating their opinion

Misleading... that article was for Week 3. The 49ers had far and away the most difficult matchup in Week 3.

Originally posted by excelsior:
You can call Alex a loser, that he sucks and that he is the worst Qb in the division or even the entire NFL. But you know what, he is among an elite group of great athletes who has accomplished far more than most of you guys will ever dream of during your entire life. What is it - are you so ashamed of your own miserable failures that you have to divert your frustration by crapping all over him? No matter where he ends up, I have a great deal of respect for him.

You guys are not class guys, and you don't deserve to have a good team to root for. And you know what, it appears that the 49ers will remain crappy for a long time to come. So go ahead an develop an ulcer over it. And you might want to get a life, too.

Mrs. Smith? Is that you?

......and obviously we are rooting for alex smith because we want to win and in order for us to do that he has to play well, and considering the chances we ve had to get qbs over the past few years, we have to root for alex smith because we have no choice at the moment, as far as i know hes still the starting qb

Originally posted by qwestlove94:
......and obviously we are rooting for alex smith because we want to win and in order for us to do that he has to play well, and considering the chances we ve had to get qbs over the past few years, we have to root for alex smith because we have no choice at the moment, as far as i know hes still the starting qb

i think he can do well we have top play to his strengths he has proved he can move the ball when the playbook opens up

we have to open up the playbook if we want to win

Originally posted by Shaj:

Originally posted by Leathaface:
So back to the topic...what QBs in the NFC are worse than Smith?

NFC West...none. NFC East...none. NFC North...none. NFC South...Josh Freeman of TB is way better already and JClausen/Matt Moore of Carolina...

Hmm, well he MIGHT be better than JC at the moment, but I dunno it's close...

No GM in the league (other than Baalke, out of necessity) would make Smith their starter.

That is so debatable it's not even funny Shaj.

I bet New Orleans would.

So would Minnesota.

Hell any team that has a solid Line would start Smith.

See why it's debatable?

At this point you guys have me hoping that he doesn't get re-signed regardless of performance. This way he comes back with a huge chip on his shoulder.

You guys all talked trash about Garcia. Fueled by that Psycho T.O. and his trashtalk. Garcia left and we have Smith and you all were kissing Garcia's ass wanting him to come back when he was a FA. Hell some members here wanted to trade for him when he was QB'ing for Tampa.

You guys seem to think that renting McNabb would have taken this team to the Super Bowl. McNabb would get NUKED behind the Line that played this past Sunday. He's not the mobile McNabb. He's the STATUESQUE McNabb. KC would have put him out for the season with Jimmy Raye calling the plays.

Do you know why I'm not ready to throw the towell on Smith? Cause we would have to do it all over again. This is the hand we are dealt and have had and couldn't get away from for the last 5 years. Either we make due or we strap ourselves into the chair and hang on for another 10 years of suckitude.

That's why.

Your complaining doesn't make matters any better. And if you think that I do not get physically Ill after a Loss then you have not listened to a word I've said and you haven't been paying attention to my demeanor.

I was so pissed off by Halftime I nearly picked my Netbook off the coffee table and pitched it out the window w/o opening it. And what made it worse was seeing all the crap play in the trenches, the lack of consistency on the part of the Zebras and knowing that you guys would lump it all on the head of the one guy who NEVER gave up other than Frank.

Smith got his ass kicked and you guys are only there to kick the dirt over his grave.

~Ceadder

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by qwestlove94:
......and obviously we are rooting for alex smith because we want to win and in order for us to do that he has to play well, and considering the chances we ve had to get qbs over the past few years, we have to root for alex smith because we have no choice at the moment, as far as i know hes still the starting qb

i think he can do well we have top play to his strengths he has proved he can move the ball when the playbook opens up

we have to open up the playbook if we want to win

Some blocking might help too, our o-line made tamba hali look like lawrence taylor yesterday

Originally posted by ZRF80:

Originally posted by bigmike55:

Originally posted by excelsior:
You can call Alex a loser, that he sucks and that he is the worst Qb in the division or even the entire NFL. But you know what, he is among an elite group of great athletes who has accomplished far more than most of you guys will ever dream of during your entire life. What is it - are you so ashamed of your own miserable failures that you have to divert your frustration by crapping all over him? No matter where he ends up, I have a great deal of respect for him.

You guys are not class guys, and you don't deserve to have a good team to root for. And you know what, it appears that the 49ers will remain crappy for a long time to come. So go ahead an develop an ulcer over it. And you might want to get a life, too.

Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to welcome Alex Smith's mother to the webzone.

thats one of the funniest posts ive seen in a while

ceadder. You are one funny guy

LOL. Right, cus New Orleans and Minnesota has been banging on our door begging for a trade.

Of course Childress has been p***y footing with old man winter for 2 years because he felt he had no other options. Obviously Alex Smith was next on his to call list. I guess he just assumed the Niners would not be interested in trading away their star QB.

I want to thank you. You have allowed to me to bring up another point in my arsenal that I never considered. If Alex Smith actually had the respect of the NFL as someone who would excel on a Great Team with a Great Line, one of the elite teams without good backups....which there are several of....would have expressed some kind of interest at some point.

The lack of anybody ever even starting rumors about trading for Alex is very telling in itself.

Originally posted by qwestlove94:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by qwestlove94:
......and obviously we are rooting for alex smith because we want to win and in order for us to do that he has to play well, and considering the chances we ve had to get qbs over the past few years, we have to root for alex smith because we have no choice at the moment, as far as i know hes still the starting qb

i think he can do well we have top play to his strengths he has proved he can move the ball when the playbook opens up

we have to open up the playbook if we want to win

Some blocking might help too, our o-line made tamba hali look like lawrence taylor yesterday

i agree he got a lot of protection against the saints and did well

you got to wonder i think the o line sucks against noisy stadiums we didnt do so hot against seattle too