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Would Brady pass Montana in your mind???

Yes
Brady is a great qb for his era. However, the rules have been changed to favor the offense because the NFL wants high scoring games. That's a major advantage qbs of this era have over past qbs like Montana.

Both are good qbs but Montana did it back when defenders could basically maul receivers compared to what they can do today.
Honestly, no.

Montana has "The Catch"; Brady has the "Tuck Rule".

Montana put the team on his back. Rallied his team to beat powerful, dynastic teams in an era where the rules didn't favor offense so heavily. He beat teams with his arm, accuracy and excellent decision making.

Brady put the team on his back, and did just well enough to get into feild goal range. His wins are forever tarnished with the actions of his coaches. Brady is one of the better QBs of all time, but not so near the top to challenge Montana.
Originally posted by nflguy49:
Brady is a great qb for his era. However, the rules have been changed to favor the offense because the NFL wants high scoring games. That's a major advantage qbs of this era have over past qbs like Montana.

Both are good qbs but Montana did it back when defenders could basically maul receivers compared to what they can do today.

Defenses could also destroy QBs; break them in half. Now, it is just about illegal to touch the QB (seemingly in large part due to Brady).
all of that talk dies when he lost a super bowl.... Joe cool will never lost in a super Bowl, he is the best...
When you get to the Super Bowl undefeated and can't close the deal it leaves quite a negative mark on your resume. Manning, Brady, Brees, Marino, are all great quarterbacks, but you get to the big game you win period, that's what makes a legend. Even if Brady wins again he'll always have the 18-1 season.
Montana never lost a Superbowl, nor did he have down years like Brady has had throughout his career.

Nor did he ever play a key role in what could be considered the single largest and most monumental chokejob in Superbowl history...(aka 18-1).
[ Edited by kray28 on Sep 7, 2010 at 8:26 AM ]
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NEVER. How dare you. Montana = GOD
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He will always be in the conversation with Montana, Elway and others. The conversation gets interesting when you only compare Superbowls. Montana is the hands down greatest ever Superbowl QB. 4-0 with no interceptions.

When talking about careers most fail to leave out Sammy Baugh who simply won 8 NFL Championships in 9 years. Montana pales with that comparison but comparing greats across the eras is extremely tough.

For me Montana is the best ever because he took us from the laughing stock of the NFL to the most dominate team for the next 20 years, with Steve Young taking over.

After All, I am a Homer and Proud of it.
only person who can oass montana is manning and he has to win like 3-4 more SB for that to happen
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Originally posted by valrod33:
Yes

yeah if he wins two SB's as a 9er lol I'm down

a few SB records just for kicks

oh and Tom Brady didn't deserve his first super bowl MVP

Highest SB passer rating, career (40 attempts)
127.8 Joe Montana
122.8 Jim Plunkett
112.8 Terry Bradshaw

Most Consecutive Completions, Game
13 Joe Montana, San Francisco vs. Denver, XXIV
10
Phil Simms, N.Y. Giants vs. Denver, XXI
Troy Aikman, Dallas vs. Pittsburgh, XXX
Kurt Warner, Arizona vs. Pittsburgh, XLIII

Highest Completion Percentage, Career (40 attempts)
70.0 Troy Aikman, Dallas, 3 games, (80-56)
68.0 Joe Montana, San Francisco, 4 games (122-83)
64.1 Tom Brady, New England, 4 games (156-100)

Highest Completion Percentage, Game (20 attempts)
88.0 Phil Simms, N.Y. Giants vs. Denver, XXI (25-22)
75.9 Joe Montana, San Francisco vs. Denver, XXIV (29-22)
73.5 Ken Anderson, Cincinnati vs. San Francisco, XVI (34-25)

Most Touchdown Passes, Career
11 Joe Montana, San Francisco, 4 games
9 Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh, 4 games
8 Roger Staubach, Dallas, 4 games

Most Touchdown Passes, Game
6 Steve Young, San Francisco vs. San Diego, XXIX
5 Joe Montana, San Francisco vs. Denver, XXIV
4
Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh vs. Dallas, XIII
Doug Williams, Washington vs. Denver, XXII
Troy Aikman, Dallas vs. Buffalo, XXVII

Lowest Percentage, Passes Had Intercepted, Career (40 attempts)
0.00
Jim Plunkett, Oakland-L.A. Raiders, 2 games (46-0)
Joe Montana, San Francisco, 4 games (122-0)
0.64 Tom Brady, New England, 4 games (156-1)
1.25 Troy Aikman, Dallas, 3 games (80-1)
Joe's career sky-rocketed with the monument-ed play "THE CATCH"....

Tom's career sky-rocketed with the monument-ed play "THE TUCK RULE"...

who would you choose?!....

Joe Montana of course!
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Yes

yeah if he wins two SB's as a 9er lol I'm down

a few SB records just for kicks

oh and Tom Brady didn't deserve his first super bowl MVP

Highest SB passer rating, career (40 attempts)
127.8 Joe Montana
122.8 Jim Plunkett
112.8 Terry Bradshaw

Most Consecutive Completions, Game
13 Joe Montana, San Francisco vs. Denver, XXIV
10
Phil Simms, N.Y. Giants vs. Denver, XXI
Troy Aikman, Dallas vs. Pittsburgh, XXX
Kurt Warner, Arizona vs. Pittsburgh, XLIII

Highest Completion Percentage, Career (40 attempts)
70.0 Troy Aikman, Dallas, 3 games, (80-56)
68.0 Joe Montana, San Francisco, 4 games (122-83)
64.1 Tom Brady, New England, 4 games (156-100)

Highest Completion Percentage, Game (20 attempts)
88.0 Phil Simms, N.Y. Giants vs. Denver, XXI (25-22)
75.9 Joe Montana, San Francisco vs. Denver, XXIV (29-22)
73.5 Ken Anderson, Cincinnati vs. San Francisco, XVI (34-25)

Most Touchdown Passes, Career
11 Joe Montana, San Francisco, 4 games
9 Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh, 4 games
8 Roger Staubach, Dallas, 4 games

Most Touchdown Passes, Game
6 Steve Young, San Francisco vs. San Diego, XXIX
5 Joe Montana, San Francisco vs. Denver, XXIV
4
Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh vs. Dallas, XIII
Doug Williams, Washington vs. Denver, XXII
Troy Aikman, Dallas vs. Buffalo, XXVII

Lowest Percentage, Passes Had Intercepted, Career (40 attempts)
0.00
Jim Plunkett, Oakland-L.A. Raiders, 2 games (46-0)
Joe Montana, San Francisco, 4 games (122-0)
0.64 Tom Brady, New England, 4 games (156-1)
1.25 Troy Aikman, Dallas, 3 games (80-1)

stats schmats, Tom Brady is better looking so if he ever wins 4 super bowls that automatically puts him a head of Montana
Originally posted by znk916:
hes already better

so you're 16? 17?
Originally posted by kingairta:
Nope because of the cheating, the "tuck" and Adam Vs foot.

Yup. Montana never needed the infamous tuck rule to win a game!