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[ Edited by BirdmanJr on Mar 23, 2010 at 8:56 AM ]
i agree. that conference was pathetic. I seriously hope he doesn't f**k this team over by his judgements & so on.
Gotta stop lumping Jed in with his Father. Jed seems to genuinely care about the team rather than looking at it like an Investment. He could of came out sooner and squashed the fire but he made a promise to Scot and kept it. Then he answered all the conspiracy theories on power struggles... etc.

If Scot's personal issues got in the way of his job performance then it doesn't matter if it's the week before the draft, you let him go. Who knows what we have now... it could be a fresh perspective rather than the dinosaur draft mentality. Allowing us to pick up fan favorite Spiller, or Thomas.

Just remember the Niners got caught for tampering under SM... tampering...end of story.
We are not privy to everything that transpired to cause this seperation, nor is it our right to know personal information on Scot M. So, for fans to vilify Jed and the Yorks in general, or second guess a very tough decision, is inappropriate and pointless. The Yorks are not complete morons and surely knew that making such a move so close to a very important draft was not advisable unless absolutely necessary. Some of us just need to chill and see how it all plays out.
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by miked1978:
it gets tiring reading threads like this. What I see is a personal matter with Scottie and Jed doesn't want to air the dirty laundry. Unfortunately it happened so close to the draft. Actually it seemed to have happened a few weeks ago and management seemed to have taken their time to do the right thing which could be a good thing. I'm sure you would have b***hed if they handled it too quickly.

I see your posts a lot and you are never happy. I don't think you have been happy with Scott "McClueless" or the Yorks. When they get rid of "McCluess" you b***h but yet you were never happy with him. Nobody is happy with the Yorks but Jed does seem like he's trying but I'm sure you would make a better team president.

They timed it terribly. 5 weeks before the draft... They could have gotten Holmgren. Instead we have no GM.

Yes we could do better than Jed York as President. I'm starting to think even John York would be better to have back again...

Oh ya, that GRRRREEEAAAATTTT GM Mike Holmgren. Cause' that is what we needed. And how the F do you know they "timed it" at all?

What is wrong with Mike Holmgren? No smart ass answer or biased answer please. I truly don't understand why people don't like him.
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by miked1978:
it gets tiring reading threads like this. What I see is a personal matter with Scottie and Jed doesn't want to air the dirty laundry. Unfortunately it happened so close to the draft. Actually it seemed to have happened a few weeks ago and management seemed to have taken their time to do the right thing which could be a good thing. I'm sure you would have b***hed if they handled it too quickly.

I see your posts a lot and you are never happy. I don't think you have been happy with Scott "McClueless" or the Yorks. When they get rid of "McCluess" you b***h but yet you were never happy with him. Nobody is happy with the Yorks but Jed does seem like he's trying but I'm sure you would make a better team president.

They timed it terribly. 5 weeks before the draft... They could have gotten Holmgren. Instead we have no GM.

Yes we could do better than Jed York as President. I'm starting to think even John York would be better to have back again...

Oh ya, that GRRRREEEAAAATTTT GM Mike Holmgren. Cause' that is what we needed. And how the F do you know they "timed it" at all?

What is wrong with Mike Holmgren? No smart ass answer or biased answer please. I truly don't understand why people don't like him.

I never said I don't like him. Just that it's pointless to whine about not getting him as GM. The reason not to give a damn that he isn't our GM is a.) he was regarded as a total failure as GM in Seattle, and b.) (this one is mainly my issue) we don't need a 60-something year old GM.

BTW he's not even the GM in Cleavland, he's the team president and they hired a new GM to run the personnel side of the business.
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by miked1978:
it gets tiring reading threads like this. What I see is a personal matter with Scottie and Jed doesn't want to air the dirty laundry. Unfortunately it happened so close to the draft. Actually it seemed to have happened a few weeks ago and management seemed to have taken their time to do the right thing which could be a good thing. I'm sure you would have b***hed if they handled it too quickly.

I see your posts a lot and you are never happy. I don't think you have been happy with Scott "McClueless" or the Yorks. When they get rid of "McCluess" you b***h but yet you were never happy with him. Nobody is happy with the Yorks but Jed does seem like he's trying but I'm sure you would make a better team president.

They timed it terribly. 5 weeks before the draft... They could have gotten Holmgren. Instead we have no GM.

Yes we could do better than Jed York as President. I'm starting to think even John York would be better to have back again...

Oh ya, that GRRRREEEAAAATTTT GM Mike Holmgren. Cause' that is what we needed. And how the F do you know they "timed it" at all?

What is wrong with Mike Holmgren? No smart ass answer or biased answer please. I truly don't understand why people don't like him.

His most recent stint as a GM in Seattle wasn't exactly breath-taking. Holmgren Drafts
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2010/03/york-announces-mccloughans-departure-as-49ers-gm.html

How the public and fans view the comments of Jed York.

1) "Does anyone else find this press conference (to say nothing of the whole process) bizarre? How do you go from giving the keys to the kingdom to McCloughan to having it be in both parties' "best interest" to part just a few weeks before the draft? This organization is Dysfunctional (with a capital D)."

2) "If Jed York had any integrity he would get out of the football business. Jed is an absolute joke and his team is a laughingstock. If there was any hint that mccloughlin wasnt up to the job a couple months ago, the niners should have jumped on bruce allen or holmgren.

As the warrior situation shows, fans and the lack of money can force ownership moves. It is time for a real talk about boycotting this sorry organization, and its an especially good time when they decide to RAISE ticket prices by 10% after a non-playoff year.

Boycott this team, stop spending any more money on this inept family."

3) "I wonder if Larry Ellison's possible purchase of the Warriors means he won't also be in the market for the 49ers one day.

After a decade of York ownership, here we are again with what has become business as usual: Ongoing integrity problems, instability, and a putrid team on the field."

They're just bloggers.

They don't know much, and they could be anybody, even undercover Raider fans.

Just like ZRF80 that posts here. Dude wants us to move to L.A., calling niner fans pathetic, but posts here.
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Yah ownership sucks but whats the point about complaining about it. Its not like we can make them sell the team. If we still go and watch game and watch tv then there is no point about complaining about ownership.

Coaches, GMs, players are something that can be replaced. Replacing ownership is not easy and usually only occurs every few decades if it all.
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by miked1978:
it gets tiring reading threads like this. What I see is a personal matter with Scottie and Jed doesn't want to air the dirty laundry. Unfortunately it happened so close to the draft. Actually it seemed to have happened a few weeks ago and management seemed to have taken their time to do the right thing which could be a good thing. I'm sure you would have b***hed if they handled it too quickly.

I see your posts a lot and you are never happy. I don't think you have been happy with Scott "McClueless" or the Yorks. When they get rid of "McCluess" you b***h but yet you were never happy with him. Nobody is happy with the Yorks but Jed does seem like he's trying but I'm sure you would make a better team president.

They timed it terribly. 5 weeks before the draft... They could have gotten Holmgren. Instead we have no GM.

Yes we could do better than Jed York as President. I'm starting to think even John York would be better to have back again...

Oh ya, that GRRRREEEAAAATTTT GM Mike Holmgren. Cause' that is what we needed. And how the F do you know they "timed it" at all?

What is wrong with Mike Holmgren? No smart ass answer or biased answer please. I truly don't understand why people don't like him.

I never said I don't like him. Just that it's pointless to whine about not getting him as GM. The reason not to give a damn that he isn't our GM is a.) he was regarded as a total failure as GM in Seattle, and b.) (this one is mainly my issue) we don't need a 60-something year old GM.

BTW he's not even the GM in Cleavland, he's the team president and they hired a new GM to run the personnel side of the business.

They guy turned 2 franchises into perennial winners who, coincidentally, were always kicking our ass. Just look at his track record:

Mike Holmgren - Wiki

I agree that his GM stint in Seattle wasn't the best, but he had way too much on his plate by trying to do multiple jobs.

He loves San Francisco and has very strong ties to this team so I personally think it would have been a great risk to take and let him take over at whatever capacity he wanted to this year.

As to the age remark. Who cares as long as he still knows how to win? Experience weighs much higher than innovation IMO (if that's why you would justify with youth). The game is not evolving into something these guys haven't seen before or at a rate in at which they couldn't adapt to.

We will see how much of an impact Holmgren truly has on the teams he is on if he turns the Browns around. I expect him to be 3 for 3 after he is done with them.
If anyone heard the interview on KNBR, Jed was talking about going door to door to promote a new stadium. Sorry, but that says a lot to me about his dedication to the job.

For all the people who hate on Jed York, look no further than the Cardinals. Bill Bidwell is known for being the cheapest owner in the league, but as soon as he handed the reigns over to his son, Michael, the Cardinals started getting better. Dont lump him in with his Father until he has earned that. At this point, he has said and done things the way I would hope an owner would. I am a fan.
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by miked1978:
it gets tiring reading threads like this. What I see is a personal matter with Scottie and Jed doesn't want to air the dirty laundry. Unfortunately it happened so close to the draft. Actually it seemed to have happened a few weeks ago and management seemed to have taken their time to do the right thing which could be a good thing. I'm sure you would have b***hed if they handled it too quickly.

I see your posts a lot and you are never happy. I don't think you have been happy with Scott "McClueless" or the Yorks. When they get rid of "McCluess" you b***h but yet you were never happy with him. Nobody is happy with the Yorks but Jed does seem like he's trying but I'm sure you would make a better team president.

They timed it terribly. 5 weeks before the draft... They could have gotten Holmgren. Instead we have no GM.

Yes we could do better than Jed York as President. I'm starting to think even John York would be better to have back again...

Oh ya, that GRRRREEEAAAATTTT GM Mike Holmgren. Cause' that is what we needed. And how the F do you know they "timed it" at all?

What is wrong with Mike Holmgren? No smart ass answer or biased answer please. I truly don't understand why people don't like him.

I never said I don't like him. Just that it's pointless to whine about not getting him as GM. The reason not to give a damn that he isn't our GM is a.) he was regarded as a total failure as GM in Seattle, and b.) (this one is mainly my issue) we don't need a 60-something year old GM.

BTW he's not even the GM in Cleavland, he's the team president and they hired a new GM to run the personnel side of the business.

They guy turned 2 franchises into perennial winners who, coincidentally, were always kicking our ass. Just look at his track record:

Mike Holmgren - Wiki

I agree that his GM stint in Seattle wasn't the best, but he had way too much on his plate by trying to do multiple jobs.

He loves San Francisco and has very strong ties to this team so I personally think it would have been a great risk to take and let him take over at whatever capacity he wanted to this year.

As to the age remark. Who cares as long as he still knows how to win? Experience weighs much higher than innovation IMO (if that's why you would justify with youth). The game is not evolving into something these guys haven't seen before or at a rate in at which they couldn't adapt to.

We will see how much of an impact Holmgren truly has on the teams he is on if he turns the Browns around. I expect him to be 3 for 3 after he is done with them.

His GM stint in Seattle was his only GM stint. What he did as a coach was great, but just like every coach a lot of it has to do with the situation he was put in.

As I just mentioned, he's not the GM in Cleveland. Now that they have a GM his role will be much like Jed's is here. Not all that involved in day-to-day football decisions. He obviously doesn't want to be a GM or Browns ownership doesn't want him to be, OR HE WOULD BE.
  • susweel
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San Diego you need to just chill out. Just enjoy the games for what they are. You know and I know that this team will never reach the level that they were but thats life. Im sure you wife or girlfriend dont look the same from when you met her. Stuff changes, just roll with the punches.

You have two options:

Either keep complaining about ownership and drive yourself crazy.

or

Find a new team root for them.
Originally posted by susweel:
Yah ownership sucks but whats the point about complaining about it. Its not like we can make them sell the team. If we still go and watch game and watch tv then there is no point about complaining about ownership.

Coaches, GMs, players are something that can be replaced. Replacing ownership is not easy and usually only occurs every few decades if it all.

What he said.............
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As of right now, imma wait to judge Jed. Did they know Scotty was gonna bounce months ago? Any hints that he might leave? I believe Jed did what he could under the circumstances. Time will tell....but seeing everything from the outside/a fan's point of view....time isn't on our side.
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