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Public reactions to Jed York.
Mar 23, 2010 at 5:27 AM
- GORO
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He handled himself pretty good. But that doesnot mean that we are finally turning the corner. And that the Yorks may finally provide a winning team.
Mar 23, 2010 at 5:38 AM
- PA9erFaithful
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
1) "Does anyone else find this press conference (to say nothing of the whole process) bizarre? How do you go from giving the keys to the kingdom to McCloughan to having it be in both parties' "best interest" to part just a few weeks before the draft? This organization is Dysfunctional (with a capital D)."
2) "If Jed York had any integrity he would get out of the football business. Jed is an absolute joke and his team is a laughingstock. If there was any hint that mccloughlin wasnt up to the job a couple months ago, the niners should have jumped on bruce allen or holmgren.
As the warrior situation shows, fans and the lack of money can force ownership moves. It is time for a real talk about boycotting this sorry organization, and its an especially good time when they decide to RAISE ticket prices by 10% after a non-playoff year.
Boycott this team, stop spending any more money on this inept family."
These two comments are just rants by a couple of ignoramuses that are butthurt that Jed didn't spill the beans on McCloughan's personal problems. They need to get over themselves.
Mar 23, 2010 at 6:00 AM
- blizzuntz
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not worried about it unless results are negative next season
Mar 23, 2010 at 6:01 AM
- Shifty
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Has this ever happened to another franchise? GM basically gets fired weeks before the draft and a huge one for us considering we got 2 first rounders
Mar 23, 2010 at 6:36 AM
- TheCatch
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Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Has this ever happened to another franchise? GM basically gets fired weeks before the draft and a huge one for us considering we got 2 first rounders
We're probably making sure we dont get a couple of oversized projects, and get a couple formidable playmaker/probowl quality starters that make us turn the corner. Scott whiffed on 1st rounders, because he went for size and strength (Balmer, Rachal) and passed on the more important speed and athleticism. Speed is hard to stop in this game, and that also goes for offensive lineman, like ours, that are too slow to turn around and block the faster guys that are getting to the pocket before our QB does. We have been trying to fix our o-line way too long, and have been drafting question marks the last couple years to not fix this. Maybe Solari and McC didnt see eye to eye on talent, and something had to be done. To get a player out of the draft that makes an immediate impact, wasnt in McCloughan's cards. I think we will fill our needs better without Scott. We'll see.
[ Edited by TheCatch on Mar 23, 2010 at 6:38 AM ]
Mar 23, 2010 at 6:43 AM
- TrailerParkMan
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Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Stop picking and choosing. Here are some other fans reactions:
"I just listened to the conference call on 49ers.com Two impressions:
1. Jed York handled himself very well in a situation where he obviously was not able to be specific. His answers were very clear when he could say something, and he stuck to the message "I can't comment on a private personnel matter" the rest of the time. We don't know any juicy details, but I think he handled himself very well."
"I agree, I was impressed by Jed's poise, and loyalty to SM's privacy. He seems focused on business as usual until after the draft, and I like that approach. I don't think the team will miss a beat in the short term. In the long term its logical to wait until after the draft to restructure team management."
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Fair to say Jed is genuinely concerned for the Franchise as well as Scot.
Give Jed his due for looking after the football interests BEFORE the Draft and recognizing potential for conflicts in job obligations.
Whatever created the rift, it's now settled. He cleared the air and removed any lengthy abscence concerns by being direct and parting ways.
On with the Business of Football.
Kudos to Jed for putting WINS and Playoffs into the fore, he is at least staying active as his Uncle Eddie did."
Also, for those of you who are younger or forgetful, Eddie D. was reviled and hated much worse than Jed back in the late 70's when he brought in Joe Thomas to rape the franchise and drive the team into the cellar. If you think THIS team is a joke . . . It was 95% Bill Walsh who saved this franchise. That and no salary cap. Veterans wanted to come here to end their careers and we had an endless parade of all pro free agents. Sure, Eddie paid them - but that was the easy part. . .Ask Al Davis about that.
Scot was not ALL THAT - this is a blip and we will be fine . . .
Mar 23, 2010 at 7:20 AM
- NJNinerFan
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I was a bit disappointed in the lack of details in Jed's speech. However, when I think about this whole deal. I really don't give a s**t about not having a GM as long as we still have a good draft and get this team into the playoffs.
Mar 23, 2010 at 7:27 AM
- Pick6
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Originally posted by leebert81:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by miked1978:
it gets tiring reading threads like this. What I see is a personal matter with Scottie and Jed doesn't want to air the dirty laundry. Unfortunately it happened so close to the draft. Actually it seemed to have happened a few weeks ago and management seemed to have taken their time to do the right thing which could be a good thing. I'm sure you would have b***hed if they handled it too quickly.
I see your posts a lot and you are never happy. I don't think you have been happy with Scott "McClueless" or the Yorks. When they get rid of "McCluess" you b***h but yet you were never happy with him. Nobody is happy with the Yorks but Jed does seem like he's trying but I'm sure you would make a better team president.
They timed it terribly. 5 weeks before the draft... They could have gotten Holmgren. Instead we have no GM.
Yes we could do better than Jed York as President. I'm starting to think even John York would be better to have back again...
You are the only one here comparing the Niners to the Lions and Raiders. You are the reason Niner fans are labeled as whiners. Do you ever read what you are saying? And Holmgren, as much as I like and respect him he wasn't that successful as a GM.
Jed handled this properly and professionally in my view. As a business owner I can tell you that unexpected situations arise where decisions need to be made promptly. The decision you make at the time is the best with the information you have at hand. For you to blindly b***h and moan about anything and everything management does when you do NOT have the knowledge at hand that they do simply shows you have not yet been promoted to night manager at Burger King or perhaps you would understand.
I am not worried about the draft or this organization moving forward. Scot did not make up the draft board by himself. I think Jed is doing a good job.
LB
my thoughts... exactly
Mar 23, 2010 at 7:39 AM
- mcbaes72
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(my post moved to official SM thread...)
[ Edited by mcbaes72 on Mar 23, 2010 at 8:48 AM ]
Mar 23, 2010 at 7:48 AM
- 9eridiot
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by confusedrhino:
Jed seems pretty awesome... not clueless like his father.
Don't hate, appreciate.
He might be worse in some ways. He demonstrates much less maturity which should be expected. His decisions are erratic and spur of the moment. Not well thought out at all for future planning.
San Diego,
Jed's attibututes are very much like his uncle's were in the 70's. Eddie's saving grace was hiring a father-figure in Walsh. This is what Jed must do now.
As far as the boycott goes, I'm cautious due to the evidence of the Yorks' erratic behavior. That, and the history of the Irsays, Bidwells, Davis and Frontierres of the league leads me to think the Yorks could very well join this infamous club if pushed too far. That frightens me.
So far, public opinion over the years has led to Papa York stepping away and assuming a less visible role. This has been a monumentally important, yet small, step. Another small, but important, step would be the hiring of a strong GM to further distance Papa from the team and, at the same time, give Jed some room to mature.
Baby steps, San Diego, baby steps ...
Mar 23, 2010 at 7:59 AM
- PowderdToastMn
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by Niners99:Originally posted by modninerfan:
new owners would be nice... but i'm not boycotting.
Ellison was pushing hard to buy the Niners a few years back, but Dr. York wouldnt sell for anything. considering Ellison is a multi-billionaire, Dr. York mustve just wanted to keep the team no matter what.
i wish Steve Young and Brent Jones' group had been able to buy the team.
Steve Young and Brent Jones would be better. Larry Ellison would be better.
Yeah because their track record is so proven, right?
STFU
Mar 23, 2010 at 8:11 AM
- Gavintech
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Originally posted by benton45:
Get off the MB...
Yes, please do! And while you're boycotting the Niners could you find it in your heart to boycott the WZ too? Great, thanks...
Mar 23, 2010 at 8:16 AM
- Gavintech
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by 16280:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by Niners99:Originally posted by modninerfan:
new owners would be nice... but i'm not boycotting.
Ellison was pushing hard to buy the Niners a few years back, but Dr. York wouldnt sell for anything. considering Ellison is a multi-billionaire, Dr. York mustve just wanted to keep the team no matter what.
i wish Steve Young and Brent Jones' group had been able to buy the team.
Steve Young and Brent Jones would be better. Larry Ellison would be better.
Steve Young and Brent Jones have only a tiny fraction of the money needed to buy the team. In past discussions of their involvement, they were only a part of the ownership group which could add name recognition and, possibly, some good advice.
It's hard to pull for Larry Ellison if you actually know what he's about. His ego and obnoxiousness would likely make you BEG for the Yorks. We're talking Dan Snyder West all the way. And while I don't have anything against gays or bisexuals, do you really want our team to be the first with an owner who has a reputation for "playing for both teams?" Can you imagine the ridicule from other fans?
I thought he was straight? But I really don't know and I don't care. He's a winner. Better than the Yorks who are just inherited money.
Eddie D inherited all his money (and the team).
John York may not be the best NFL owner but he's not stupid as you just called him and he's a self-made man.
Mar 23, 2010 at 8:18 AM
- Gavintech
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by miked1978:
it gets tiring reading threads like this. What I see is a personal matter with Scottie and Jed doesn't want to air the dirty laundry. Unfortunately it happened so close to the draft. Actually it seemed to have happened a few weeks ago and management seemed to have taken their time to do the right thing which could be a good thing. I'm sure you would have b***hed if they handled it too quickly.
I see your posts a lot and you are never happy. I don't think you have been happy with Scott "McClueless" or the Yorks. When they get rid of "McCluess" you b***h but yet you were never happy with him. Nobody is happy with the Yorks but Jed does seem like he's trying but I'm sure you would make a better team president.
They timed it terribly. 5 weeks before the draft... They could have gotten Holmgren. Instead we have no GM.
Yes we could do better than Jed York as President. I'm starting to think even John York would be better to have back again...
Oh ya, that GRRRREEEAAAATTTT GM Mike Holmgren. Cause' that is what we needed. And how the F do you know they "timed it" at all?
Mar 23, 2010 at 8:38 AM
- ninertico
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Hey SanDiego,
I've bashed you before because of the constant barrage of negativity and disdain for the team through "York" eyes, but it looked like you let it go for awhile.
It's back!
Seriously dude, it's too early for this toward Jed. If you want to crucify the son for the sins of the father, that's your choice although short-sighted and naive, IMO.
IMO, Jed should have said from day one, "We are handling it in-house and I will address the media formally in a few days..." That's it, period, end of discussion. He didn't and allowed the media, fans and public opinion boil in uncertainty.
That is my only beef in this drama. Jed needs to squelch the fires before they smolder and then comes a blaze.
Other than that, he's needs more time as this is only his second year as CEO.
JMTC...
Now SD, this will not be complete with your yawn smileys....c'mon...for ol' time sake...lol
I've bashed you before because of the constant barrage of negativity and disdain for the team through "York" eyes, but it looked like you let it go for awhile.
It's back!
Seriously dude, it's too early for this toward Jed. If you want to crucify the son for the sins of the father, that's your choice although short-sighted and naive, IMO.
IMO, Jed should have said from day one, "We are handling it in-house and I will address the media formally in a few days..." That's it, period, end of discussion. He didn't and allowed the media, fans and public opinion boil in uncertainty.
That is my only beef in this drama. Jed needs to squelch the fires before they smolder and then comes a blaze.
Other than that, he's needs more time as this is only his second year as CEO.
JMTC...
Now SD, this will not be complete with your yawn smileys....c'mon...for ol' time sake...lol