Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by 9eridiot:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by 9eridiot:
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It's just the Yorks being stupid and self destructing the team like they always do. Only the Yorks could come up with a plan to get rid of the GM 5 weeks before the draft with no replacement on hand. They could have done it at the very beginning of the offseason and may have been able to land the likes of Holmgren or Shannahan in the role if they were willing to pay for it. But they aren't willing to pay for it and everything the Yorks do is reactionary and spur of the moment with no forward planning. It's how the roll. Destroy the team and figure out the consequences later. It's how they have rolled for a decade.
You don't get it. They are not looking to bring someone from outside the organization in to replace Scott. THAT'S why it doesn't matter that he was canned 5 weeks before the draft. The Niners are going to make Baalk, Gamble, or Marathe GM and the team will continue forward with little change in the short term.
This in my opinion is not at all reactionary or spur of the moment, but a culmination of discretions that led to the change. I don't think for a moment that the management had any interest at all in GM candidates outside the team earlier this off-season. I think if anything, the team waited too long.
... and Balke it is !
True too, the team had no interest in GM candidates; but, more importantly, no GM candidates had any interest in the Niners. Why would a strong GM accept the restrictive conditions set by York?
Only a tool would do it ... and Balke it is !
Exactly what restrictive conditions are you speaking of?
WIN - totally agree with your perspective. Contrary to what people think here, I don't think the Yorks are reactionary - I think they take too long to make decisions. Case in point: the stadium. The Yorks are not football people and run their business like any corporation - conservatively. They initially brought that approach. That created the perfect situation that was resistant to change; firing Mooch took too long - he had long since lost the team. Firing of Donahue and Erickson took too long. Firing of Mike Nolan took too long. And if they thought McCloughan wasn't doing a good job. McCloughan said himself it was a longstanding issue. So obviously there was something going on for a while. Again, it took too long. If anything, the 49ers need an active owner - maybe Jed - who can make a good hire. It doesn't take a genius to make a great hire, it just needs to be an educated/smart hire. If anything the 49ers are still suffering from mistakes made years ago that are coming to light now.
Winner,
York set restrictive conditions in place when he took over. As NinerGM alludes, "the 49ers were still suffering from mistakes made years ago". I would argue that these prior mistakes, which led to 5 Super Bowl Championships, weren't mistakes at all - but, serendipitous actions which led to an organizational value on par with the f**king cowboys.
York, though, without a background or interest in football, came to the organization with one narrow-minded viewpoint toward the business that did not understand the complexities of a major sports franchise.
In so doing, he gutted the administrative complex that Eddie D established. The approach was an overall pragmatic restriction of expenitures - from the GM to the punter.
Eddie D wanted to win. Daddy York wants to make sure he makes money. It's a simple difference. Hopefully Sing can take the competitive squad that York allows purchased and win a division title for us fans.
The mistakes I'm alluding to are the mistakes the Yorks made in hiring DE and giving a rookie coach like Mike Nolan complete control over the rebuilding of an organization. McCloughan was a part of the Nolan regime. The point I was attempting to make was that the Yorks may have started out bad, but we've seen an evolution and in no small way. If the 49ers were only interested in money they wouldn't have brought in Jennings, Clements, Smith, and Jones (who I still think is a colossal waste of money).
Thanks GM,
I stand corrected re: past mistakes. My gist was comparing the York vs. Eddie D. 'business 'model'.
As to your point, I agree the Yorks started badly. I also believe York had a strong desire to not follow the path Eddie D laid out. He wanted to chart his own course and have future results unconnected to his brother-in-law.
As far as spending money and bringing in free agents, whether it was through Donohue, Nolan, McCloughan, or now Baalke & Gamble, the Niner GM can only spend money that York allows them to spend.
York's smart enough to realize that there has to be some base level of free agent signings to maintain a competitive product; and, I think that's where you've seen some good free agent signings like Justin and ... ?
But, you can't use the Clements signing as an example since he was forced by minimum cap rules that year to spend money.
What I'd really like to know is if Scot felt any pressure or if there was a strategy in place last year to throw away the #2 in case Crabtree was picked instead of Oher.
It seems clear that York has a pattern of primarily making fiscal rather than football decisions.
[ Edited by 9eridiot on Mar 22, 2010 at 2:24 AM ]
