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Michael Robinson HAS TO GO!

Originally posted by Ceadderman:
Wow can't believe this is still going on...


... well yeah okay I CAN believe it's still going.

Look this is REALLY simple folks.

You can pull out all the stats etc to support either side of this debate.

But I'm just going to set this match with this little fact.

Before this season Vernon Davis wasn't above or below average.

His numbers were rather MEH pedestrian to say the least. Alot of that had to do with him being held back to block more than it did his "lack of talent" as alot of people were suggesting.

Well to me this furor over MRob is pointless.

Because MRob is this year's Davis. He's good at something and the team took advantage of it. Doesn't mean there is no other part to his game. Just means that the team needed him to do his part because our PR game was crap.

He doesn't HAVE the Offensive stats cause they wanted Coffee to get the ball.

Also he was used as the backup FB to Norris. Hmmmm maybe I have an idea what I'm talkin about? Gee wonder who else was used as a FB for the 9ers... oh that's right Roger Craig.

Not saying that MRob will ever amount to what Craig did. Just saying that it's funny how many people think that Size is everything. If it was then we'd have a league full of Fridge Perry types totin the Rock and Opening Running lanes for the guy behind him.

But, how can you do ANYTHING if you aren't either given the ball or on the field?

You guys that want to move on from MRob crack me up. You're talkin out your backsides and the funny thing is you actually believe the garbage you're spewing about the man.

HE IS IN THE PRO BOWL FOR CRYIN OUT LOUD.

Too funny.

~Ceadder

Come on Ceadder... You're smarter than this.

M-Rob was what, the second best return man we had? The worst RB we had on our team last year? Average in # of tackles on ST? But, it was a good year for him right?
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Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by KknighthawkK_9er:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by TJA85:
Our FO got rid of Rossum and Everest, now you want us to get rid of our best STer? Hell no.

technically our best ST players this year were Delanie Walker and Marcus Hudson. Robinson didnt have a particularly good year on ST in 2009. but hes still very good at it.

lol i just looked up the stats, and Michael Robinson was rated a the 2nd best overall ST player in the NFL in 2007, but since has been nowhere to be found in 08 and 09. his ST performance has really dropped off the last couple years.

right now Delanie and Hudson are making the plays. Robinson actually had a poor statistical season on ST in 2008, and only played ST in 3 games last season...

maybe Robinson isnt quite the special teamer he used to be...

well now i feel a bit embarrassed to have defended him so much...


LOL where did you find ST Player rankings?

MRob had 12 tackles in 07 and 12 tackles this year
He had 2 KR for 51 yards in 07 and 18 for 414 yards this year
?

Rankings? Statistics for special teams? Oh boy, this is getting bad...

http://www.profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2009&pos=ST&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1

owned. shut your mouth.


Id rather believe NFL.com stats than pro football focus is it lol maybe they should focus a little harder I think they missed what 7 solo and 2 assisted tackles for MRob haha nice try though


All you guys crack me up with all the ‘3rd string running backs need to be productive’.

If your team has a top 5 running back the 3rd string guy should never see the field on offence lmfao need production oh yeah like Javon Ringer’s 8 carries for 48 yards REALLY helped the Titans out this year. I mean he’s the biggest reason C Johnson had such a great year.

WTF

I looked at every 3rd string running back in the NFC most are rookies or 2nd year guys with a few being guys on the last leg of their careers

Only one was a standout the Rookie for Arizona dude had over 1,200 return yards and 22 tackles now that’s a special guy

Only a handful of the guys even played special teams so maybe 70% of the 3rd string running backs in the NFC didn’t do crap for their teams and are just taking up space.

Being most are rookies and 2nd year guys it means that this is a position that gets turned over about every year because the guys are usually drafted in the latter rounds can’t make it at the next level and if they don’t become special teams standouts are usually gone.

Like I said before maybe we should get rid of Brian Jennings because he hasn’t recorded a stat in his 10 years in the league or maybe just dump Nate Davis cause he’s inactive every week.
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One of the best ST players in the NFL and a pretty solid 3rd RB. I think he is a pretty good roster spot.
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Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by KknighthawkK_9er:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by TJA85:
Our FO got rid of Rossum and Everest, now you want us to get rid of our best STer? Hell no.

technically our best ST players this year were Delanie Walker and Marcus Hudson. Robinson didnt have a particularly good year on ST in 2009. but hes still very good at it.

lol i just looked up the stats, and Michael Robinson was rated a the 2nd best overall ST player in the NFL in 2007, but since has been nowhere to be found in 08 and 09. his ST performance has really dropped off the last couple years.

right now Delanie and Hudson are making the plays. Robinson actually had a poor statistical season on ST in 2008, and only played ST in 3 games last season...

maybe Robinson isnt quite the special teamer he used to be...

well now i feel a bit embarrassed to have defended him so much...


LOL where did you find ST Player rankings?

MRob had 12 tackles in 07 and 12 tackles this year
He had 2 KR for 51 yards in 07 and 18 for 414 yards this year
?

Rankings? Statistics for special teams? Oh boy, this is getting bad...

http://www.profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2009&pos=ST&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1

owned. shut your mouth.


Id rather believe NFL.com stats than pro football focus is it lol maybe they should focus a little harder I think they missed what 7 solo and 2 assisted tackles for MRob haha nice try though


All you guys crack me up with all the ‘3rd string running backs need to be productive’.

If your team has a top 5 running back the 3rd string guy should never see the field on offence lmfao need production oh yeah like Javon Ringer’s 8 carries for 48 yards REALLY helped the Titans out this year. I mean he’s the biggest reason C Johnson had such a great year.

WTF

I looked at every 3rd string running back in the NFC most are rookies or 2nd year guys with a few being guys on the last leg of their careers

Only one was a standout the Rookie for Arizona dude had over 1,200 return yards and 22 tackles now that’s a special guy


Only a handful of the guys even played special teams so maybe 70% of the 3rd string running backs in the NFC didn’t do crap for their teams and are just taking up space.

Being most are rookies and 2nd year guys it means that this is a position that gets turned over about every year because the guys are usually drafted in the latter rounds can’t make it at the next level and if they don’t become special teams standouts are usually gone.

Like I said before maybe we should get rid of Brian Jennings because he hasn’t recorded a stat in his 10 years in the league or maybe just dump Nate Davis cause he’s inactive every week.

And that in itself hurts the argument for Spiller. Stephens-Howling = 7th round pick. Leon Washington who is part of the Jets backfield was a 4th and is a great returner, Sproles was a #3 to start and developed nicely but early on he was but a returner and was also a 4th round pick.

If we want to add a speed back we could do so in the middle rounds and you look for one with return skills preferably and we would carry 4 RB's with MRob serving as the ST's ace and could fill in at RB, FB or HBack and be an emergency QB in a pinch if needed.
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
The only reason why this thread exists is because people expect the 3rd string RB to go on the field and score TDs. Anything less, is unwarranted a roster spot regardless of whether they make any impact in any other facet of the game.

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This is one of the dumbest things I've read on here...

People expect the #3 back to be a developmental position instead of a placeholder for a ST guy... So tell me, how much has M-Rob developed as a RB and would we be a better team if we were developing RBs?

How many 3rd stringers go on to become solid starters? The only true position that where a player is groomed if he's at 3rd string is usually QB - such as our case with Nate Davis. It doesn't happen often, usually 1st rounders are brought in over the 3rd stringers who are in most cases, late round picks.

Yes, Robinson probably will never develop into anything other than a mediocre RB, but if he's a good STeamer, why the hell shouldn't we keep him, especially when we're already developing another RB in Coffee?

-9fA

As you said MRob will probably never be anything more then a good ST player, so wouldn't you rather have a guy who is not only a good ST'r, but also has some developing to do and who could possibly contribute more then just ST's down the road?

This was our special teams unit from the SD exhibition game (I couldn't find a more current roster):
T.Brown, McKillop, Ulbrich, M.Harris, R.Smith, D.Evans, Norris, Balmer, D.Walker, M.Robinson and Rossum.

Now as you will see, a lot of those players are really in the same boat as Robinson. Many of those players are 2nd and 3rd stringers who rarely see the field on either offense and defense, in fact the bulk of their playing time is usually on special teams.

I would also say that Smith, Evans, and even McKillop may NEVER see the field in the foreseeable future.

Again, this is just one example. The point that i'm trying to make here is that it's OK to reserve a spot for a player who is a special teams ace if they do that job well.

-9fA
The point I am making is that Robinson may be occupying a spot that a guy with potential at the position could be occupying, thus causing us to lose that guy to another team. Example: Kory Sheets.

I don't give a damn how other 3rd string RBs' stats look. The point is we won't have Gore forever and Robinson's presence at RB could be hurting our future at the position because guys with potential like Sheets or Clayton get put on the practice squad because of Robinson, who has very little potential at his given position.
[ Edited by 49erRider on Jan 25, 2010 at 11:47 AM ]

Originally posted by znk916:


WTF is the point of bumping this?
Originally posted by HessianDud:
Originally posted by znk916:


WTF is the point of bumping this?

he's bumped like 3 threads so far......
LOL at some of the posts in this thread.
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So He's Gone Now..MODS Lock This Bytch Up!!
Originally posted by DRnSFw:
So He's Gone Now..MODS Lock This Bytch Up!!

They aint gonna listen until you start throwing some porn up in this BeOtch!
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by DRnSFw:
So He's Gone Now..MODS Lock This Bytch Up!!

They aint gonna listen until you start throwing some porn up in this BeOtch!




Waiting to see who takes the bait.