Go back in the thread. You'll see that the point of bringing up Rodgers was to show that he's successful despite his line. That's where YOU stepped in with your "double standard" s**t.
Ok my bad I must have misunderstood. With all the bullsht comparisons that go on its easy to misunderstand.
I was merely pointing out that all good QBs don't have great offensive lines in response to hondakiller. I still don't understand what you were trying to say. You're implying that Rodgers has an "excuse" for his play.
*Yes, as in an excuse for last Sunday. Not his career or year. Had Alex been in Rodgers situation, I'm sure he could find ways to compensate for bad o-line play the way Rodgers has. I wanted to draft Rodgers but we didnt. We drafted Alex. Luckily Meyer told us how to develop Alex. Of course this team chose to ignore that.
I think that only weakens your argument for Smith because despite how bad Rodgers' line has been, he's still posting a 103 QB rating.
Fair enough. Again though, if you cant see that they were developed differently thus having an effect on their success...I really dont know what to tell you.
Of course we can't compare Smith and Rodgers though, since that's blasphemy. I mean, hell, they were only drafted in the same year and thought of as top prospects coming into the NFL.
*Pretty much where the similarities end. If you can say with a straight face that Rodgers succeeds in SF after going through everything Smith has...I dont know what to tell you. I think even Aaron Rodgers would agree with me. Im sure he counts his blessings every day.
In any case, I find it laughable that you think Smith had a bad offensive line in 2006.
*It wasnt that bad. Thats when he showed the most improvement. But compared to other elite O-lines...its not that great. In GENERAL, his o-line has been below average. Thats not an excuse, thats a fact. I agree Alex had deficiencies though. Where did I say he didnt?
That offensive line was good at both pass blocking and run blocking. I also find it ridiculous that you continue to blame all of Smith's deficiencies on people around him.
*Run blocking was good yes. Pass blocking was OKAY. And I never blame ALL of Smiths deficiencies on people around him. Ive been one of the more level headed posters on here and I think I'm pretty fair in my criticisms and praise. Unlike some, I didnt go from Smith to Hill to JTO then back to Hill, then back to Smith, then now to Davis, etc etc. Ive pretty much maintained, Smith should be the guy, and if he proves to be the long term answer then it saves this team a LOT of head ache. And Smiths deficiencies are because of him and our mishandling. How do you not see that? Dont you like to quote Urban Meyer? I mean we make this 50 million dollar investment and the guy who coached Smith told us EXACTLY what TO and NOT TO do with Smith. We fvcked up. Bottom line. So Alex's deficiencies are only going to be even MORE pronounced.
The 3rd thing I find insane is how you think that Rodgers' success is based on the fact that "at one point" he had a great line. LOL, how far are you going to reach? Isn't it clear that not all QBs are created equal when they get to the NFL?
*I never said I think Rodger's success was based on the fact that he had a great line once. Stop putting words in my mouth. How far are you going to reach? And how much are you going to ignore the circumstances surrounding both QBs when the got drafted by their teams in 05. Again, do you honestly believe that Rodgers would have had the same success if he was put in Smiths situation? I doubt it. You may disagree and thats fine. I just find that "insane."
Why the hell is it so hard to come to the conclusion that maybe, just maybe, Alex Smith isn't that good? Stop looking at everything around him for once.
*I never said Alex was a great QB. Ive maintained that he had a bad game. In fact I think I was one of the few Alex supporters that said, it really doesnt matter who's fault the INTs were...the bottom line is that they happened. And "why the hell is it so hard to come to the conclusion that maybe, just maybe," if we brought Smith along the same was as Rodgers, he might be finding the same degree of success as Rodgers?
Like I said earlier, I like Smith as our starting QB right now and I think he's improved. But really, some of you homers need to take the blinders off.
*And some of you "realists" need to start looking at things more "realistically."