Post Game Analysis (vs. Saints)

Originally posted by Dominate:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Dominate:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Dominate:

Originally posted by znk916:

Originally posted by Dominate:

Originally posted by znk916:

Originally posted by Dominate:

Originally posted by BobS:

Originally posted by znk916:
I like how he just ignores the possibility of failing the 2 pt conversion and not having enough time left to recover an onside kick and kick a fg.

Valid point, but if you look at the odds the chances of a success on a 2pt conversion are 40% and onside kick around 10%. The Saints getting in FG range with 2 to's and 1:30 were probably 50%. Replay the same game 100 times and running down the clock would have produced the best results.

Exactly what i just said, good post Bob.

I'm pretty sure onside kick recovery rate is much higher, around 40% I think?

I suppose if someone has advanced stats out there, they could tell us which strategy was better, but I suspect the end results would be pretty similar, not decisively one way or the other

40% if that was the case why would you ever even kick off?

whoops I just looked it up, looks like its closer to 25%

But that number includes surprise onside kicks too. When a team knows its coming its closer to 10%.

Why does the 10% matter, when there was a 60% chance that we wouldn't convert the 2 point conversion and would have to take our chances on the onside kick no matter what % recovery rate it was.

Thats playing scared and results in losses. Failure is not an option and thats not how you coach a team. WE WILL SCORE A TD AND WE WILL GET THE 2 POINT AND WE WILL NOT LEAVE THE SAINTS ANY TIME. Thats how you coach a team. You either get it done or you dont.

How is it playing scared when they let the D go out on the field? They trust the D.

Playing scared would be leaving time on the clock because you dont think you can get the td and the 2 point. Thats playing scared and not confident!

Originally posted by samoan49er:

Originally posted by Dominate:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Dominate:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Dominate:

Originally posted by znk916:

Originally posted by Dominate:

Originally posted by znk916:

Originally posted by Dominate:

Originally posted by BobS:

Originally posted by znk916:
I like how he just ignores the possibility of failing the 2 pt conversion and not having enough time left to recover an onside kick and kick a fg.

Valid point, but if you look at the odds the chances of a success on a 2pt conversion are 40% and onside kick around 10%. The Saints getting in FG range with 2 to's and 1:30 were probably 50%. Replay the same game 100 times and running down the clock would have produced the best results.

Exactly what i just said, good post Bob.

I'm pretty sure onside kick recovery rate is much higher, around 40% I think?

I suppose if someone has advanced stats out there, they could tell us which strategy was better, but I suspect the end results would be pretty similar, not decisively one way or the other

40% if that was the case why would you ever even kick off?

whoops I just looked it up, looks like its closer to 25%

But that number includes surprise onside kicks too. When a team knows its coming its closer to 10%.

Why does the 10% matter, when there was a 60% chance that we wouldn't convert the 2 point conversion and would have to take our chances on the onside kick no matter what % recovery rate it was.

Thats playing scared and results in losses. Failure is not an option and thats not how you coach a team. WE WILL SCORE A TD AND WE WILL GET THE 2 POINT AND WE WILL NOT LEAVE THE SAINTS ANY TIME. Thats how you coach a team. You either get it done or you dont.

How is it playing scared when they let the D go out on the field? They trust the D.

Playing scared would be leaving time on the clock because you dont think you can get the td and the 2 point. Thats playing scared and not confident!

But why leave no time on the clock for the Saints??? Oh that's right, because we're "scared" that the Saints might score and not "confident" in our defense to win the game..

Originally posted by Dominate:

Originally posted by samoan49er:

Originally posted by Dominate:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Dominate:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Dominate:

Originally posted by znk916:

Originally posted by Dominate:

Originally posted by znk916:

Originally posted by Dominate:

Originally posted by BobS:

Originally posted by znk916:
I like how he just ignores the possibility of failing the 2 pt conversion and not having enough time left to recover an onside kick and kick a fg.

Valid point, but if you look at the odds the chances of a success on a 2pt conversion are 40% and onside kick around 10%. The Saints getting in FG range with 2 to's and 1:30 were probably 50%. Replay the same game 100 times and running down the clock would have produced the best results.

Exactly what i just said, good post Bob.

I'm pretty sure onside kick recovery rate is much higher, around 40% I think?

I suppose if someone has advanced stats out there, they could tell us which strategy was better, but I suspect the end results would be pretty similar, not decisively one way or the other

40% if that was the case why would you ever even kick off?

whoops I just looked it up, looks like its closer to 25%

But that number includes surprise onside kicks too. When a team knows its coming its closer to 10%.

Why does the 10% matter, when there was a 60% chance that we wouldn't convert the 2 point conversion and would have to take our chances on the onside kick no matter what % recovery rate it was.

Thats playing scared and results in losses. Failure is not an option and thats not how you coach a team. WE WILL SCORE A TD AND WE WILL GET THE 2 POINT AND WE WILL NOT LEAVE THE SAINTS ANY TIME. Thats how you coach a team. You either get it done or you dont.

How is it playing scared when they let the D go out on the field? They trust the D.

Playing scared would be leaving time on the clock because you dont think you can get the td and the 2 point. Thats playing scared and not confident!

But why leave no time on the clock for the Saints??? Oh that's right, because we're "scared" that the Saints might score and not "confident" in our defense to win the game..

Thats what you would call an unnecessary risk when a team has 2 timeouts. That would fall under the category of stupid not scared.

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Watching the NFL replay right now, damn Delanie Walker is f**king dangerous on the screen pass when we spread the offense out! Noticed this all throughout the game (and recall it from the Raiders game in the preseason).

Even remember us doing this all over the final drive, we can be a dangerous team when we actually utilize our depth weapons.

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Watching the NFL replay right now, damn Delanie Walker is f**king dangerous on the screen pass when we spread the offense out! Noticed this all throughout the game (and recall it from the Raiders game in the preseason).

Even remember us doing this all over the final drive, we can be a dangerous team when we actually utilize our depth weapons.

hes a YAC machine

just needs to work on the damn fumbles nevertheless i love it when he touches the ball