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Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by Nes49:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
From the looks of it, Alex is going to be throwing to Morgan, Ginn, and Delanie on Sunday.

Cool. Get that work in with them & develop.

that sucks our 3 best offensive players will be out on sunday

Preseason!

Its time to develop our depth now

its not that i just dont feel like hearing how bad our 1st team O is eventhough were missing our top 3 offensive players

Yup
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Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
From the looks of it, Alex is going to be throwing to Morgan, Ginn, and Delanie on Sunday.

I hope no one uses that as an excuse when Alex has a sub par game.

mmm gotta love that confidence!

not like he's lead me to believe otherwise.

Go watch the Jacksonville, Houston and Seattle game from last year.
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by Nes49:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
From the looks of it, Alex is going to be throwing to Morgan, Ginn, and Delanie on Sunday.

Cool. Get that work in with them & develop.

that sucks our 3 best offensive players will be out on sunday

Preseason!

Its time to develop our depth now

its not that i just dont feel like hearing how bad our 1st team O is eventhough were missing our top 3 offensive players

That's completely reasonable, especially considering the amount of HATE in the Alex Smith Bandwagon thread, but a devastating injury is way worse than some piss-poor timing between our QB and our receivers.

Hopefully, Morgan, Ginn, and Zeigler will all contribute so there wont have to be an entire weeks worth of b***ting going on about one or two throws Alex made in a preseason game.
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by D_Niner:

Why are there more and more posters on here concerned with "destroying someone" instead of talking football?

Don't act like you guys came to this thread to talk football. Can't talk football with you guys because you are totally unreasonable and don't know enough about football to even have a decent conversation with. Anyone with any sense can see what you guys agenda is, and it has more to do with bashing the starting QB than talking football. Look at it this way, this year either we win with Smith or you guys will have to move on to the next player on the roster you choose to dislike for whatever bulls**t reason you want to make up.

The only thing destroyed in this thread is the credibility of people that deal only in absolutes, and say ignorant things like "Smith has never done anything" or "he will never be any good". Not one of you football geniuses is clairvoyant, sometimes I wonder if the term cogent even applies. It seems to me you guys are more invested in Smith than the guys that hope for him to succeed, you certainly seem obsessed with blaming one person for a teams shortcomings. Personally I don't care who the QB as long as he doesn't cost us games, but I know however you declaim it, you will never be happy unless Smith fails miserably so you can happily claim to be right while we watch other teams advance in the playoffs. It must be a miserable existence to be such a person.

Why you coming at me kid? Did I say something that I don't remember? And when did I say all this that you're so generously giving me credit for?

I'll have you know that I've forgotten more about Football over the last 40 years than you will ever know... So why don't you take some of your own advice and stop blaming me for every little thing. I swear some of you drama queens need to get a life....


For the record everyone. I'm disappointed with Smiths performance; but, hope he turns it around. I, in now way, have blinders on as to his prior performances with our team and would love it if he somehow flipped that proverbial switch on in his football mind and started playing like an above average QB (we did not draft him first overall to be Below-Average to Average).

First of all, I am by no means a kid, as you would plainly see if you check my profile. I posted my name, age and other pertinent info in my profile because I do not mind in the least it being known who I am. I, unlike most who post here, do not feel the need to use the anonymity of the internet to hide. What I say here I stand behind as any man of integrity should.

As to your knowledge of football, it was not yours I meant to question but the posters earlier in the long lines of quotation. Your defense in earlier posts of the nonsense some of the less reasonable gentlemen lead me to believe you were in their camp. In your arguments you at least provide some measure of reason instead of the blanket statements that some like Bill/Fly/ZRF and others along that line. As to my football knowledge, I doubt you know any more than I, though there is no way to be sure, nor do I care enough to make an issue of it.

As it turns out, you and I share a common opinion on the quarterback situation. I am not satisfied with Smith's play in general, but have seen enough improvement to totally discount anyone that says he has never shown anything, or tries to lay the failures of this team on any one player. I apologize if I have offended you, having thought you to be one of the ignorant that irrationally dogs on our teams players as if they were rabid cowgirl or shehawk fans. No matter how much we all disagree, we must all remember we want the same thing, we all root for the same team, and win or lose, we are all in this thing together.
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
I am not satisfied with Smith's play in general, but have seen enough improvement to totally discount anyone that says he has never shown anything, or tries to lay the failures of this team on any one player.

THIS is full of win.
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
I am not satisfied with Smith's play in general, but have seen enough improvement to totally discount anyone that says he has never shown anything, or tries to lay the failures of this team on any one player.

THIS is full of win.

+1 concise and precise!
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Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
I am not satisfied with Smith's play in general, but have seen enough improvement to totally discount anyone that says he has never shown anything, or tries to lay the failures of this team on any one player.

THIS is full of win.

It's a statement that rides the fence and says nothing really. What does it really say? Smith hasn't been great, but everything hasn't been his fault either. The sky isn't green and it's not really yellow either......
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by Nes49:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
From the looks of it, Alex is going to be throwing to Morgan, Ginn, and Delanie on Sunday.

Cool. Get that work in with them & develop.

that sucks our 3 best offensive players will be out on sunday

Preseason!

Its time to develop our depth now

its not that i just dont feel like hearing how bad our 1st team O is eventhough were missing our top 3 offensive players

Yup

Yeah if the starting O does nothing again Smith is going to get killed on here. We only have 1 starting WR/TE/RB actually playing with him(Morgan)
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
I am not satisfied with Smith's play in general, but have seen enough improvement to totally discount anyone that says he has never shown anything, or tries to lay the failures of this team on any one player.

THIS is full of win.

+1 concise and precise!

I think in general, a so-called Alex Smith supporter or homer or whatever you call it, would acknowledge his downfalls. Of course they know he hasn't been great, but at the same time they are able to see the improvements he has made.

As far as the haters go, oftentimes referred to as "realists", far too often they just dismiss any kind of imrpovement Smith has made. Statements like "he hasn't done s*** his whole career" or even that he hasn't had one good game are absolutely false. The Niners have hit about a 7-year skid, and Smith has become the Poster-child as the reason for it, fair or not.
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
From the looks of it, Alex is going to be throwing to Morgan, Ginn, and Delanie on Sunday.

I hope no one uses that as an excuse when Alex has a sub par game.

mmm gotta love that confidence!

not like he's lead me to believe otherwise.

Go watch the Jacksonville, Houston and Seattle game from last year.

Go watch Chicago, Tennessee and Detroit from last year
Originally posted by Shaj:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
I am not satisfied with Smith's play in general, but have seen enough improvement to totally discount anyone that says he has never shown anything, or tries to lay the failures of this team on any one player.

THIS is full of win.

It's a statement that rides the fence and says nothing really. What does it really say? Smith hasn't been great, but everything hasn't been his fault either. The sky isn't green and it's not really yellow either......

I disagree. It says a lot. Among other things:

--One need not be fully satisfied with Smith's past to expect more from him in the future. Things can and do change. There are signs of that change present with Smith.

--Smith has not played as well as he should have.

--Smith's lack of success is not 100% his fault. Call it "excuses," circumstances, bad luck or whatever.

--Football is a TEAM SPORT. The best QB in the world can't carry a s**tty team and an awesome team cannot carry a s**tty QB.

2.6875 years worth of games. Smith needs to put it together NOW or leave.
Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
From the looks of it, Alex is going to be throwing to Morgan, Ginn, and Delanie on Sunday.

I hope no one uses that as an excuse when Alex has a sub par game.

mmm gotta love that confidence!

not like he's lead me to believe otherwise.

Go watch the Jacksonville, Houston and Seattle game from last year.

Go watch Chicago, Tennessee and Detroit from last year

So Smith's performance last year was a MIXED BAG. That's not news. He had some games that were more impressive than others, but generally his play improved throughout the season.

And this offseason has been full of "Alex making strides", "taking control", "ownership", these weren't aspects of previous years' camps by any of the QBs for the past 7 years.

So yes, you can gravitate to his poor play or conveniently only remember his good play, but when it comes down to it, we are looking for MARKED IMPROVEMENT, not a Peyton Manning behind center.
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by D_Niner:

Why are there more and more posters on here concerned with "destroying someone" instead of talking football?

Don't act like you guys came to this thread to talk football. Can't talk football with you guys because you are totally unreasonable and don't know enough about football to even have a decent conversation with. Anyone with any sense can see what you guys agenda is, and it has more to do with bashing the starting QB than talking football. Look at it this way, this year either we win with Smith or you guys will have to move on to the next player on the roster you choose to dislike for whatever bulls**t reason you want to make up.

The only thing destroyed in this thread is the credibility of people that deal only in absolutes, and say ignorant things like "Smith has never done anything" or "he will never be any good". Not one of you football geniuses is clairvoyant, sometimes I wonder if the term cogent even applies. It seems to me you guys are more invested in Smith than the guys that hope for him to succeed, you certainly seem obsessed with blaming one person for a teams shortcomings. Personally I don't care who the QB as long as he doesn't cost us games, but I know however you declaim it, you will never be happy unless Smith fails miserably so you can happily claim to be right while we watch other teams advance in the playoffs. It must be a miserable existence to be such a person.

Why you coming at me kid? Did I say something that I don't remember? And when did I say all this that you're so generously giving me credit for?

I'll have you know that I've forgotten more about Football over the last 40 years than you will ever know... So why don't you take some of your own advice and stop blaming me for every little thing. I swear some of you drama queens need to get a life....


For the record everyone. I'm disappointed with Smiths performance; but, hope he turns it around. I, in now way, have blinders on as to his prior performances with our team and would love it if he somehow flipped that proverbial switch on in his football mind and started playing like an above average QB (we did not draft him first overall to be Below-Average to Average).

...instead of the blanket statements that some like Bill/Fly/ZRF and others along that line.

I should leave it at that -- but I'll give you some generalizations and your responses, Memphis.

Generalization: Alex Smith has yet to lead us to the playoffs.

Memphis: *Alexcuses*

Generalization: Alex Smith has not produced a single winning season.

Memphis: *Alexcuses*

Generalization: Alex Smith has yet to perform well on a Big Game Stage.

Memphis: *Alexcuses*

Finally -- there has been absolutely no response from Smith supporters on the one question I have continually asked:

How can you possibly continue to support this guy? Do you like suffering through losing seasons?

I'd really like to hear some answers. Not excuses. No more of those. I've heard them all. All of us have. What is it about Alex Smith that makes you believe he will suddenly start performing well?
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by D_Niner:

Why are there more and more posters on here concerned with "destroying someone" instead of talking football?

Don't act like you guys came to this thread to talk football. Can't talk football with you guys because you are totally unreasonable and don't know enough about football to even have a decent conversation with. Anyone with any sense can see what you guys agenda is, and it has more to do with bashing the starting QB than talking football. Look at it this way, this year either we win with Smith or you guys will have to move on to the next player on the roster you choose to dislike for whatever bulls**t reason you want to make up.

The only thing destroyed in this thread is the credibility of people that deal only in absolutes, and say ignorant things like "Smith has never done anything" or "he will never be any good". Not one of you football geniuses is clairvoyant, sometimes I wonder if the term cogent even applies. It seems to me you guys are more invested in Smith than the guys that hope for him to succeed, you certainly seem obsessed with blaming one person for a teams shortcomings. Personally I don't care who the QB as long as he doesn't cost us games, but I know however you declaim it, you will never be happy unless Smith fails miserably so you can happily claim to be right while we watch other teams advance in the playoffs. It must be a miserable existence to be such a person.

Why you coming at me kid? Did I say something that I don't remember? And when did I say all this that you're so generously giving me credit for?

I'll have you know that I've forgotten more about Football over the last 40 years than you will ever know... So why don't you take some of your own advice and stop blaming me for every little thing. I swear some of you drama queens need to get a life....


For the record everyone. I'm disappointed with Smiths performance; but, hope he turns it around. I, in now way, have blinders on as to his prior performances with our team and would love it if he somehow flipped that proverbial switch on in his football mind and started playing like an above average QB (we did not draft him first overall to be Below-Average to Average).

...instead of the blanket statements that some like Bill/Fly/ZRF and others along that line.

I should leave it at that -- but I'll give you some generalizations and your responses, Memphis.

Generalization: Alex Smith has yet to lead us to the playoffs.

Memphis: *Alexcuses*

Generalization: Alex Smith has not produced a single winning season.

Memphis: *Alexcuses*

Generalization: Alex Smith has yet to perform well on a Big Game Stage.

Memphis: *Alexcuses*

Finally -- there has been absolutely no response from Smith supporters on the one question I have continually asked:

How can you possibly continue to support this guy? Do you like suffering through losing seasons?

I'd really like to hear some answers. Not excuses. No more of those. I've heard them all. All of us have. What is it about Alex Smith that makes you believe he will suddenly start performing well?

Because he is our QB and I am a 49ers fan. Therefore, I want him to succeed. I do understand to temper my expectations, but that doesn't mean I'm going to bad mouth my team's QB when I have ABSOLUTELY NO CHOICE IN THE MATTER!
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by Shaj:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
I am not satisfied with Smith's play in general, but have seen enough improvement to totally discount anyone that says he has never shown anything, or tries to lay the failures of this team on any one player.

THIS is full of win.

It's a statement that rides the fence and says nothing really. What does it really say? Smith hasn't been great, but everything hasn't been his fault either. The sky isn't green and it's not really yellow either......

2.6875 years worth of games. Smith needs to put it together NOW or leave.

Shaj is right on the money. And while the Alexcusionists are now counting the actual YEARS that Alex has just been on the field -- I suppose this means that Aaron Rodgers has only been playing for two seasons? Those three years on the bench watching Brett Farve don't count?

Alex sitting on the bench and watching the action unfold in front of him doesn't count as experience?
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