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singletary MAKING BIG MISTAKES.

Originally posted by ObePwnD:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by ObePwnD:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by ObePwnD:
Originally posted by dust-7:
Originally posted by ObePwnD:
Dude, it was call a "Pep Rally" by two well known clowns in Niner Talk and you sound just like them.

If you get to call me a clown, because I "sound just like them", I guess I can call you the same - if it's okay to invoke personal insults, here.

Thought it wasn't.

I thought the idea was that if you have something to say - be a man and say it. If you object to something, say specifically what it is. Why do you disagree? Why is it wrong? Etc.

And don't tell me to forget Bill Walsh, or Lombardi, or any great players of the past. YOU forget 'em. Don't tell ME to forget them.

I'm not going to do that. And you'll have to live with that?

And don't talk about "positives" when you go around calling people names just because they disagree with you. There's NOTHING positive about that. It's childish. It's weak.

Don't you see that?

Again, if there's something specific, fine. Let's talk about it.

I didn't specifically call you any name, dude. If you want to put a weenie ass spin on it, go ahead and cry to the Mods.

OK let's leave it like this: There's nothing specific for me and you to talk about, OK. I don't have sh*t to say to you and shouldn't have sh*t to say to me, dude. And another thing, I'm all man and I'll man up to what ever, remember that.





Go ahead SD, provoke him.
You would love to see me gone, wouldn't you?


Yeah, I thought so.

C'mon guys. I don't want to see anyone gone. Cool it now.....
Originally posted by singfan:
Originally posted by Thizz415:
Originally posted by singfan:
Originally posted by ObePwnD:
Originally posted by singfan:
Originally posted by miked1978:
I love how the wheels on the bandwagon fall off when we lose one game.

I don't give a damn about the timeouts. He's a different kind of coach, let him coach how he wants.

We got our butts kicked by a good Atlanta team. It happens, get over it. You're an idiot if you think we are playoff caliber. The only reason we are even close to the playoffs is because we play in the NFC West.

I like Singletary. He knows Xs and Os more than any of us armchair GMs. This is his first full year as head coach, he's going to make mistkes. Lets see how the team does the rest of the season before we all jump off the wagon.


Listen, he's flat out over matched and was an awful hire. This really wasn't very difficult to see coming. Sabrason and I pounded these thoughts relentlessly during the off season, and to think that some are just starting to pay attention . Hey, sing would be a great guy to have for a grandpa, but we didn't need a grandpa ( except that big baby Vernon), we needed a high caliber NFL coach that could come in here and actually COACH. We needed a guy that could actually scheme. We could have gotten this same BS from a high school gym teacher. Heck, I would hire a high school history teacher over sing right freaking now.

Howz your lackey Sabrason doing anyway?



I see you're not so hot on sing anymore. I accept your apology. Sabrason does as well. We are only here to educate and inform.

Get Shanahan before the Chargers get him!!!!

Hahahahahahahhahahahahahah.

You haven't informed anyone of anything, much less eduacated them.


I certainly haven't eduacated them.

FYI... I am a highly enlightened poster. Easily in the top .5 percent. It's about track record, my brother. I can't think of a time that I've been wrong about the direction of this franchise. I'm probably not going to start being wrong now. This is Fiji water clear.
Biggest mistake.....,, you.

Wot a bunch-o-wankers, get a clue.

U know San Diego County used to be a lot of funm, till people like you were born.
How's that?
Lovin life?
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Originally posted by ObePwnD:
Originally posted by dust-7:
If you get to call me a clown, because I "sound just like them", I guess I can call you the same - if it's okay to invoke personal insults, here.

Thought it wasn't.

I didn't specifically call you any name, dude.

Yeah - ya did. I pointed it out.

You say you're 'man enough'. Well, a man doesn't say the things you say. If you have something to say - say it. Be specific. If you disagree with something, be specific. Maybe we won't agree. But I can't very well discuss anything with someone who seems to be in the middle of a sort of tantrum. Understand?
Originally posted by singfan:
Originally posted by Thizz415:
Originally posted by singfan:
Originally posted by ObePwnD:
Originally posted by singfan:
Originally posted by miked1978:
I love how the wheels on the bandwagon fall off when we lose one game.

I don't give a damn about the timeouts. He's a different kind of coach, let him coach how he wants.

We got our butts kicked by a good Atlanta team. It happens, get over it. You're an idiot if you think we are playoff caliber. The only reason we are even close to the playoffs is because we play in the NFC West.

I like Singletary. He knows Xs and Os more than any of us armchair GMs. This is his first full year as head coach, he's going to make mistkes. Lets see how the team does the rest of the season before we all jump off the wagon.


Listen, he's flat out over matched and was an awful hire. This really wasn't very difficult to see coming. Sabrason and I pounded these thoughts relentlessly during the off season, and to think that some are just starting to pay attention . Hey, sing would be a great guy to have for a grandpa, but we didn't need a grandpa ( except that big baby Vernon), we needed a high caliber NFL coach that could come in here and actually COACH. We needed a guy that could actually scheme. We could have gotten this same BS from a high school gym teacher. Heck, I would hire a high school history teacher over sing right freaking now.

Howz your lackey Sabrason doing anyway?



I see you're not so hot on sing anymore. I accept your apology. Sabrason does as well. We are only here to educate and inform.

Get Shanahan before the Chargers get him!!!!

Hahahahahahahhahahahahahah.

You haven't informed anyone of anything, much less eduacated them.


I certainly haven't eduacated them.

FYI... I am a highly enlightened poster. Easily in the top .5 percent. It's about track record, my brother. I can't think of a time that I've been wrong about the direction of this franchise. I'm probably not going to start being wrong now. This is Fiji water clear.



LB
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Ceadderman:
Originally posted by gravelburn:
The argument that Crabtree shouln't get much time because he doesn't know the playbook is like saying Braylon Edwards should have sat out the first few games with the Jets while he learned their playbook. The fact is you want your best weapons on the field. I can't imagine Crabtree knows the playbook as well as Morgan, but the coaches obviously think that despite his late arrival, he still has some play-making ability that would be a waste if he were to be on the sideline.

Of course Singletary has to worry about how any preferential treatment might affect the rest of the team, but if Crabtree produces, no one will question it. Then again if he doesn't produce, Singletary needs to pull him back.

At this point we can't judge either way. We'll know more on Sunday (if the O-Line and Hill execute) and will continue to learn more with every week. Singletary IS taking a chance by throwing Crabtree into the mix right away, but he obviously thinks it's a risk worth taking. I'd rather have that kind of a coach than one not willing to take a risk when the outcome could help the team. Of course, as I said, whether this risk pays off remains to be seen.

Singletary is a dynamic coach who does things differently than what we're used to seeing from other NFL coaches. He takes some risks and pays for it at times. He's also very new at this and is continuing to learn. And that's what's most important- that he learns from the mistakes he makes. This team is not going to win it all this year (barring something miraculous), so right about now I welcome Singletary's risk-taking and learning.

Up until this last game, as a fan you had to be impressed with the team's (well at least the defense's) new-found inspired play. If we can see more of that along with more maturity and consistent execution, Singletary could be building something special. We definitely have lots of room for improvement in all areas, but let's not be so quick to label a decision bad because we're a long way from knowing how this story will end. I certainly prefer this to a coach who doesn't make adjustments despite obvious flaws. Have a little patience, because Singletary inherited a bad team. Change takes time (whether it be bad team to good team or HOF LB to NFL head coach) and that's whet we've got to give Singletary.

I only have one thing to address in your conundrum.

Braylon Edwards is a 5 year Vet.

Crabs is a Rookie with absolutely ZERO experience at the NFL level.

I mean you might as well have stated something along the lines of...

"Well Brett Favre started for the Vikings without having Camped with them and learned their playbook, so Nate Davis should be starting because he lit up 3rd and 4th teamers in the Preseason and he did go to Camp."

See the inequality here?

Edwards is a PROVEN Receiver who knows how to run NFL routes.

Crabtree has had what 2 weeks of catchup?

~Ceadder

I know we have our disagreements Ceadder but stop making so much sense.

I've always made sense. It may not be what you agree with but it makes sense to those that do agree with it. lol

But I'll try to tone it down so we can have our usual debates.

Originally posted by gravelburn:
At the same time, the guy he is replacing has less than a full season of experience. So maybe the comparison to Edwards isn't accurate, but you should get my point that knowledge of the playbook isn't a complete argument for or against whether Crabtree should be playing. As long as he is prepared for the plays he has to run, there's no reason to keep a valuable weapon on the bench. And whether or not it's a good decision to play him right away cannot be determined as it will be based on how he performs. He does well as Singletary made a great choice, he screws up and the OP's argument has legitimacy. As a Niner fan, there's a lot to worry about right now, but at the same time, we all have to be hoping that some of these questionable decisions and risk taking pay off. Until they don't and the future gets much darker, I still have some faith that there's light at the end of the tunnel.

Sure there is. The guy he's "replacing" has chemistry with Hill. Not alot but it goes back to last season. Crabtree only has chemistry with Smith. Throwing him in there because he's more "talented" and the 1st round pick is only setting the team up for disaster. They'll have dodged a bullet if nothing bad happens. I've never EVER had a problem with putting the best players on the field. I do though if there is no chemistry or experience for any one player to the benefit of the team. Crabtree is Oh-fer in regards to both.

If it works out though, it would be nice.

~Ceadder
[ Edited by Ceadderman on Oct 24, 2009 at 4:30 AM ]
Originally posted by Ceadderman:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Ceadderman:
Originally posted by gravelburn:
The argument that Crabtree shouln't get much time because he doesn't know the playbook is like saying Braylon Edwards should have sat out the first few games with the Jets while he learned their playbook. The fact is you want your best weapons on the field. I can't imagine Crabtree knows the playbook as well as Morgan, but the coaches obviously think that despite his late arrival, he still has some play-making ability that would be a waste if he were to be on the sideline.

Of course Singletary has to worry about how any preferential treatment might affect the rest of the team, but if Crabtree produces, no one will question it. Then again if he doesn't produce, Singletary needs to pull him back.

At this point we can't judge either way. We'll know more on Sunday (if the O-Line and Hill execute) and will continue to learn more with every week. Singletary IS taking a chance by throwing Crabtree into the mix right away, but he obviously thinks it's a risk worth taking. I'd rather have that kind of a coach than one not willing to take a risk when the outcome could help the team. Of course, as I said, whether this risk pays off remains to be seen.

Singletary is a dynamic coach who does things differently than what we're used to seeing from other NFL coaches. He takes some risks and pays for it at times. He's also very new at this and is continuing to learn. And that's what's most important- that he learns from the mistakes he makes. This team is not going to win it all this year (barring something miraculous), so right about now I welcome Singletary's risk-taking and learning.

Up until this last game, as a fan you had to be impressed with the team's (well at least the defense's) new-found inspired play. If we can see more of that along with more maturity and consistent execution, Singletary could be building something special. We definitely have lots of room for improvement in all areas, but let's not be so quick to label a decision bad because we're a long way from knowing how this story will end. I certainly prefer this to a coach who doesn't make adjustments despite obvious flaws. Have a little patience, because Singletary inherited a bad team. Change takes time (whether it be bad team to good team or HOF LB to NFL head coach) and that's whet we've got to give Singletary.

I only have one thing to address in your conundrum.

Braylon Edwards is a 5 year Vet.

Crabs is a Rookie with absolutely ZERO experience at the NFL level.

I mean you might as well have stated something along the lines of...

"Well Brett Favre started for the Vikings without having Camped with them and learned their playbook, so Nate Davis should be starting because he lit up 3rd and 4th teamers in the Preseason and he did go to Camp."

See the inequality here?

Edwards is a PROVEN Receiver who knows how to run NFL routes.

Crabtree has had what 2 weeks of catchup?

~Ceadder

I know we have our disagreements Ceadder but stop making so much sense.

I've always made sense. It may not be what you agree with but it makes sense to those that do agree with it. lol

But I'll try to tone it down so we can have our usual debates.

Originally posted by gravelburn:
At the same time, the guy he is replacing has less than a full season of experience. So maybe the comparison to Edwards isn't accurate, but you should get my point that knowledge of the playbook isn't a complete argument for or against whether Crabtree should be playing. As long as he is prepared for the plays he has to run, there's no reason to keep a valuable weapon on the bench. And whether or not it's a good decision to play him right away cannot be determined as it will be based on how he performs. He does well as Singletary made a great choice, he screws up and the OP's argument has legitimacy. As a Niner fan, there's a lot to worry about right now, but at the same time, we all have to be hoping that some of these questionable decisions and risk taking pay off. Until they don't and the future gets much darker, I still have some faith that there's light at the end of the tunnel.

Sure there is. The guy he's "replacing" has chemistry with Hill. Not alot but it goes back to last season. Crabtree only has chemistry with Smith. Throwing him in there because he's more "talented" and the 1st round pick is only setting the team up for disaster. They'll have dodged a bullet if nothing bad happens. I've never EVER had a problem with putting the best players on the field. I do though if there is no chemistry or experience for any one player to the benefit of the team. Crabtree is Oh-fer in regards to both.

If it works out though, it would be nice.

~Ceadder

Then we agree. It's absolutely a risk, and chemistry (or a lack thereof) is a bigger issue than Crabtree knowing the playbook or not. I just figure Hill's not going Crabtree's way unless the route to be run is obvious and timing isn't quite as big a factor as it might be for other patterns (of course timing is ALWAYS an issue to some extent). With this risk we're essentially weighing potential big plays against potential disaster. Regardless of how this goes, I like Singletary's willingness to take a chance. This offense needs a spark, and maybe Crabtree can be that. If disaster results, then we'll have to deal with that, but I prefer this to the idea of someone with innate talent riding the pine.
Originally posted by ObePwnD:
Originally posted by dust-7:
Originally posted by ObePwnD:
So was it a BIG mistake? No, I don't think so. Every team burns timeouts early that they wish they had back at times.

But not on some 'pep rally', as it's been called by many, at the NFL level. Not for that. BE PREPARED. Come prepared for that opponent, on that day. Bill Walsh thought so. Sing said - he wasn't, and they weren't, for the Falcons. It wasn't a one-off, an 'outlier' , an inexplicable - oops. It was, and I repeat - a FAILURE TO PREPARE FOR THE GAME. All in caps. Coach Sing said that in his very first remarks after the game, placing the emphasis on the failure of the coaching staff, and on himself, before mentioning the sometimes lazy play of a few players. And Sing is a supposed to have been a close friend of Coach Walsh. Perhaps, Coach Sing should have asked Bill a few more questions.

Lack of preparation is not something that happens unexpectedly. It happens over and over again. The 49ers HAVE to beat the Texans on Sunday. We'll have to see a team more like that which went out and beat the Vikes, only to hand it over to them at the end.

Bye week. Atlanta made good use of theirs. Let's see on Sunday. There is NO reason the 49ers cannot beat Houston on their home field!

Dude, it was call a "Pep Rally" by two well known clowns in Niner Talk and you sound just like them. So I don't know where you get this Called by many stuff. Get over the Walsh thing - he's gone and there's only one Walsh. There will NOT be a Walsh second coming. Sing is who we have and so far he's better than the last two idiots we had - are you a fan of theirs?

A lot of teams prepare for teams and miss the mark. Plain and simple, Atlanta is a better team than we are - ever consider that? You and a couple of others here are hell bent on focusing on the negative rather than any positives. Why don't you try supporting your team.

Way to completely avoid responding with substance...
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by ObePwnD:
Originally posted by dust-7:
Originally posted by ObePwnD:
So was it a BIG mistake? No, I don't think so. Every team burns timeouts early that they wish they had back at times.

But not on some 'pep rally', as it's been called by many, at the NFL level. Not for that. BE PREPARED. Come prepared for that opponent, on that day. Bill Walsh thought so. Sing said - he wasn't, and they weren't, for the Falcons. It wasn't a one-off, an 'outlier' , an inexplicable - oops. It was, and I repeat - a FAILURE TO PREPARE FOR THE GAME. All in caps. Coach Sing said that in his very first remarks after the game, placing the emphasis on the failure of the coaching staff, and on himself, before mentioning the sometimes lazy play of a few players. And Sing is a supposed to have been a close friend of Coach Walsh. Perhaps, Coach Sing should have asked Bill a few more questions.

Lack of preparation is not something that happens unexpectedly. It happens over and over again. The 49ers HAVE to beat the Texans on Sunday. We'll have to see a team more like that which went out and beat the Vikes, only to hand it over to them at the end.

Bye week. Atlanta made good use of theirs. Let's see on Sunday. There is NO reason the 49ers cannot beat Houston on their home field!

Dude, it was call a "Pep Rally" by two well known clowns in Niner Talk and you sound just like them. So I don't know where you get this Called by many stuff. Get over the Walsh thing - he's gone and there's only one Walsh. There will NOT be a Walsh second coming. Sing is who we have and so far he's better than the last two idiots we had - are you a fan of theirs?

A lot of teams prepare for teams and miss the mark. Plain and simple, Atlanta is a better team than we are - ever consider that? You and a couple of others here are hell bent on focusing on the negative rather than any positives. Why don't you try supporting your team.

Way to completely avoid responding with substance...

THX WINner.
Taking a time-out on this thread. The personal stuff has gone too far.

If you have questions, PM me. Posting complaints on the board will earn you a warning.

Thanks.
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