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How many of u think nate davis should start next year?

How many of u think nate davis should start next year?

If he gives us the best opportunity to win, why not
ya gotta love Nate the great
Still trying to figure out all this talk about how you can’t under any circumstances throw a rookie QB out there or you’ll ruin him. It’s true that some can’t handle it, maybe Smith was one of them. Maybe Smith just couldn’t ever adapt to the NFL and the starting as a rookie is not the cause. But there are numerous examples folks have already listed, that have done well. Yes some of them had really good O-lines or some other veteran leadership to help them out, but not all of them. The Colts sucked a$$ pretty much all the way around when Manning was drafted. They went 3-13 his rookie year, he was sacked so many times it wasn’t funny, I believe he set some kind of interception record (most, not fewest) that year as well. Yeah, all that definitely ruined him. If only they had let him sit for a couple years he could have been something, earned a few MVP awards, won a Super Bowl or something. But, noooo…they threw him to the wolves and destroyed him.

You want to know where one of Nate’s first college starts were…as a Freshman…in Michigan with somewhere in the ballpark of 100k fans cheering for the other team, against an undefeated Michigan team fighting for the number 1 ranking spot in the nation at the time. He was sacked three times that game. It didn’t even come close to ruining him. Ball State didn’t have an offensive line until his third year. They sure as hell didn’t have a running game until then. His sophomore year, they had so many running back injuries that they had to convert a couple of defensive backs into running backs for some games. Try going 70% and throwing 3 TDs when the other team knows you don’t have a running back. He can handle some adversity.

Don't get me wrong, I think if he starts next year it's because he earned it in competition, but don't just sit the guy because you're afraid it'll ruin him.
[ Edited by mrgneissguy on Oct 23, 2009 at 8:06 AM ]
Originally posted by SF2AZNiner:
I have this wierd feeling he will start this year at some time I don't think Sing is sold on Hill or Smith.

Originally posted by mrgneissguy:
Still trying to figure out all this talk about how you can’t under any circumstances throw a rookie QB out there or you’ll ruin him. It’s true that some can’t handle it, maybe Smith was one of them. Maybe Smith just couldn’t ever adapt to the NFL and the starting as a rookie is not the cause. But there are numerous examples folks have already listed, that have done well. Yes some of them had really good O-lines or some other veteran leadership to help them out, but not all of them. The Colts sucked a$$ pretty much all the way around when Manning was drafted. They went 3-13 his rookie year, he was sacked so many times it wasn’t funny, I believe he set some kind of interception record (most, not fewest) that year as well. Yeah, all that definitely ruined him. If only they had let him sit for a couple years he could have been something, earned a few MVP awards, won a Super Bowl or something. But, noooo…they threw him to the wolves and destroyed him.

You want to know where one of Nate’s first college starts were…as a Freshman…in Michigan with somewhere in the ballpark of 100k fans cheering for the other team, against an undefeated Michigan team fighting for the number 1 ranking spot in the nation at the time. He was sacked three times that game. It didn’t even come close to ruining him. Ball State didn’t have an offensive line until his third year. They sure as hell didn’t have a running game until then. His sophomore year, they had so many running back injuries that they had to convert a couple of defensive backs into running backs for some games. Try going 70% and throwing 3 TDs when the other team knows you don’t have a running back. He can handle some adversity.

Don't get me wrong, I think if he starts next year it's because he earned it in competition, but don't just sit the guy because you're afraid it'll ruin him.

gneiss!
Originally posted by oldninerdude:
Originally posted by mrgneissguy:
Still trying to figure out all this talk about how you can’t under any circumstances throw a rookie QB out there or you’ll ruin him. It’s true that some can’t handle it, maybe Smith was one of them. Maybe Smith just couldn’t ever adapt to the NFL and the starting as a rookie is not the cause. But there are numerous examples folks have already listed, that have done well. Yes some of them had really good O-lines or some other veteran leadership to help them out, but not all of them. The Colts sucked a$$ pretty much all the way around when Manning was drafted. They went 3-13 his rookie year, he was sacked so many times it wasn’t funny, I believe he set some kind of interception record (most, not fewest) that year as well. Yeah, all that definitely ruined him. If only they had let him sit for a couple years he could have been something, earned a few MVP awards, won a Super Bowl or something. But, noooo…they threw him to the wolves and destroyed him.

You want to know where one of Nate’s first college starts were…as a Freshman…in Michigan with somewhere in the ballpark of 100k fans cheering for the other team, against an undefeated Michigan team fighting for the number 1 ranking spot in the nation at the time. He was sacked three times that game. It didn’t even come close to ruining him. Ball State didn’t have an offensive line until his third year. They sure as hell didn’t have a running game until then. His sophomore year, they had so many running back injuries that they had to convert a couple of defensive backs into running backs for some games. Try going 70% and throwing 3 TDs when the other team knows you don’t have a running back. He can handle some adversity.

Don't get me wrong, I think if he starts next year it's because he earned it in competition, but don't just sit the guy because you're afraid it'll ruin him.

gneiss!



I'm not saying anything about Nate Davis because I actually really liked him as a college prospect and I was hoping we'd take a shot on him with one of our picks when he was still around, but Peyton as a rookie had Marshall Faulk and Marvin Harrison.
Him and Crabtree are good friends so I can see that relationship resulting in many touchdowns in the future.
Originally posted by darkknight49:
Originally posted by B650:
He should get a chance to start, but we should draft or trade for another QB as well.

We should definitely give the kid a chance, I like what he brings to the table and more than one so called expert believes he'll eventually develop into a better quarterback than either Stafford or Sanchez. I'd also be in favor of drafting another QB, but not with a high pick. This year has illustrated a couple of things about our roster: 1. We have weaknesses along the DL (no surprise) and 2. We have OL issues (perhaps a surprise). I would be in favor of improving those areas over using a high draft pick on another QB.
Originally posted by midrdan:
Originally posted by darkknight49:
Originally posted by B650:
He should get a chance to start, but we should draft or trade for another QB as well.

We should definitely give the kid a chance, I like what he brings to the table and more than one so called expert believes he'll eventually develop into a better quarterback than either Stafford or Sanchez. I'd also be in favor of drafting another QB, but not with a high pick. This year has illustrated a couple of things about our roster: 1. We have weaknesses along the DL (no surprise) and 2. We have OL issues (perhaps a surprise). I would be in favor of improving those areas over using a high draft pick on another QB.

Definitely need to draft an O-line before we take another QB, especially when we already have Nate whom is just as talented as Sanchez and Stafford IMO.
The only way Davis starts a game this year is if both Hill and Smith suck, if we fall completely apart and fall out of the playoff race or if we make the playoffs and have a meaningless game at the end of the season AND either Hill or Smith is injured. As a Niner fan, I can't hope for ANY of these options. If he has a bright future, hopefully he's forced to prove it in training camp next season.
Originally posted by gravelburn:
The only way Davis starts a game this year is if both Hill and Smith suck, if we fall completely apart and fall out of the playoff race or if we make the playoffs and have a meaningless game at the end of the season AND either Hill or Smith is injured. As a Niner fan, I can't hope for ANY of these options. If he has a bright future, hopefully he's forced to prove it in training camp next season.

Title of the thread is should he start next year. I think he should definitely be part of the competition. I also think he'd beat out Hill and Smith in that competition
This reminds me of 2006, when the Broncos late in the season decided to go with Jay Cutler over Jake Plummer. They were 7 - 4 and probably headed to the playoffs, but decided to go with what was the best option longterm in Cutler.

The difference between the 49ers and those Broncos is that they did not have the stinch of being a loosing franchise for the better part of 10 years. They had been mediocre to good with Plummer as QB, so another playoff run without a Super Bowl berth would have done them no good. The need to go with the guy that gives them the best oportunity to win right now and make the playoffs. Right now, that guy is Shaun Hill. Nate Davis will have an opportunity to compete for a starting spiot next off season.

The only other reasons I am in favor of him starting are if Hill stinks it up and Smith comes in and does the same, we are eliminated from playoff contention, or have clinched a playoff berth and are locked into a particular seed before Week 17.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:
Originally posted by midrdan:
Originally posted by darkknight49:
Originally posted by B650:
He should get a chance to start, but we should draft or trade for another QB as well.

We should definitely give the kid a chance, I like what he brings to the table and more than one so called expert believes he'll eventually develop into a better quarterback than either Stafford or Sanchez. I'd also be in favor of drafting another QB, but not with a high pick. This year has illustrated a couple of things about our roster: 1. We have weaknesses along the DL (no surprise) and 2. We have OL issues (perhaps a surprise). I would be in favor of improving those areas over using a high draft pick on another QB.

Definitely need to draft an O-line before we take another QB, especially when we already have Nate whom is just as talented as Sanchez and Stafford IMO.

I know it was preseason but this kid really had a knack for understanding his role as the QB and looked very comfortable running our offense. From his quick feet, keeping his eyes down field while avoiding pressure, quick release and can't forget about that laser arm.

He captivates what tools and NFL QB should have. Not saying he is going to be great but can't deny what he has that neither QB in front of him has. I know he has this so called learning disability but like Crabs, once you get on the field it is just football and some have a knack better than others. He seems to be a football player and I just look forward for him to get on the field and start throwing to our newly signed franchise WR!!!