Nothing against Hill, he is our best chance at a winning football team in years and doesn't screw up our chances.
It seems however his thinking gets better late in the game perhaps because at the begining at the game he is thinking to much on not screwing it up? Then when he is asked to make actually lead a team with his arm he just does it like what have we got to lose? We're down already chance'um.
Just a thought on why he may be better in the forth. Raye though has gotten to loosen up a little and make it mor 50/50 and not 60/40.
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Shaun Hill is Clutch!!
Oct 9, 2009 at 4:13 PM
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Oct 9, 2009 at 4:23 PM
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Originally posted by redrathman:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by redrathman:
Seriously, guys. Clutch.
Judging by that picture, Shaun Hill would be the flywheel.
But the flywheel was so much easier to Photoshop. Can we pretend people who talk about football on the internet don't know what a clutch looks like for just one thread?
My bad.
Oct 9, 2009 at 4:32 PM
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Clutch is a great band.
Oct 9, 2009 at 4:35 PM
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Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by redrathman:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by redrathman:
Seriously, guys. Clutch.
Judging by that picture, Shaun Hill would be the flywheel.
But the flywheel was so much easier to Photoshop. Can we pretend people who talk about football on the internet don't know what a clutch looks like for just one thread?
My bad.
No wonder the offense is having problems, Raye keeps popping the damn clutch and leaving and the offense stuck in run gear when clearly the clutch is burning, the dude just doesn't know how to shift.
Oct 9, 2009 at 7:16 PM
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Originally posted by WildBill:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by redrathman:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by redrathman:
Seriously, guys. Clutch.
Judging by that picture, Shaun Hill would be the flywheel.
But the flywheel was so much easier to Photoshop. Can we pretend people who talk about football on the internet don't know what a clutch looks like for just one thread?
My bad.
No wonder the offense is having problems, Raye keeps popping the damn clutch and leaving and the offense stuck in run gear when clearly the clutch is burning, the dude just doesn't know how to shift.
I think they like to put it in neutral out of fear of blowing the engine whenever they have a car-legnth lead in the race.
Oct 9, 2009 at 7:53 PM
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Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by 9ermj:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by djfullshred:Originally posted by 9ermj:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by BigDaddy:Originally posted by Memphis9er:
He is not costing us games, what more can you ask for at this point in time? Clutch?
I have seen nothing to make me want to have to count on him to have to win a game. We are a defense first team, so Hill will usually not have to be the one to win the game. As long as the defense keeps it close, we always have a chance. I think that any of our QB's could win with this defense having their back.
Just ran across this on ESPN, Clutch players don't end up on this list...
Overmatched Players...
Have you been watching the games so far? Hill has led needed TD drives this year and even *GASP* passed for a TD. I'd say that's clutch. Who knows how many he might have before the years over. He may even go into the crapper. But he is the answer for now and seems to be making the most of it. We all know why you hate on Hill.
I am happy with the results Hill is putting up, it is all about the W. I just think some of you guys are getting carried away about a mediocre player. It is funny how some posters here are so knee jerk with their opinions about our players. Just because I want our QB to play better, make quicker decisions, not throw into double and triple coverage, and learn how to throw a spiral, it doesn't mean I hate the man. So far it hasn't hurt us, but our schedule gets a lot tougher the next couple of months, and we are going to need better play from the o line and Hill. I think Crabtree will help Hills numbers because he runs the bubble screen so well, and that is the kind of pass that Hill can throw. I don't "hate on" Hill, I don't "hate on" anyone, so please don't "hate on" me.
I'm with you, how can anyone hate having Gomer Pyle for your Qb but just because he's a regular guy doesn't make it ok to ignore that he is throwing into double coverage and he's a weak passer it's a fact doesn't mean you can't like the wins , the most frequent remark is " He hasn't lost us any games" yeah I should hope not, we saw enough of that the last year
Interesting that you guys make an emphasis that he makes bad decisions of throwing into coverage. Accurate QBs throw into coverage, and hit their receivers instead of the defensive players. So far is he has thrown one interception in four games, and that was when Delanie Walker tripped on a deep sideline sprint.
No, Shaun Hill must turn every drive into TD's, like Alex Smith did.
That's ridiculous, you sound like a child, not even I expect him to end every drive with a TD , what do you consider reasonable 50% , 33% , 25% I don't know what percentage of drives have ended in a TD let alone a FG but I bet it's not close to any of these numbers
Oh, so being comfortable with the offense, O-line protection, running the ball when its not working, penalties all fall on a QB?? You act like we run the Run-N-Shoot or something.
And when the O and all it's parts has a successful drive we get threads entitled Shaun Hill is Clutch. Hill apparently is only involved when the team scores. Some of you seem to give him all the credit and none of the blame, that's all I'm saying
Oct 9, 2009 at 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by 9ermj:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by 9ermj:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by djfullshred:Originally posted by 9ermj:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by BigDaddy:Originally posted by Memphis9er:
He is not costing us games, what more can you ask for at this point in time? Clutch?
I have seen nothing to make me want to have to count on him to have to win a game. We are a defense first team, so Hill will usually not have to be the one to win the game. As long as the defense keeps it close, we always have a chance. I think that any of our QB's could win with this defense having their back.
Just ran across this on ESPN, Clutch players don't end up on this list...
Overmatched Players...
Have you been watching the games so far? Hill has led needed TD drives this year and even *GASP* passed for a TD. I'd say that's clutch. Who knows how many he might have before the years over. He may even go into the crapper. But he is the answer for now and seems to be making the most of it. We all know why you hate on Hill.
I am happy with the results Hill is putting up, it is all about the W. I just think some of you guys are getting carried away about a mediocre player. It is funny how some posters here are so knee jerk with their opinions about our players. Just because I want our QB to play better, make quicker decisions, not throw into double and triple coverage, and learn how to throw a spiral, it doesn't mean I hate the man. So far it hasn't hurt us, but our schedule gets a lot tougher the next couple of months, and we are going to need better play from the o line and Hill. I think Crabtree will help Hills numbers because he runs the bubble screen so well, and that is the kind of pass that Hill can throw. I don't "hate on" Hill, I don't "hate on" anyone, so please don't "hate on" me.
I'm with you, how can anyone hate having Gomer Pyle for your Qb but just because he's a regular guy doesn't make it ok to ignore that he is throwing into double coverage and he's a weak passer it's a fact doesn't mean you can't like the wins , the most frequent remark is " He hasn't lost us any games" yeah I should hope not, we saw enough of that the last year
Interesting that you guys make an emphasis that he makes bad decisions of throwing into coverage. Accurate QBs throw into coverage, and hit their receivers instead of the defensive players. So far is he has thrown one interception in four games, and that was when Delanie Walker tripped on a deep sideline sprint.
No, Shaun Hill must turn every drive into TD's, like Alex Smith did.
That's ridiculous, you sound like a child, not even I expect him to end every drive with a TD , what do you consider reasonable 50% , 33% , 25% I don't know what percentage of drives have ended in a TD let alone a FG but I bet it's not close to any of these numbers
Oh, so being comfortable with the offense, O-line protection, running the ball when its not working, penalties all fall on a QB?? You act like we run the Run-N-Shoot or something.
And when the O and all it's parts has a successful drive we get threads entitled Shaun Hill is Clutch. Hill apparently is only involved when the team scores. Some of you seem to give him all the credit and none of the blame, that's all I'm saying
No kidding, someone is being a little hypocritical.
Oct 9, 2009 at 10:33 PM
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maybe s.hill is just good but has to hand off all day long and only when we have to pass does he get to show it and that is in the 2nd half. OPEN IT UP WHILE GORE IS OUT!
Oct 10, 2009 at 12:01 AM
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by 9ermj:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by 9ermj:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by djfullshred:Originally posted by 9ermj:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by BigDaddy:Originally posted by Memphis9er:
He is not costing us games, what more can you ask for at this point in time? Clutch?
I have seen nothing to make me want to have to count on him to have to win a game. We are a defense first team, so Hill will usually not have to be the one to win the game. As long as the defense keeps it close, we always have a chance. I think that any of our QB's could win with this defense having their back.
Just ran across this on ESPN, Clutch players don't end up on this list...
Overmatched Players...
Have you been watching the games so far? Hill has led needed TD drives this year and even *GASP* passed for a TD. I'd say that's clutch. Who knows how many he might have before the years over. He may even go into the crapper. But he is the answer for now and seems to be making the most of it. We all know why you hate on Hill.
I am happy with the results Hill is putting up, it is all about the W. I just think some of you guys are getting carried away about a mediocre player. It is funny how some posters here are so knee jerk with their opinions about our players. Just because I want our QB to play better, make quicker decisions, not throw into double and triple coverage, and learn how to throw a spiral, it doesn't mean I hate the man. So far it hasn't hurt us, but our schedule gets a lot tougher the next couple of months, and we are going to need better play from the o line and Hill. I think Crabtree will help Hills numbers because he runs the bubble screen so well, and that is the kind of pass that Hill can throw. I don't "hate on" Hill, I don't "hate on" anyone, so please don't "hate on" me.
I'm with you, how can anyone hate having Gomer Pyle for your Qb but just because he's a regular guy doesn't make it ok to ignore that he is throwing into double coverage and he's a weak passer it's a fact doesn't mean you can't like the wins , the most frequent remark is " He hasn't lost us any games" yeah I should hope not, we saw enough of that the last year
Interesting that you guys make an emphasis that he makes bad decisions of throwing into coverage. Accurate QBs throw into coverage, and hit their receivers instead of the defensive players. So far is he has thrown one interception in four games, and that was when Delanie Walker tripped on a deep sideline sprint.
No, Shaun Hill must turn every drive into TD's, like Alex Smith did.
That's ridiculous, you sound like a child, not even I expect him to end every drive with a TD , what do you consider reasonable 50% , 33% , 25% I don't know what percentage of drives have ended in a TD let alone a FG but I bet it's not close to any of these numbers
Oh, so being comfortable with the offense, O-line protection, running the ball when its not working, penalties all fall on a QB?? You act like we run the Run-N-Shoot or something.
And when the O and all it's parts has a successful drive we get threads entitled Shaun Hill is Clutch. Hill apparently is only involved when the team scores. Some of you seem to give him all the credit and none of the blame, that's all I'm saying
No kidding, someone is being a little hypocritical.
We all know Hill has weaknesses, and isn't the greatest QB in the NFL by a long shot. But they are 3-1, and one goddamn miracle Brett Farve TD away from being 4-0. So what exactly is there to blame him about? It seems very odd to me after the last several years people looking for someone to blame something on after wins.
One thing for sure is this team now wins as a team. Hill is part of that. He is not just some guy in there doing nothing well while everyone else is winning the game. For sure he is a solid contributer. If you can't see that, your spite has blinded you, or you don't understand what your watching, or you just want to argue for arguing's sake.
Oct 10, 2009 at 1:09 AM
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by 9ermj:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by 9ermj:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by djfullshred:Originally posted by 9ermj:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by BigDaddy:Originally posted by Memphis9er:
He is not costing us games, what more can you ask for at this point in time? Clutch?
I have seen nothing to make me want to have to count on him to have to win a game. We are a defense first team, so Hill will usually not have to be the one to win the game. As long as the defense keeps it close, we always have a chance. I think that any of our QB's could win with this defense having their back.
Just ran across this on ESPN, Clutch players don't end up on this list...
Overmatched Players...
Have you been watching the games so far? Hill has led needed TD drives this year and even *GASP* passed for a TD. I'd say that's clutch. Who knows how many he might have before the years over. He may even go into the crapper. But he is the answer for now and seems to be making the most of it. We all know why you hate on Hill.
I am happy with the results Hill is putting up, it is all about the W. I just think some of you guys are getting carried away about a mediocre player. It is funny how some posters here are so knee jerk with their opinions about our players. Just because I want our QB to play better, make quicker decisions, not throw into double and triple coverage, and learn how to throw a spiral, it doesn't mean I hate the man. So far it hasn't hurt us, but our schedule gets a lot tougher the next couple of months, and we are going to need better play from the o line and Hill. I think Crabtree will help Hills numbers because he runs the bubble screen so well, and that is the kind of pass that Hill can throw. I don't "hate on" Hill, I don't "hate on" anyone, so please don't "hate on" me.
I'm with you, how can anyone hate having Gomer Pyle for your Qb but just because he's a regular guy doesn't make it ok to ignore that he is throwing into double coverage and he's a weak passer it's a fact doesn't mean you can't like the wins , the most frequent remark is " He hasn't lost us any games" yeah I should hope not, we saw enough of that the last year
Interesting that you guys make an emphasis that he makes bad decisions of throwing into coverage. Accurate QBs throw into coverage, and hit their receivers instead of the defensive players. So far is he has thrown one interception in four games, and that was when Delanie Walker tripped on a deep sideline sprint.
No, Shaun Hill must turn every drive into TD's, like Alex Smith did.
That's ridiculous, you sound like a child, not even I expect him to end every drive with a TD , what do you consider reasonable 50% , 33% , 25% I don't know what percentage of drives have ended in a TD let alone a FG but I bet it's not close to any of these numbers
Oh, so being comfortable with the offense, O-line protection, running the ball when its not working, penalties all fall on a QB?? You act like we run the Run-N-Shoot or something.
And when the O and all it's parts has a successful drive we get threads entitled Shaun Hill is Clutch. Hill apparently is only involved when the team scores. Some of you seem to give him all the credit and none of the blame, that's all I'm saying
No kidding, someone is being a little hypocritical.
How is that being hypocritical?? When everyone is doing there job and the only thing that's left is for the QB to do his, Hill comes through. How is that being hypocritical?? What it seems is that people don't give Hill the credit he deserves and only want to see him fail so Alex Smith can step in.
Oct 10, 2009 at 1:25 AM
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
How is that being hypocritical?? When everyone is doing there job and the only thing that's left is for the QB to do his, Hill comes through. How is that being hypocritical?? What it seems is that people don't give Hill the credit he deserves and only want to see him fail so Alex Smith can step in.
Hill could win us a Superbowl and people will still be chirping: "It wasn't Alex Smith who led them so let's just put an asterisk next to that year."
Oct 10, 2009 at 6:49 AM
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Originally posted by TDTomAndo:Originally posted by 49erman5692:
Hill is aweful for a half and amazing for the other sooo.... he is nothing special
But he sure picks the right half to be amazing in.
Agree
Oct 10, 2009 at 7:34 AM
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Originally posted by djfullshred:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by 9ermj:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by 9ermj:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by djfullshred:Originally posted by 9ermj:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by BigDaddy:Originally posted by Memphis9er:
He is not costing us games, what more can you ask for at this point in time? Clutch?
I have seen nothing to make me want to have to count on him to have to win a game. We are a defense first team, so Hill will usually not have to be the one to win the game. As long as the defense keeps it close, we always have a chance. I think that any of our QB's could win with this defense having their back.
Just ran across this on ESPN, Clutch players don't end up on this list...
Overmatched Players...
Have you been watching the games so far? Hill has led needed TD drives this year and even *GASP* passed for a TD. I'd say that's clutch. Who knows how many he might have before the years over. He may even go into the crapper. But he is the answer for now and seems to be making the most of it. We all know why you hate on Hill.
I am happy with the results Hill is putting up, it is all about the W. I just think some of you guys are getting carried away about a mediocre player. It is funny how some posters here are so knee jerk with their opinions about our players. Just because I want our QB to play better, make quicker decisions, not throw into double and triple coverage, and learn how to throw a spiral, it doesn't mean I hate the man. So far it hasn't hurt us, but our schedule gets a lot tougher the next couple of months, and we are going to need better play from the o line and Hill. I think Crabtree will help Hills numbers because he runs the bubble screen so well, and that is the kind of pass that Hill can throw. I don't "hate on" Hill, I don't "hate on" anyone, so please don't "hate on" me.
I'm with you, how can anyone hate having Gomer Pyle for your Qb but just because he's a regular guy doesn't make it ok to ignore that he is throwing into double coverage and he's a weak passer it's a fact doesn't mean you can't like the wins , the most frequent remark is " He hasn't lost us any games" yeah I should hope not, we saw enough of that the last year
Interesting that you guys make an emphasis that he makes bad decisions of throwing into coverage. Accurate QBs throw into coverage, and hit their receivers instead of the defensive players. So far is he has thrown one interception in four games, and that was when Delanie Walker tripped on a deep sideline sprint.
No, Shaun Hill must turn every drive into TD's, like Alex Smith did.
That's ridiculous, you sound like a child, not even I expect him to end every drive with a TD , what do you consider reasonable 50% , 33% , 25% I don't know what percentage of drives have ended in a TD let alone a FG but I bet it's not close to any of these numbers
Oh, so being comfortable with the offense, O-line protection, running the ball when its not working, penalties all fall on a QB?? You act like we run the Run-N-Shoot or something.
And when the O and all it's parts has a successful drive we get threads entitled Shaun Hill is Clutch. Hill apparently is only involved when the team scores. Some of you seem to give him all the credit and none of the blame, that's all I'm saying
No kidding, someone is being a little hypocritical.
We all know Hill has weaknesses, and isn't the greatest QB in the NFL by a long shot. But they are 3-1, and one goddamn miracle Brett Farve TD away from being 4-0. So what exactly is there to blame him about? It seems very odd to me after the last several years people looking for someone to blame something on after wins.
One thing for sure is this team now wins as a team. Hill is part of that. He is not just some guy in there doing nothing well while everyone else is winning the game. For sure he is a solid contributer. If you can't see that, your spite has blinded you, or you don't understand what your watching, or you just want to argue for arguing's sake.
Maybe
Oct 10, 2009 at 7:52 AM
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Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Not on 3rd downs!
Draft McCoy!
Oct 10, 2009 at 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by SnakePlissken:Originally posted by Kolohe:
How is that being hypocritical?? When everyone is doing there job and the only thing that's left is for the QB to do his, Hill comes through. How is that being hypocritical?? What it seems is that people don't give Hill the credit he deserves and only want to see him fail so Alex Smith can step in.
Hill could win us a Superbowl and people will still be chirping: "It wasn't Alex Smith who led them so let's just put an asterisk next to that year."
wow. quoted for truth!