Crabtree Discussion Thread

Originally posted by KNRO1670:

Originally posted by valrod33:
what did deion sanders get arrested for?

I think for walking around with that POON RAT on his chin!

I don't understand what it is with your poon rat obsession. You manage to work it into nearly every post, regardless of relevance or context.

I am intrigued.

Originally posted by showtime49:

Originally posted by KNRO1670:

Originally posted by valrod33:
what did deion sanders get arrested for?

I think for walking around with that POON RAT on his chin!

I don't understand what it is with your poon rat obsession. You manage to work it into nearly every post, regardless of relevance or context.

I am intrigued.

Trying to set a personal record

Still can't wear my jersey!

Gil Bradt wrote in his recent answer to a comment at NFL.com:

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I personally think Crabtreee needs to face reality that he wasnt the first WR picked and hasnt practiced in along time so he should understand the money issue but if he doesnt sign with SF do u think it would be worth it for a team like the Texans to give them a 1st round pick so Andre Johnson can have a partner to dominate?

Gil Brandt, NFL.com
First off, I've told Michael Crabtree myself that he is making a mistake by not signing. Interesting note about receivers -- it's probably the second-hardest to come in and play as a rookie (next to QB). Of the 300 or so rookie WRs in the last 10 years, 10 have caught 50 or more passes as a rookie, 4 had 1,000 yards or more, and only one had 10 or more TDs.

I don't think Crabtree can help any team he signed with at this point. What he has to remember is that his talent is not based on where he is picked.

I cant stand Crabby....what a premadonna

If crab wants to play elsewhere then this is what we should do
1) trade him when trading opens up again-right now it is closed.
2) find out if the team was one of the ones that dione warwick mentioned and file a complaint and get more picks from them.

Sources: Crabtree no closer to ending holdout

A source close to San Francisco 49ers holdout wide receiver Michael Crabtree(notes) said Tuesday that while he disagrees with the idea of Crabtree missing an entire season, “the kid is weird enough that he just might do it.”

The comment comes after NFL Network analyst and former player Deion Sanders said Crabtree, taken 10th in this year’s NFL draft, is willing to remain unsigned because of his desire to paid as much as No. 7 overall pick and fellow wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey(notes). Crabtree believes he would have been a top-five pick if not for a stress fracture in his foot that was discovered at the NFL scouting combine.

Meanwhile, a 49ers source remained upbeat about the chances of Crabtree signing, saying he believed a holdout “defies all logic.”

The team source said the 49ers have offered Crabtree a contract commensurate with the No. 10 overall pick. Crabtree wants a deal equal to the reported five-year, $38.25 million contract Heyward-Bey received. That deal includes $23.5 million guaranteed and also was the cause of conflict in the Cincinnati Bengals’ negotiations with No. 6 overall pick Andre Smith(notes), who joined the team a month after he reported to training camp.

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defies all logic is right.

Originally posted by Esco:
Sources: Crabtree no closer to ending holdout

A source close to San Francisco 49ers holdout wide receiver Michael Crabtree(notes) said Tuesday that while he disagrees with the idea of Crabtree missing an entire season, “the kid is weird enough that he just might do it.”

The comment comes after NFL Network analyst and former player Deion Sanders said Crabtree, taken 10th in this year’s NFL draft, is willing to remain unsigned because of his desire to paid as much as No. 7 overall pick and fellow wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey(notes). Crabtree believes he would have been a top-five pick if not for a stress fracture in his foot that was discovered at the NFL scouting combine.

Meanwhile, a 49ers source remained upbeat about the chances of Crabtree signing, saying he believed a holdout “defies all logic.”

The team source said the 49ers have offered Crabtree a contract commensurate with the No. 10 overall pick. Crabtree wants a deal equal to the reported five-year, $38.25 million contract Heyward-Bey received. That deal includes $23.5 million guaranteed and also was the cause of conflict in the Cincinnati Bengals’ negotiations with No. 6 overall pick Andre Smith(notes), who joined the team a month after he reported to training camp.

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Two things about the article.

First, I find it funny that this person close to Crabtree says his holdout defies logic.
Second, the article states that they know two teams that have told him they would draft him in next years draft. There has to be tampering here!

Both sources believe that Crabtree has been told by other teams that they will take him in the first round of next year’s draft.

[ Edited by dirtysouthniner on Sep 8, 2009 at 13:42:55 ]

Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:

Originally posted by Esco:
Sources: Crabtree no closer to ending holdout

A source close to San Francisco 49ers holdout wide receiver Michael Crabtree(notes) said Tuesday that while he disagrees with the idea of Crabtree missing an entire season, “the kid is weird enough that he just might do it.”

The comment comes after NFL Network analyst and former player Deion Sanders said Crabtree, taken 10th in this year’s NFL draft, is willing to remain unsigned because of his desire to paid as much as No. 7 overall pick and fellow wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey(notes). Crabtree believes he would have been a top-five pick if not for a stress fracture in his foot that was discovered at the NFL scouting combine.

Meanwhile, a 49ers source remained upbeat about the chances of Crabtree signing, saying he believed a holdout “defies all logic.”

The team source said the 49ers have offered Crabtree a contract commensurate with the No. 10 overall pick. Crabtree wants a deal equal to the reported five-year, $38.25 million contract Heyward-Bey received. That deal includes $23.5 million guaranteed and also was the cause of conflict in the Cincinnati Bengals’ negotiations with No. 6 overall pick Andre Smith(notes), who joined the team a month after he reported to training camp.

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Two things about the article.

First, I find it funny that this person close to Crabtree says his holdout defys logic.
Second, the article states that they know two teams that have told him they would draft him in next years draft. There has to be tampering here!

Exactly! I thought tampering was when teams would interfere in some way in negotiations between a player and the team that holds his rights. Would it be unreasonable to say that other teams that essentially told Crabtree: "Hey, don't worry, we'll take you in the first round next year" is tampering?

It gives Crabtree leverage over the Niners...an incentive to hold out. This is ridiculous

Originally posted by Esco:
Sources: Crabtree no closer to ending holdout

A source close to San Francisco 49ers holdout wide receiver Michael Crabtree(notes) said Tuesday that while he disagrees with the idea of Crabtree missing an entire season, “the kid is weird enough that he just might do it.”

The comment comes after NFL Network analyst and former player Deion Sanders said Crabtree, taken 10th in this year’s NFL draft, is willing to remain unsigned because of his desire to paid as much as No. 7 overall pick and fellow wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey(notes). Crabtree believes he would have been a top-five pick if not for a stress fracture in his foot that was discovered at the NFL scouting combine.

Meanwhile, a 49ers source remained upbeat about the chances of Crabtree signing, saying he believed a holdout “defies all logic.”

The team source said the 49ers have offered Crabtree a contract commensurate with the No. 10 overall pick. Crabtree wants a deal equal to the reported five-year, $38.25 million contract Heyward-Bey received. That deal includes $23.5 million guaranteed and also was the cause of conflict in the Cincinnati Bengals’ negotiations with No. 6 overall pick Andre Smith(notes), who joined the team a month after he reported to training camp.

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The article also states that both sides believe other teams have told Crabtree they would select him in the 1st round of next years draft. Smells like tampering to me!

If it walks like a duck.... and quacks like a duck..... chances are..... it's time to launch an investigation!

f**k Crabdouche

The more this BS carries on the more I feel that there is some tampering here with other teams. And I am sure that if fans are thinking this might be the case based on interviews and other facts, I would hope that Goodell is thinking the same thing.

Originally posted by Esco:
Sources: Crabtree no closer to ending holdout

A source close to San Francisco 49ers holdout wide receiver Michael Crabtree(notes) said Tuesday that while he disagrees with the idea of Crabtree missing an entire season, “the kid is weird enough that he just might do it.”

The comment comes after NFL Network analyst and former player Deion Sanders said Crabtree, taken 10th in this year’s NFL draft, is willing to remain unsigned because of his desire to paid as much as No. 7 overall pick and fellow wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey(notes). Crabtree believes he would have been a top-five pick if not for a stress fracture in his foot that was discovered at the NFL scouting combine.

Meanwhile, a 49ers source remained upbeat about the chances of Crabtree signing, saying he believed a holdout “defies all logic.”

The team source said the 49ers have offered Crabtree a contract commensurate with the No. 10 overall pick. Crabtree wants a deal equal to the reported five-year, $38.25 million contract Heyward-Bey received. That deal includes $23.5 million guaranteed and also was the cause of conflict in the Cincinnati Bengals’ negotiations with No. 6 overall pick Andre Smith(notes), who joined the team a month after he reported to training camp.

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I just read the article. And although I try not to get too worked up about what "sources" say, this is just so frustrating. If people close to him are saying the "holdout defies logic", it's very difficult to see this ending with a signing anytime soon.

Originally posted by backontop:
The more this BS carries on the more I feel that there is some tampering here with other teams. And I am sure that if fans are thinking this might be the case based on interviews and other facts, I would hope that Goodell is thinking the same thing.

Based on the NFL.com chat this afternoon I don't think Goodell is thinking about anything other than selling subscriptions to the new RedZone channel.

Further on in the article is says two teams told Crabtree they would take him next year in round 1. Now, I know he's not under contract but I'm 99.9% sure that since we have his rights we therefore have exclusivity in negotiating with the player; thus, we were tampered with and its f'n BS if we don't go after the teams especially after what happened to us with Briggs.

I, however, did draw some positives from the article. Next year's WR class will be better this year's and, moreover, it states that Crabtree is living and working out in the South Bay, leading me to believe that he ultimately will play for the 49ers. I'm guessing we will see no movement until this weekend as he'll holdout as long as possible in a (probably) futile attempt to squeeze more $$$$$ from the FO, before caving in and taking the 16-20$ mil guaranteed.

Besides, if his true desire is cash, then its in his best interests to sign this deal now and have FA come one year quicker. Moreover, there is a precedent to sign our strong-performing young players to long-term and lucrative extensions before their first deals expire--see Gore and Staley. If Crabs is truly as great as he believes/says he is, then he should have no trouble securing a massive extension in few years.