Originally posted by Giant9er:Originally posted by cNiner:
He will start losing Money if he dose not he sign by saturday night ! he is greedy and he is going to lose money and lots of it .
If he doesn't sign at all then how can we fine him.
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Originally posted by Giant9er:Originally posted by cNiner:
He will start losing Money if he dose not he sign by saturday night ! he is greedy and he is going to lose money and lots of it .
Originally posted by KALI-KING:Originally posted by Giant9er:Originally posted by cNiner:
He will start losing Money if he dose not he sign by saturday night ! he is greedy and he is going to lose money and lots of it .
If he doesn't sign at all then how can we fine him.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Trent Dilfer's interview with ESPN radio with Michael Kay, link on the other Crabtree thread:
Dilfer, on Crabtree: "The kid is a really fine athlete. A lot has been made of his holdout, and I agreed early on that I wouldn't get in on all that. That's not my role as an analyst for ESPN. I have a close relationship with the 49ers people, so it just wasn't appropriate for me to get involved in that realm. But I felt I could mentor him, coach him up, help him out, and be a live arm for him to catch some live balls.
I was very impressed. He was in great shape. He works incredibly hard. He's actually in one-on-one time with him a humble kid, he wants to learn and he wants to be great, and that is what struck me after a couple days with him, how great he wants to be, how he approached it, and I was thoroughly impressed in my two day workout with him.
Q: Some have said that he has not been working out due to a football injury. Is it true?
Dilfer: "I can tell you that it isn't true. He's very healthy, he can line up right now and play, so you can take it from me, those rumors are not true."
Q: Is this kid making a smart move? Is there an end game for holding out as long as he has?
Dilfer: "I don't see it. I don't see it this late in the process. I understand holdouts early in the process. I understand their pride is being hurt. I really believe he is much better than the two receivers taken ahead of him. I think the 49ers believe it, that there is no doubt about that. But, I don't know what is going on now. I think he is getting some advice from some people, not real good advice, but I also think he is a very, you know he compartmentalizes things, the kid impresses me because he is very focused, you see him saying, I'm going to focus on getting better, and I'm going to let the people that I hired do the other stuff; he doesn't know the business and he is so locked up is his world of getting better and being prepared, I can see him compartmentalizing this and not seeing the end result of this.
Q: It just seems such a waste. Football players' careers are so short, and to throw a year away is just sad, I hope he comes to an agreement, but I don't know if he will.
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The interview continues with a question about Eric Mangini (this is the same person who accused Michael Crabtree of being a diva, and then passing on him with the 5th overall by trading down). The questioner and Trent Dilfer both proclaim the complete shock over the stupidity of Mangini not naming a starting QB. Interesting transition from the Crabtree conversation.
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In conclusion: I have encouraged the board for weeks now not to make character assassinations on Crabtree, as nobody really knows if he is the "greedy, selfish, evil" person labeled by many on the board. It seems that Trent Dilfer did not get that impression at all after spending two days with the kid. Now, could he have been bluffing? Maybe. However, I think it is premature to blame the kid for the contract negotiation, as many have suggested, and even more foolish and premature to paint him as a bad guy.
I wish him the best on his next franchise.
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Trent Dilfer's interview with ESPN radio with Michael Kay, link on the other Crabtree thread:
Dilfer, on Crabtree: "The kid is a really fine athlete. A lot has been made of his holdout, and I agreed early on that I wouldn't get in on all that. That's not my role as an analyst for ESPN. I have a close relationship with the 49ers people, so it just wasn't appropriate for me to get involved in that realm. But I felt I could mentor him, coach him up, help him out, and be a live arm for him to catch some live balls.
I was very impressed. He was in great shape. He works incredibly hard. He's actually in one-on-one time with him a humble kid, he wants to learn and he wants to be great, and that is what struck me after a couple days with him, how great he wants to be, how he approached it, and I was thoroughly impressed in my two day workout with him.
Q: Some have said that he has not been working out due to a football injury. Is it true?
Dilfer: "I can tell you that it isn't true. He's very healthy, he can line up right now and play, so you can take it from me, those rumors are not true."
Q: Is this kid making a smart move? Is there an end game for holding out as long as he has?
Dilfer: "I don't see it. I don't see it this late in the process. I understand holdouts early in the process. I understand their pride is being hurt. I really believe he is much better than the two receivers taken ahead of him. I think the 49ers believe it, that there is no doubt about that. But, I don't know what is going on now. I think he is getting some advice from some people, not real good advice, but I also think he is a very, you know he compartmentalizes things, the kid impresses me because he is very focused, you see him saying, I'm going to focus on getting better, and I'm going to let the people that I hired do the other stuff; he doesn't know the business and he is so locked up is his world of getting better and being prepared, I can see him compartmentalizing this and not seeing the end result of this.
Q: It just seems such a waste. Football players' careers are so short, and to throw a year away is just sad, I hope he comes to an agreement, but I don't know if he will.
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The interview continues with a question about Eric Mangini (this is the same person who accused Michael Crabtree of being a diva, and then passing on him with the 5th overall by trading down). The questioner and Trent Dilfer both proclaim the complete shock over the stupidity of Mangini not naming a starting QB. Interesting transition from the Crabtree conversation.
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In conclusion: I have encouraged the board for weeks now not to make character assassinations on Crabtree, as nobody really knows if he is the "greedy, selfish, evil" person labeled by many on the board. It seems that Trent Dilfer did not get that impression at all after spending two days with the kid. Now, could he have been bluffing? Maybe. However, I think it is premature to blame the kid for the contract negotiation, as many have suggested, and even more foolish and premature to paint him as a bad guy.
I wish him the best on his next franchise.
Good read. I do have to say that, even if Crabtree is gettin' bad advise, he has to be smart enough to realize by now that their advise is not in HIS best interest. I do think Niners should break the 10th slot and offer him a deal between the 8th and 9th slot and meet him half way. I think this way, both Niners and Crabtree's team can save face. I also think Niners need to include easier to achieve incentives such as a pro-bowl appearance in the 3rd season should trigger a bonus in the 4th year or something like that.
Originally posted by BrianGO:Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Trent Dilfer's interview with ESPN radio with Michael Kay, link on the other Crabtree thread:
Dilfer, on Crabtree: "The kid is a really fine athlete. A lot has been made of his holdout, and I agreed early on that I wouldn't get in on all that. That's not my role as an analyst for ESPN. I have a close relationship with the 49ers people, so it just wasn't appropriate for me to get involved in that realm. But I felt I could mentor him, coach him up, help him out, and be a live arm for him to catch some live balls.
I was very impressed. He was in great shape. He works incredibly hard. He's actually in one-on-one time with him a humble kid, he wants to learn and he wants to be great, and that is what struck me after a couple days with him, how great he wants to be, how he approached it, and I was thoroughly impressed in my two day workout with him.
Q: Some have said that he has not been working out due to a football injury. Is it true?
Dilfer: "I can tell you that it isn't true. He's very healthy, he can line up right now and play, so you can take it from me, those rumors are not true."
Q: Is this kid making a smart move? Is there an end game for holding out as long as he has?
Dilfer: "I don't see it. I don't see it this late in the process. I understand holdouts early in the process. I understand their pride is being hurt. I really believe he is much better than the two receivers taken ahead of him. I think the 49ers believe it, that there is no doubt about that. But, I don't know what is going on now. I think he is getting some advice from some people, not real good advice, but I also think he is a very, you know he compartmentalizes things, the kid impresses me because he is very focused, you see him saying, I'm going to focus on getting better, and I'm going to let the people that I hired do the other stuff; he doesn't know the business and he is so locked up is his world of getting better and being prepared, I can see him compartmentalizing this and not seeing the end result of this.
Q: It just seems such a waste. Football players' careers are so short, and to throw a year away is just sad, I hope he comes to an agreement, but I don't know if he will.
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The interview continues with a question about Eric Mangini (this is the same person who accused Michael Crabtree of being a diva, and then passing on him with the 5th overall by trading down). The questioner and Trent Dilfer both proclaim the complete shock over the stupidity of Mangini not naming a starting QB. Interesting transition from the Crabtree conversation.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In conclusion: I have encouraged the board for weeks now not to make character assassinations on Crabtree, as nobody really knows if he is the "greedy, selfish, evil" person labeled by many on the board. It seems that Trent Dilfer did not get that impression at all after spending two days with the kid. Now, could he have been bluffing? Maybe. However, I think it is premature to blame the kid for the contract negotiation, as many have suggested, and even more foolish and premature to paint him as a bad guy.
I wish him the best on his next franchise.
Good read. I do have to say that, even if Crabtree is gettin' bad advise, he has to be smart enough to realize by now that their advise is not in HIS best interest. I do think Niners should break the 10th slot and offer him a deal between the 8th and 9th slot and meet him half way. I think this way, both Niners and Crabtree's team can save face. I also think Niners need to include easier to achieve incentives such as a pro-bowl appearance in the 3rd season should trigger a bonus in the 4th year or something like that.
If that was the case, he would have signed by now, correct?
Therefore, it is not the case. Therefore, he is not smart. In fact, most likely quite the opposite.
The only people "wishing him well" at this point are, his mother, his advisors, and MadDog.
9 times out of 10, when an NFL player is described as a "good kid," its because they are trying to gloss something over.
All of these players have been described as "good kids":
Terrell Owens
Randy Moss
Michael Vick
Plaxico Burress
O.J. Simpson (also described as a "good husband")
Maurice Clarett
Leonard Little
Chris Henry
Pacman Jones
The list goes on and on...
Most of them are not murderers, some don't break the law, so I guess that makes them "good."
Has Patrick Willis ever been called a "good kid"? Thankfully, not from my recollection. But that is a good thing.
Because if you need to be described as a "good kid," its because that very idea has been COMPROMISED at some point.
Its so obvious that players like Patrick Willis and Frank Gore are "good kids," that they are NEVER called "good kids" in the first place!
Michael Crabtree's a "good kid"?
Good riddance!
Originally posted by RonMexico:Originally posted by KALI-KING:Originally posted by Giant9er:Originally posted by cNiner:
He will start losing Money if he dose not he sign by saturday night ! he is greedy and he is going to lose money and lots of it .
If he doesn't sign at all then how can we fine him.
who said anything about a fine
Originally posted by KALI-KING:Originally posted by RonMexico:Originally posted by KALI-KING:Originally posted by Giant9er:Originally posted by cNiner:
He will start losing Money if he dose not he sign by saturday night ! he is greedy and he is going to lose money and lots of it .
If he doesn't sign at all then how can we fine him.
who said anything about a fine
How does he lose money?
Originally posted by BrianGO:Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Trent Dilfer's interview with ESPN radio with Michael Kay, link on the other Crabtree thread:
Dilfer, on Crabtree: "The kid is a really fine athlete. A lot has been made of his holdout, and I agreed early on that I wouldn't get in on all that. That's not my role as an analyst for ESPN. I have a close relationship with the 49ers people, so it just wasn't appropriate for me to get involved in that realm. But I felt I could mentor him, coach him up, help him out, and be a live arm for him to catch some live balls.
I was very impressed. He was in great shape. He works incredibly hard. He's actually in one-on-one time with him a humble kid, he wants to learn and he wants to be great, and that is what struck me after a couple days with him, how great he wants to be, how he approached it, and I was thoroughly impressed in my two day workout with him.
Q: Some have said that he has not been working out due to a football injury. Is it true?
Dilfer: "I can tell you that it isn't true. He's very healthy, he can line up right now and play, so you can take it from me, those rumors are not true."
Q: Is this kid making a smart move? Is there an end game for holding out as long as he has?
Dilfer: "I don't see it. I don't see it this late in the process. I understand holdouts early in the process. I understand their pride is being hurt. I really believe he is much better than the two receivers taken ahead of him. I think the 49ers believe it, that there is no doubt about that. But, I don't know what is going on now. I think he is getting some advice from some people, not real good advice, but I also think he is a very, you know he compartmentalizes things, the kid impresses me because he is very focused, you see him saying, I'm going to focus on getting better, and I'm going to let the people that I hired do the other stuff; he doesn't know the business and he is so locked up is his world of getting better and being prepared, I can see him compartmentalizing this and not seeing the end result of this.
Q: It just seems such a waste. Football players' careers are so short, and to throw a year away is just sad, I hope he comes to an agreement, but I don't know if he will.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The interview continues with a question about Eric Mangini (this is the same person who accused Michael Crabtree of being a diva, and then passing on him with the 5th overall by trading down). The questioner and Trent Dilfer both proclaim the complete shock over the stupidity of Mangini not naming a starting QB. Interesting transition from the Crabtree conversation.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In conclusion: I have encouraged the board for weeks now not to make character assassinations on Crabtree, as nobody really knows if he is the "greedy, selfish, evil" person labeled by many on the board. It seems that Trent Dilfer did not get that impression at all after spending two days with the kid. Now, could he have been bluffing? Maybe. However, I think it is premature to blame the kid for the contract negotiation, as many have suggested, and even more foolish and premature to paint him as a bad guy.
I wish him the best on his next franchise.
Good read. I do have to say that, even if Crabtree is gettin' bad advise, he has to be smart enough to realize by now that their advise is not in HIS best interest. I do think Niners should break the 10th slot and offer him a deal between the 8th and 9th slot and meet him half way. I think this way, both Niners and Crabtree's team can save face. I also think Niners need to include easier to achieve incentives such as a pro-bowl appearance in the 3rd season should trigger a bonus in the 4th year or something like that.
If that was the case, he would have signed by now, correct?
Therefore, it is not the case. Therefore, he is not smart. In fact, most likely quite the opposite.
The only people "wishing him well" at this point are, his mother, his advisors, and MadDog.
9 times out of 10, when an NFL player is described as a "good kid," its because they are trying to gloss something over.
All of these players have been described as "good kids":
Terrell Owens
Randy Moss
Michael Vick
Plaxico Burress
O.J. Simpson (also described as a "good husband")
Maurice Clarett
Leonard Little
Chris Henry
Pacman Jones
The list goes on and on...
Most of them are not murderers, some don't break the law, so I guess that makes them "good."
Has Patrick Willis ever been called a "good kid"? Thankfully, not from my recollection. But that is a good thing.
Because if you need to be described as a "good kid," its because that very idea has been COMPROMISED at some point.
Its so obvious that players like Patrick Willis and Frank Gore are "good kids," that they are NEVER called "good kids" in the first place!
Michael Crabtree's a "good kid"?
Good riddance!
Originally posted by Mospeed:
Didn't Favre have the Vikings playbook this whole off season? Why would it be far fetched for Crabtree to have the Niners?
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:Originally posted by Mospeed:
Didn't Favre have the Vikings playbook this whole off season? Why would it be far fetched for Crabtree to have the Niners?
Jimmy Raye has said he doesn't allow players to take the playbook off site.
Originally posted by RedWaltz24:Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:Originally posted by Mospeed:
Didn't Favre have the Vikings playbook this whole off season? Why would it be far fetched for Crabtree to have the Niners?
Jimmy Raye has said he doesn't allow players to take the playbook off site.
That doesn't mean it can't be on some secret online web-site. lol j/k
He is probably just learning basic plays, so they could use him in some fashion if he were to sign.
Originally posted by BrianGO:Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Trent Dilfer's interview with ESPN radio with Michael Kay, link on the other Crabtree thread:
Dilfer, on Crabtree: "The kid is a really fine athlete. A lot has been made of his holdout, and I agreed early on that I wouldn't get in on all that. That's not my role as an analyst for ESPN. I have a close relationship with the 49ers people, so it just wasn't appropriate for me to get involved in that realm. But I felt I could mentor him, coach him up, help him out, and be a live arm for him to catch some live balls.
I was very impressed. He was in great shape. He works incredibly hard. He's actually in one-on-one time with him a humble kid, he wants to learn and he wants to be great, and that is what struck me after a couple days with him, how great he wants to be, how he approached it, and I was thoroughly impressed in my two day workout with him.
Q: Some have said that he has not been working out due to a football injury. Is it true?
Dilfer: "I can tell you that it isn't true. He's very healthy, he can line up right now and play, so you can take it from me, those rumors are not true."
Q: Is this kid making a smart move? Is there an end game for holding out as long as he has?
Dilfer: "I don't see it. I don't see it this late in the process. I understand holdouts early in the process. I understand their pride is being hurt. I really believe he is much better than the two receivers taken ahead of him. I think the 49ers believe it, that there is no doubt about that. But, I don't know what is going on now. I think he is getting some advice from some people, not real good advice, but I also think he is a very, you know he compartmentalizes things, the kid impresses me because he is very focused, you see him saying, I'm going to focus on getting better, and I'm going to let the people that I hired do the other stuff; he doesn't know the business and he is so locked up is his world of getting better and being prepared, I can see him compartmentalizing this and not seeing the end result of this.
Q: It just seems such a waste. Football players' careers are so short, and to throw a year away is just sad, I hope he comes to an agreement, but I don't know if he will.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The interview continues with a question about Eric Mangini (this is the same person who accused Michael Crabtree of being a diva, and then passing on him with the 5th overall by trading down). The questioner and Trent Dilfer both proclaim the complete shock over the stupidity of Mangini not naming a starting QB. Interesting transition from the Crabtree conversation.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In conclusion: I have encouraged the board for weeks now not to make character assassinations on Crabtree, as nobody really knows if he is the "greedy, selfish, evil" person labeled by many on the board. It seems that Trent Dilfer did not get that impression at all after spending two days with the kid. Now, could he have been bluffing? Maybe. However, I think it is premature to blame the kid for the contract negotiation, as many have suggested, and even more foolish and premature to paint him as a bad guy.
I wish him the best on his next franchise.
Good read. I do have to say that, even if Crabtree is gettin' bad advise, he has to be smart enough to realize by now that their advise is not in HIS best interest. I do think Niners should break the 10th slot and offer him a deal between the 8th and 9th slot and meet him half way. I think this way, both Niners and Crabtree's team can save face. I also think Niners need to include easier to achieve incentives such as a pro-bowl appearance in the 3rd season should trigger a bonus in the 4th year or something like that.
If that was the case, he would have signed by now, correct?
Therefore, it is not the case. Therefore, he is not smart. In fact, most likely quite the opposite.
The only people "wishing him well" at this point are, his mother, his advisors, and MadDog.
9 times out of 10, when an NFL player is described as a "good kid," its because they are trying to gloss something over.
All of these players have been described as "good kids":
Terrell Owens
Randy Moss
Michael Vick
Plaxico Burress
O.J. Simpson (also described as a "good husband")
Maurice Clarett
Leonard Little
Chris Henry
Pacman Jones
The list goes on and on...
Most of them are not murderers, some don't break the law, so I guess that makes them "good."
Has Patrick Willis ever been called a "good kid"? Thankfully, not from my recollection. But that is a good thing.
Because if you need to be described as a "good kid," its because that very idea has been COMPROMISED at some point.
Its so obvious that players like Patrick Willis and Frank Gore are "good kids," that they are NEVER called "good kids" in the first place!
Michael Crabtree's a "good kid"?
Good riddance!