Originally posted by jays9ers:Originally posted by KRS-1:Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Dude sucks, I've said it before and I will repeat it Dude sucks! Couldn't get it done in Phoenix with Bolden and Fitzgerald, and has failed to develop talent here!
This dude does not suck, he is a great WR's coach. The problem lies with the talent or lack thereof he has been given to work with.
Look at the list...only 2 are still with us the other 3 are either out of the league or desperately trying to make a roster. But Sully is the problem right ?
Should we bring up the list of WR's we brought in via FA ? That list is quite pathetic looking.
Good thing we have had good QB play as well to help get the ball to the WR's...oh wait we haven't.
In Arizona he spent 1 year with Anquan Boldin (rookie season) and Sully was the OC not WR's coach however Boldin did finish with 101 catches for 1300+ yards. Boldin himself credits both Sully for his rookie year, and Sully was very adamant that the Cards draft Boldin despite his 4.7 40 time as he saw something special there.
FTR He never even worked with Fitz in AZ yet you call him a failure for that. Good job knowing what your talking about.
The following have all been PB's under Sully's tutelage : Anthony Miller, Tony Martin, Herman Moore, Germaine Crowell, David Boston and Q.
It's obvious you know nothing about Sully or his credentials and are looking at the results without looking at the variables involved to get those results.
Soo what you're saying is he needs top notch talent to develop a WR?? If you're in the NFL you have talent that many people do not have, and hopefully with the proper conditions and coaching you should be able to succeed. Jason Hill and Josh Morgan have the physical talents to excell, they just arn't. Partially of this is due to Sullivan's greeeat coaching....
No. But expecting him to turn water into wine is asking for a lot. Most Mid to late round WR's don't turn into anything better than a # 3 or 4 wideout at best.
New England and Pittsburgh are both teams that have great success in drafting and developing players and have not developed a single WR into anything better than a 3 or 4 in the same time frame Sully has been with us outside of Santonio Holmes.
It takes more than physical talent alone to excel. Go look around the league at WR's drafted since 2005 and see how many have had 1000 yard seasons or close to it....the answer is three : Brandon Marshall, Steve Breaston & Marques Colston. Not one other WR taken from the 3rd round on has even sniffed 1000 yards. That's 3 out of close to 100 WR's. The rest are a bunch of 3's and 4's.
Since 2005 we took 1 WR on the first day....Michael Crabtree. Since 2005 all these WR's were first day picks :
Reggie Brown (has since fallen off but has sniffed 1000 yards)
Maybe instead of blaming Sully you should focus your blame on the 49ers scouts and GM for not investing high picks on a skill position that has been so thin for us until this year.