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Originally posted by linkboy:
Just throwing this out, but Smith had first and goal from the 3 in the Broncos game and scored a TD.
Hill had first and goal from the 4 and could only get a FG.
Originally posted by rob28:
and thats what smith has done the last 5 years, fail lol
Originally posted by strickac:
Hill has proven to be a solid game manager. He plays similar to Pennington. He's not going to beat you with the deep ball, but he's accurate underneath and makes great decision. Hill's decision-making is far superior to Smith's, at this point in his career.
Smith has the physical tools, but he's always failed to translate them to the field on Sundays. He's been given every opportunity to prove he's capable of leading this team, yet he continually fails/unable to take advantage of it.
I just hope that the team hurries and gives Hill their support, putting this "competition" to rest. Everyone knows that the job is Hill's to lose, yet they say it's an even race because they want to protect Alex's feelings and allow him to feel like he genuinely has a chance. The sooner we declare Hill the starter, the better the team will be. Every opportunity that Smith receives with the 1st-team offense is one less snap Hill receives, which we can't really afford, IMO.
Originally posted by strickac:Originally posted by linkboy:
Just throwing this out, but Smith had first and goal from the 3 in the Broncos game and scored a TD.
Hill had first and goal from the 4 and could only get a FG.
Denver also gave Smith a free-be and he came close to blowing it.
Originally posted by aacadena:Originally posted by niner4life21:Originally posted by aacadena:Originally posted by rob28:
and one bad preaseason game doesnt change the fact that hill has been our only efficent qb. 7-3 as a starter, saved us from 2 win seasons the last 2 years.
7-3 against nobodies. His only win over a Winning team came against the Bucs and that's cuz they rested their starters in the second half.
please excuse the terrible typing.
Stop bringing up the " he played against nobodies" arguement. This is the NFL, and wins are hard to come by, no matter who you are and who you play. The only good teams I saw Smith beat was Denver in 2006 and Seattle twice. Hill beat the Jets last season and the Skins.... So that makes it Smith's 3 to Hill's 2....and Smith has played what.....22 more games?
Then Stop bringing up the 7-3. If he so good why is he in a QB Comp for the starting posistion. The Jets imploded by the time we played them and The Skins weren't going to the playoffs. But Smith Did beat a Denver team who was going to go the playoffs if they beat us and guess where they ended up?
Originally posted by linkboy:Originally posted by strickac:
Hill has proven to be a solid game manager. He plays similar to Pennington. He's not going to beat you with the deep ball, but he's accurate underneath and makes great decision. Hill's decision-making is far superior to Smith's, at this point in his career.
Smith has the physical tools, but he's always failed to translate them to the field on Sundays. He's been given every opportunity to prove he's capable of leading this team, yet he continually fails/unable to take advantage of it.
I just hope that the team hurries and gives Hill their support, putting this "competition" to rest. Everyone knows that the job is Hill's to lose, yet they say it's an even race because they want to protect Alex's feelings and allow him to feel like he genuinely has a chance. The sooner we declare Hill the starter, the better the team will be. Every opportunity that Smith receives with the 1st-team offense is one less snap Hill receives, which we can't really afford, IMO.
If Hill plays like he did last night in the regular season, he's not going to last long. He was terrible (his one good drive was handing off to Coffee and he failed to score a TD with first and goal).
People keep saying that Smith hasn't done anything to take the job from Hill, but IMO, Hill hasn't really done anything to deserve it. He had a perfect opportunity last night and screwed it up. Hell, even scoring a TD on that drive would have cemented the job for him.
What's going to happen when in the regular season he starts facing defense's that aren't as vanilla as they are in the regular season. I don't give a damn about how he played in 07 or 08, I'm focusing on what he's doing now. If he keeps up what he's doing now, we're going to have Derek Anderson on our hands.
Originally posted by strickac:Originally posted by linkboy:
Just throwing this out, but Smith had first and goal from the 3 in the Broncos game and scored a TD.
Hill had first and goal from the 4 and could only get a FG.
Denver also gave Smith a free-be and he came close to blowing it.
What if scenario, he scored. Don't care if he almost screwed it up or not, he still got it.
Hill had 3 plays from the same distance and only came away with 3 points.
I'll take a QB almost blowing a Td then having 3 plays and failing.
Originally posted by linkboy:Originally posted by strickac:
Hill has proven to be a solid game manager. He plays similar to Pennington. He's not going to beat you with the deep ball, but he's accurate underneath and makes great decision. Hill's decision-making is far superior to Smith's, at this point in his career.
Smith has the physical tools, but he's always failed to translate them to the field on Sundays. He's been given every opportunity to prove he's capable of leading this team, yet he continually fails/unable to take advantage of it.
I just hope that the team hurries and gives Hill their support, putting this "competition" to rest. Everyone knows that the job is Hill's to lose, yet they say it's an even race because they want to protect Alex's feelings and allow him to feel like he genuinely has a chance. The sooner we declare Hill the starter, the better the team will be. Every opportunity that Smith receives with the 1st-team offense is one less snap Hill receives, which we can't really afford, IMO.
If Hill plays like he did last night in the regular season, he's not going to last long. He was terrible (his one good drive was handing off to Coffee and he failed to score a TD with first and goal).
People keep saying that Smith hasn't done anything to take the job from Hill, but IMO, Hill hasn't really done anything to deserve it. He had a perfect opportunity last night and screwed it up. Hell, even scoring a TD on that drive would have cemented the job for him.
What's going to happen when in the regular season he starts facing defense's that aren't as vanilla as they are in the regular season. I don't give a damn about how he played in 07 or 08, I'm focusing on what he's doing now. If he keeps up what he's doing now, we're going to have Derek Anderson on our hands.
Originally posted by strickac:Originally posted by linkboy:
Just throwing this out, but Smith had first and goal from the 3 in the Broncos game and scored a TD.
Hill had first and goal from the 4 and could only get a FG.
Denver also gave Smith a free-be and he came close to blowing it.
What if scenario, he scored. Don't care if he almost screwed it up or not, he still got it.
Hill had 3 plays from the same distance and only came away with 3 points.
I'll take a QB almost blowing a Td then having 3 plays and failing.
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Hill got one opportunity to throw on that series in the redzone.....the other two were runs.... just saying....
Originally posted by niner4life21:Originally posted by aacadena:Originally posted by niner4life21:Originally posted by aacadena:Originally posted by rob28:
and one bad preaseason game doesnt change the fact that hill has been our only efficent qb. 7-3 as a starter, saved us from 2 win seasons the last 2 years.
7-3 against nobodies. His only win over a Winning team came against the Bucs and that's cuz they rested their starters in the second half.
please excuse the terrible typing.
Stop bringing up the " he played against nobodies" arguement. This is the NFL, and wins are hard to come by, no matter who you are and who you play. The only good teams I saw Smith beat was Denver in 2006 and Seattle twice. Hill beat the Jets last season and the Skins.... So that makes it Smith's 3 to Hill's 2....and Smith has played what.....22 more games?
Then Stop bringing up the 7-3. If he so good why is he in a QB Comp for the starting posistion. The Jets imploded by the time we played them and The Skins weren't going to the playoffs. But Smith Did beat a Denver team who was going to go the playoffs if they beat us and guess where they ended up?
Why is the 7-3 arguement invalid? It shows that he has won 70 percent of his games, as opposed to Smith's 11-21......Don't give a damn about who played who, cuz this is the NFL. And how can you say that the Skins games doesn't mean anything since they couldn't make it to the playoffs? You don't think those guys were trying to win the f**king game, the same way we were? You're really gonna base your arguement off of one game in 2006 in which Smith beat Denver, with his best play being a dump off to Moran Norris for a TD?
And the reason that Hill is in the competetion for the starting position is because Smith was a number 1 overall pick. Teams don't just give up on a player after 4 years, and neither have I, but I seriously doubt that he can be something in this league.
Originally posted by linkboy:Originally posted by niner4life21:
Hill got one opportunity to throw on that series in the redzone.....the other two were runs.... just saying....
Both QBs had one throw on their respective series, one scored a TD, one didn't.
Originally posted by BobS:
I think both Qbs looked mediocre at best. I am afraid we need an upgrade in that area to even contend for a playoff spot unless 9-7 can win the division again. Jeff Garcia looked better than Hill and Smith. Running game looked great but that was against Oakland.
